Elder God vs. Sephiroth

100x more skilled? is that so, ive seen no skill from sephiroth beyond something i can do, show me Sephiroths skill...

yes it does, Loz is sephiroths speed....so if he is sephiroths speed, sephiorth is as fast as his speed.....so he is as fast as loz

he is more powerful..yeh..so...their his respresentatives, but Sephiroth is equel to each piece, he is as fast as Loz for example

Hmm lets see, Cloud pwned Kadaj pretty easily, Sephiroth was pwning Cloud without even breaking a sweat.

No, thats a fail, then Cloud wouldnt have been able to punk 2 of them, then own the other one.. Sephiroth is many many times more superior then all 3 of them together.

No Kain pushed about half of it in, something probably Tifa can do, Chaos Vincent would probably split the rock in half, Sephiroth would probably blow it into bits.

lol so if u had Sephiroths speed and strength, u would be able to block, counter, and parry Genesis' attacks? I dont think so.

he is more powerful..yeh..so...their his respresentatives, but Sephiroth is equel to each piece, he is as fast as Loz for example

It was the only way the creators felt Sephiroth could lose, because there was no way Sephiroth could lose at 100%.

Originally posted by Furion
You can do the stuff Seph does?!?! 😆 😆 You can fly? you can launch Cloud through a building 50 feet away in midair? You can summon tainted lifestream with a handmotion that will cover an entire city? You can cut through metal like a hot knife through butter? Doubt it.

but seriously, this kain vs seph thing is becoming boring..
it has come down to me and BT debating why kain should win, terry debating back and furion making random and sometimes pointless comments on the side...it seems thats neither can sway the other, and since it has dragged across 2 or 3 threads, lets just drop it 😬

Originally posted by Furion
You can do the stuff Seph does?!?! 😆 😆 You can fly? you can launch Cloud through a building 50 feet away in midair? You can summon tainted lifestream with a handmotion that will cover an entire city? You can cut through metal like a hot knife through butter? Doubt it.
Saying Sephiroth is not smart is like saying Kain would lose to Mario. Just cause he's crazy doesn't mean he's not smart.
I pwn the crap out of glyph knights with Kain's claws. didn't take that long. SOLDIERs are more agile, faster, stronger, smarter, better swordplay and have their own special abilities.
Sephiroth had direct control over Cloud's mind at certain points in FF7. Seph tried to have Cloud killed Aeris but Cloud resisted Seph. If someone tries hard enough, they will resist and push out Marcus since these are not mere people.

no your missed the point, i meant i can do the sword skills Sephiroth does, their pathetic and low grade

thats because kains strength is incredible, picking up a normal knight with one arm would be difficult and prob impossible for a human but you can see how much bigger a glyph knight is, he is enormous

Originally posted by Terryc250
Hmm lets see, Cloud pwned Kadaj pretty easily, Sephiroth was pwning Cloud without even breaking a sweat.

No, thats a fail, then Cloud wouldnt have been able to punk 2 of them, then own the other one.. Sephiroth is many many times more superior then all 3 of them together.

No Kain pushed about half of it in, something probably Tifa can do, Chaos Vincent would probably split the rock in half, Sephiroth would probably blow it into bits.

lol so if u had Sephiroths speed and strength, u would be able to block, counter, and parry Genesis' attacks? I dont think so.

haha if that was true then 2 of them should be able to own Cloud easily, but could they? No.

It was the only way the creators felt Sephiroth could lose, because there was no way Sephiroth could lose at 100%.

that happens in most sephiroth fights, Sephiroth is winning, not pwning, pwning is winning easily, but not rly, Cloud was losing footing but not too much, but then Cloud gets angry and beats Sephiroth before Sephiroth can get serious, Cloud beats him

according to what? superior in magic, overall power, but not the aspects they resperesent, not without a sephiroth video showing this, otherwise then its jsut your assumption

a lot of his blade went through through the rock without trying, how would sephiroth blow the rock to bits? thats a ridiculous thing to say, with his sword? ....lmao..its a thing little sword, id be surprised if it could blow anything to bits, the soul reaver would blow the rock to bits because it expodes on hit, but FF weapons, unlikely, their all thin blades apart from maybe clouds

sure, why not? if i had his speed and strength, i know all the moves Sephiroth displays and more, i would prob disarm Genisis in the process if i had sephiroths speed and strength

well if that was true Sephiroth would of owned cloud, but did he? no...he got owned....also 2 of them is not sephiroths full self, also how is it if Sephiroth loses its CIS but not when those 2 lose? is that not a plot advancing event? hell nooezz!! its sephiroth he can beat anyone if he triez!!oneeon1111!!

no, no wai.....lol

Originally posted by Burning thought
[B]no your missed the point, i meant i can do the sword skills Sephiroth does, their pathetic and low grade

thats because kains strength is incredible, picking up a normal knight with one arm would be difficult and prob impossible for a human but you can see how much bigger a glyph knight is, he is enormous

you mean this?

zomg ubeR str3ngth f34t!!!!11!

that happens in most sephiroth fights, Sephiroth is winning, not pwning, pwning is winning easily, but not rly, Cloud was losing footing but not too much, but then Cloud gets angry and beats Sephiroth before Sephiroth can get serious, Cloud beats him

according to what? superior in magic, overall power, but not the aspects they resperesent, not without a sephiroth video showing this, otherwise then its jsut your assumption

a lot of his blade went through through the rock without trying, how would sephiroth blow the rock to bits? thats a ridiculous thing to say, with his sword? ....lmao..its a thing little sword, id be surprised if it could blow anything to bits, the soul reaver would blow the rock to bits because it expodes on hit, but FF weapons, unlikely, their all thin blades apart from maybe clouds

sure, why not? if i had his speed and strength, i know all the moves Sephiroth displays and more, i would prob disarm Genisis in the process if i had sephiroths speed and strength

well if that was true Sephiroth would of owned cloud, but did he? no...he got owned....also 2 of them is not sephiroths full self, also how is it if Sephiroth loses its CIS but not when those 2 lose? is that not a plot advancing event? hell nooezz!! its sephiroth he can beat anyone if he triez!!oneeon1111!!

Originally posted by Terryc250
no you cant.

you mean this?

zomg ubeR str3ngth f34t!!!!11!

Sephiroth was beating Cloud effortlessly, while chatting to him, and even had the chance to kill him right on the spot, but decided to stab him in the arm for enjoyment.

Sephiroth doesnt use magic in AC, does that mean hes bad at magic? No it means he doesnt need to, Sephiroth doesnt show his speed, so does that mean hes slow? No it means he doesnt need to.. simple common sense tells you that he is stronger in every way then weak remnants of himself, because as a whole all 3 of them still dont match up to Sephiroth.

a thing little sword? It cuts through anything, he even cuts through large columns of buildings effortlessly with enough force to enflame it.

No you wouldnt, thats foolish, just because Sephiroth makes it look easy, doesnt mean it is easy, Genesis would tear you apart, you dont have the reaction time, nor skills to fight Genesis even if u had greater speed and strength.

Did you even watch the fight? Sephiroth did not get owned, Cloud was getting owned bad.. Cloud was owning both of them, then he pretty much owned Kadaj hard, Sephiroth without any effort at all was owning Cloud and wouldve beat Cloud but let Cloud live, so Sephiroth while toying > Cloud.. then weak remnants of Sephiroth will lose to Cloud even if they are trying their best, which proves that Sephiroth is many more times superior then the remnants.

id be surprised if anyone cannot do those low grade slashes and verticle cuts, a child playing pirates prob could.

thats a sarafan guard.....you faiailurree

yeh and hes a fool, Sephiroth largest downfalls are his pride, kain would not do such foolish and dumb acts, well he would but kain is on a league above sephiroth, he can afford to do that sort of thing, sephiroth can die and be would fall like a leaf in the wind to kain

oh okie, kain doesnt use his godlike unvierse reality warping power on a whim in the games either then, you see he can, but he doesnt need to....durlaugh

yeh same with kain, he can actually go light speed when he walks normally and when he runs he could beat silver surfer in a race....but he doesnt try ya see...he doesnt need to

your humiliating yourself

his sword is a thin ridiculous thing, kains sword is designed in a serpentine fashion, its thick and the soul reaver explodes what it touches, the masurmane is pathetic, and thats the base sword stats of the reaver, when empowered with time, a slash of the thing slows enemies in time....dont even try and fight sword to sword with kain, Sephiroth may as well stay at range or flee to save his own skin

i would, none of those showed any skill, Genesis showed an interesting spinning move which would prob unbalance me, but nothing sephiroth showed me is impressive at all, if i had equel stats as sephiroth id prob disarm him before he had a chance, the guys a joke in sword play, hes just quick

Sephiroth was toying, then got owned, he was useless, he started getting omnislashed, that move is slow as hell and he didnt even move....then hes kapuut, thats more proof against sephiroths speed, dont say "CIS!! he was toying!!" rubbish, the guy was getting pwned and hes not shown any speed feats either so we dont know how quick he can go, obviously by that he cannot escape omnislash

that was plot induced stupidity. With as fast as he was going through out the whole match. he should have easily avoided that. That whole cloud victory was BS

you could never fight two people at once with one arm with little effort. Neither could Kain to enemies of that caliber in a tradional swordfight, no magic. Sephiroth did.

Originally posted by Burning thought
id be surprised if anyone cannot do those low grade slashes and verticle cuts, a child playing pirates prob could.

thats a sarafan guard.....you faiailurree

yeh and hes a fool, Sephiroth largest downfalls are his pride, kain would not do such foolish and dumb acts, well he would but kain is on a league above sephiroth, he can afford to do that sort of thing, sephiroth can die and be would fall like a leaf in the wind to kain

oh okie, kain doesnt use his godlike unvierse reality warping power on a whim in the games either then, you see he can, but he doesnt need to....durlaugh

yeh same with kain, he can actually go light speed when he walks normally and when he runs he could beat silver surfer in a race....but he doesnt try ya see...he doesnt need to

your humiliating yourself

his sword is a thin ridiculous thing, kains sword is designed in a serpentine fashion, its thick and the soul reaver explodes what it touches, the masurmane is pathetic, and thats the base sword stats of the reaver, when empowered with time, a slash of the thing slows enemies in time....dont even try and fight sword to sword with kain, Sephiroth may as well stay at range or flee to save his own skin

i would, none of those showed any skill, Genesis showed an interesting spinning move which would prob unbalance me, but nothing sephiroth showed me is impressive at all, if i had equel stats as sephiroth id prob disarm him before he had a chance, the guys a joke in sword play, hes just quick

Sephiroth was toying, then got owned, he was useless, he started getting omnislashed, that move is slow as hell and he didnt even move....then hes kapuut, thats more proof against sephiroths speed, dont say "CIS!! he was toying!!" rubbish, the guy was getting pwned and hes not shown any speed feats either so we dont know how quick he can go, obviously by that he cannot escape omnislash

Low grade slashes? HAHA ur hilarious, can you show me Kains high class slashes plz?

So show me this pic you said u saw of him lifting a glyph knight, oh you cant? You faaaailureee

Its called PIS, he needed to be like that in order for the plot so that Cloud can win, hes not like that with anyone else.

Kain has no reality warping powers u idiot, never once showed he had any, no i dont "see he can".

plz show me any sign of him able to go at that speed, oh you cant? Fail.

And u say im humiliating myself? HAHA

What does the width of Sephiroths sword have to do with anything? It cuts through anything. Sephiroth chops Kain up in less then a second.

Sephiroth was shown to go intangeble in FFVII, he shouldve been able to escape omnislash, but i guess PIS works in miraculous ways, it was PIS and he was toying, an 5 year old can tell you that, ur intelligence sure amazes me.

Originally posted by Terryc250
So show me this pic you said u saw of him lifting a glyph knight, oh you cant? You faaaailureee

Originally posted by Terryc250
Its called PIS, he needed to be like that in order for the plot so that Cloud can win, hes not like that with anyone else.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Kain has no reality warping powers u idiot, never once showed he had any, no i dont "see he can".

Originally posted by Terryc250
And u say im humiliating myself? HAHA

Originally posted by Terryc250
What does the width of Sephiroths sword have to do with anything? It cuts through anything. Sephiroth chops Kain up in less then a second.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sephiroth was shown to go intangeble in FFVII, he shouldve been able to escape omnislash, but i guess PIS works in miraculous ways, it was PIS and he was toying, an 5 year old can tell you that, ur intelligence sure amazes me.

Originally posted by MadMel

maybe you should actually play the game first 😬

Maybe you should shut up, Kain never picked up a glymph knight with one hand.

[quote]
bulshit, he did it with gen and angeal..

indeed you are...if seph was as overhyped as your making him, he would become and omniverse level threat and could destroy planets by waving his finger 😬

unless kain puts up his instant indestructable shield, protecting him for 30 seconds...definatly enough time to use his time reaver spell..or maybe he can sit there and juggle his sword for 25 seconds then slow time 😬

please, seph was scared sh*tless of cloud the second cloud did his victory "wave his sword around his head"..
if i recall correctly (which is unlikely considering the time its been since ive played FF7) wasnt the seph who was phasing through floors just an image, while the real seph was in the northern crater? [/B]

No, he was just like wtf.

in FFVII Sephiroth was in the northern cave, using Jenovas powers to do all of that, AC Sephiroth has all of Jenovas powers and more.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Maybe you should shut up, Kain never picked up a glymph knight with one hand.

Originally posted by Terryc250
and he was owning them.

Originally posted by Terryc250
I'm not overhyping Sephiroth, i'm stating facts, ur just too blind by ur fanboyism that you can only say crap like "well kain can just reform blah blah" but you dont realize that Sephiroth isnt just going to stand there and let him reform..

Originally posted by Terryc250
why do you guys keep saying stupid things like that? Show me proof that his shield is physically indestructable plz, Sephiroth is much faster then Kain, he chops his reaver out of his hand, then tosses it in a lake and laughs

Originally posted by Terryc250
No, he was just like wtf.

in FFVII Sephiroth was in the northern cave, using Jenovas powers to do all of that, AC Sephiroth has all of Jenovas powers and more.

I lol at you for saying two 1st class SOLDIERs are inexperienced.
Seph wasn't in fear, he was stunned by Cloud going from getting his ass kicked to
finishing Seph.

if he was "stunned", he would have recovered..
and yes, compared to kain's 10000+ years of expereince, these guys look silly..

from what i've seen of Kain "10000 years of experiece" SOLDIER's match Kain if not outright beat him in terms of swordplay and fighting.
no he wouldn't because Cloud did it 1 sec later.

still enough time for the uber speed sephiroth!!!1121

Originally posted by MadMel
prove it..

no, he knew exactly what was going on, and yet he didnt do anything...someone like seph wouldnt be mildly suprised and not move out of the way of cloud's attack..he was pralized with fear (if its possible to be paralized in midair 😛)

Kain has "1,000 years of experience", but what does he show of it? His swordskills are sub-par, he doesn't show any advanced knowledge, he seems to be cunning and sophistocated in speech and manner, but in combat he's just a guy that swings a sword like a maniac.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kain has "1,000 years of experience", but what does he show of it? His swordskills are sub-par, he doesn't show any advanced knowledge, he seems to be cunning and sophistocated in speech and manner, but in combat he's just a guy that swings a sword like a maniac.

when it comes down to pure fight, no magic, no mist, just a fight with swords and skillz, Kain loses hard against SOLDIERs

we can only speculate, as we have never seen kains real sword skills..