How did Christians justify slavery?

Started by Bicnarok6 pages

Originally posted by frankenfeltch
That's what it was.

The problem with organized religion, including christianity, is a group of elders can sit around and justify anything they'd like meanwhile convincing their followers that said issue is justifiable.

Wrong!

People nowadays can read the bible for themselves and see what is wrong, no matter what the elders say.

Ok in the past before Martin Luther translated it, the Catholic church didn´t let anyone read the bible except some priest, so they could "Hide" the parts which might go against their power mongering.

And all this talking in Latin as if its some magical language when the Bible was written in Hebrew, Greek and Armiac

Originally posted by Nellinator
What slavery are we talking about? American slavery was opposed by the Catholic Church and many Protestant denominations. There was no official theology supporting it.

You are joking right? Surely you don't believe folks in Europe did not own slaves.

The only period you could possibly reference here is before the middle of the 19th century. I just went through a British literature course and there were plenty of slaves scattered everywhere. I can cite literature if need be to prove the point.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
They don´t need to, as no TRUE Christian would participate in such cruelty.

This begs the question, "Who Is a Christian?"

The British were not Catholic. The Catholics were very adamant about the ONE church thing. They directly opposed the slavery associated with colonialism because of their theology on all people being free to belong to the Church. Many Protestant denominations followed suit. I'm not sure about the Anglican church.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
They don´t need to, as no TRUE Christian would participate in such cruelty.

I don't believe there is such a thing as a True Christian.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe there is such a thing as a True Christian.

All true muslims are at Mosque on Friday mornings

therefore: It is ok to kill people on Friday mornings, because any Muslims you hit aren't REAL Muslims, else they would be at Mosque.

I think it is very dangerous to say who is a real whatever and who is not.

Originally posted by inimalist
All true muslims are at Mosque on Friday mornings

therefore: It is ok to kill people on Friday mornings, because any Muslims you hit aren't REAL Muslims, else they would be at Mosque.

I think it is very dangerous to say who is a real whatever and who is not.

I agree...

Also, it seems that the people who talk about True Christians, make the assumption that they are one on the true Christians. You know what they say about assumptions?

The Catholics were very adamant about the ONE church thing. They directly opposed the slavery associated with colonialism because of their theology on all people being free to belong to the Church.
guess the Spanish and Portuguese explorers, colonisations and conquistadors missed that part then.........

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I agree...

Also, it seems that the people who talk about True Christians, make the assumption that they are one on the true Christians. You know what they say about assumptions?

Hey, when you know 100% that God agrees with you.....

sigh

I forget the quote, but I know it is something like "do not pray that God is on our side, but that we are on God's side". I've always liked the sentiment.

Re: How did Christians justify slavery?

Originally posted by Master-Borg
This has prob been asked, but I'm too lazy to search for it.

During the 1800's the Southern slavers attempted to justify slavery by arguing that Blacks were descended from Cain, and their skin was darkened by all their inherited sins. And therefore deserved slavery.

Re: Re: How did Christians justify slavery?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
During the 1800's the Southern slavers attempted to justify slavery by arguing that Blacks were descended from Cain, and their skin was darkened by all their inherited sins. And therefore deserved slavery.

And they were good and true Christians. 🙁

They bended it to suit their agenda.

As do all humankind....

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
They bended it to suit their agenda.

There is no bending this:

Originally posted by Storm

When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property.
- Exod. 21:20-21 -

Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be blasphemed. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful to them on the ground that they are members of the church; rather they must serve them all the more, since those who benefit by their service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these duties. Whoever teaches otherwise and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that is in accordance with godliness, is conceited, understanding nothing, and has a morbid craving for controversy and for disputes about words. From these come envy, dissension, slander, base suspicions, and wrangling among those who are depraved in mind and bereft of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
- 1 Tim. 6:1-5 -

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, in singleness of heart, as you obey Christ; not only while being watched, and in order to please them, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.
- Eph. 6:5-6 -

Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior.
- Titus 2:9-10 -

Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. For it is a credit to you if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, what credit is that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God's approval.
- 1 Pet. 2:18-29 -

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
There is no bending this:

There's no bending those, but the crap about Black people was entirely pulled out of someone's ass on the spot to justify slavery.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
There's no bending those, but the crap about Black people was entirely pulled out of someone's ass on the spot to justify slavery.

B-but they used science to prove that white people were better.

Psuedoscience =/= Science

Racism is a fairly new thing. It was introduced as a means of separating those who were white and poor/slaves and those who were black slaves. They are meant to keep one another from creating an alliance and rebelling against masters/owners.

Kristianz did it for the lulz. lulz. lulz. lulz.

How did Christians justify slavery? Because we all must serve master Jesus?
😕

Originally posted by Bicnarok

People nowadays can read the bible for themselves and see what is wrong, no matter what the elders say.

Yeah and that's why no churches are separate in how they understand the Bib... oh yea wait...

There's "reading" and then there is "reading comprehension." Different people can get whatever they want from text.