Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Huuurh. Your statements have no backing. Either put up or shut up about the blood pressure/weight claims. (Just because you said that it was impossible doesn't mean that it is.)
oh this is rich. first you ask for evidence. then since you dont like the evidence, you ask evidence to validate the evidence i provided. then u wont like that either and ask for evidence of the evidence of thevidence provided to validate it. this shall continue{as it has in the past} forver until u decide to reasonably obscure the argument enough to claim victory or change topic or just try to invalidate one link in the argument chain with psuedoevidence.
srry, your ignorance on the subject is not my problem, search around a little for articles concerning the impossibility of the nephilim physique, ull find quite a few.
^oh no, the only thing turning to douche here is your brain and reasoning, which is leaking out into your eyes from your optic nerve and making you see everything as douche. the only douche here is your initial mode of argumentation, but i suppose being the self righteous douche you are, you wont even notice it and go on your merry little douche way and be happy in your douchy little way.
awww, flies really LOVE you.
actually the whole thing went down like this:
Zead: Fine. Provide evidence that the Nephilim couldn't exist.
Leon: i already did, impossibility of bone structure to withstand the forces, blood pressure being too high lower down for blood vessels to work properly, host of other problems which i dont need to go into right now, no fossile records, no documented history. etc etc
Zead: You didn't prove anything. You made a claim--"It's impossible!" Please provide support for this statement aside from the fact that you said it.
leon can't produce a source or evidence for his stupid claims ?
that's new....
when confronted with fact leon just ignores it and repeats his OPINIONS as fact
i really could care less about if Nephilim exist
i was just pointing out how leon claims everything and supports nothing
you're a smart guy Digi you must have seen in the link i already gave and also this one
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9520636&highlight=multiverse+userid%3A46345#post9520636
leons repeatedly claims he countered all the official sources provided by numerous posters but all he does is state his OPINION
he thinks his OPINION >>>>>>>>>>>> fact
such a person should be banned from debating altogether because they are too obtuse and conceited to be bothered with
Originally posted by 123KID
i really could care less about if Nephilim exist
i was just pointing out how leon claims everything and supports nothing
you're a smart guy Digi you must have seen in the link i alread ygave and also this one
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=9525860&highlight=megaverse+userid%3A46345#post9525860leons repeatedly claims he countered all the official sources provided by numerous posters but all he does is state his OPINION
he thinks his OPINION >>>>>>>>>>>> fact
such a person should be banned from debating altogether because they are too obtuse and conceited to be bothered with
Banning people from debating on KMC would be almost akin to banning them from talking. We can't police debating tactics, and everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion (right or wrong, supported or unsupported).
So if you want to point out flaws in a person's argument in whatever thread it's in, go right ahead. But this is dangerously close to bashing leon because it's clearly not pertinent to the topic, and goes beyond debate into personal attacks.
...beyond that, I can't really see the point of this whole nephilim thing. Personally, I'd be shocked if there was proof that they can't exist, because it would mean there's a need for proof beyond simply "Nephilim giants?! Bwahaha! Next question please."
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Personally, I'd be shocked if there was proof that they can't exist, because it would mean there's a need for proof beyond simply "Nephilim giants?! Bwahaha! Next question please."
There is evidence actually.
The square vs cube law (or something like that). As a creature gets larger its mass increases cubicly but the area of it's muscles and the surface area of the lungs increase by squares. Because of that there is a theoretical upper limit (which I do not recall off hand) to how large a creature can grow on Earth. Eventually it's mass will not only prevent it from moving but prevent it from breathing.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
^oh no, the only thing turning to douche here is your brain and reasoning, which is leaking out into your eyes from your optic nerve and making you see everything as douche. the only douche here is your initial mode of argumentation, but i suppose being the self righteous douche you are, you wont even notice it and go on your merry little douche way and be happy in your douchy little way.awww, flies really LOVE you.
You fail, you ****ing failing failure.
^oh wow, frustrated people are bashing me!!!! yayyyy. its like the tabloids, the only reason people bash you is because youve gotten large and significant enough to make them insecure 😛 . well in answer to your questions you poor babies, i already provided the examples of giantism in humans and the numerous problems they had to go through and early deaths as a result. the nephilim were bigger than these humans by a longshot and wud suffer much worse syptoms. the length to volume ratio of things does NOT icrease proportionally. that is the reason you can not use the same materials and design to create a 50 foot house as you can a 20 foot high house. there was a time a few years ago when i was very interested in the mythoology concerning the nephilim and the enoch gospels. i read many articles on the subject and a lot of them had experts pointing out that such creatures are not pheaseable in the human form or with human tissue as the bones would break very quickly or be damaged under their own weight or the wieght of the body. plus a host of other problems. im sorry for not being a little errand boy and diggin up such things every time sum1 asks for pfficial evidence because they are too in denial to understand the logic behind what i have already explained and infcat will not listen to the evidence when i give the link like everytime before. also, isnt the LACK OF fossil evidence official. or are you trying to make me find evidence for to back up NEGETIVE EVIDENCE? wouldnt that be a fallacy of considering negetive evidence as evidence?? think people think! and really, you want evidence for normal human blood vessels being unsuited for for having that much blood pressure. ok then, even with people{with asthma etc} having a slightly bigger heart than usual or bad enough smokers, the cappilaries in the areas of the feat etc, which expirience the highest pressure start to burst and you can see that as black vein type patterns showing up on the legs and feat. among other things, try just standing still standing straight for half and hour and your feat will be on fire soon enough, unless you keep your lower leg muscles contracting and force out the blood, the height will make the blood collect and increase the pressure on your feat.
oh no wait, i know zeal's reply already "YOU ****IN FAIL YOU FICKIN FAILURE HAHAHAHA!!!!" 😄
1. You never said anything about "giantism," unless you're that chickenlover fellow (which I wouldn't doubt, in a way). I also already addressed this issue.
2. I am fully capable of understanding the idea of surface area to volume ratio problem, as I have studied cellular biology.
3. I don't care if you read all these ARTICLES WITH EXPERTS. Find some credible source on the Internet to link to or STFU.
4. NEGATIVE EVIDENCE LULZ. I never asked you to find evidence, or are you making the logical fallacy of a straw man argument? (Again, it's not like the Nephilim were OMG EVERYWHERE...good grief.)
5. Again, please remember that the Nephilim would have had bodies suited for their size...unlike a smoker or someone with asthma.
In summation:
HAHAHAHAHA, YOU ****ING FAIL, YOU ****ING FAILING FAILURE MADE OF FAIL.
1. You never said anything about "giantism," unless you're that chickenlover fellow (which I wouldn't doubt, in a way). I also already addressed this issue.
i didnt use the TERM giantism{as others had already} but i clearly did mention abnormally large growth and the tons of problems that come with it with usual early death
2. I am fully capable of understanding the idea of surface area to volume ratio problem, as I have studied cellular biology.
then why do you not consider it as evidence?
3. I don't care if you read all these ARTICLES WITH EXPERTS. Find some credible source on the Internet to link to or STFU.
oh i see whta you did there 😄
4. NEGATIVE EVIDENCE LULZ. I never asked you to find evidence, or are you making the logical fallacy of a straw man argument? (Again, it's not like the Nephilim were OMG EVERYWHERE...good grief.)
i was merely commenting on the paradox of trying to find links that mention the LACK o existance of fossil evidence{which u considered a baseless claim not qualifying as evidence}
5. Again, please remember that the Nephilim would have had bodies suited for their size...unlike a smoker or someone with asthma.
In summation:HAHAHAHAHA, YOU ****ING FAIL, YOU ****ING FAILING FAILURE MADE OF FAIL.
oh ok i admit, i fail , i ****IN FAIL. im a worthless ****ing failure!!!!!!!!!!
cry crybaby bawling hangbawling
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i didnt use the TERM giantism{as others had already} but i clearly did mention abnormally large growth and the tons of problems that come with it with usual early death
then why do you not consider it as evidence?
oh i see whta you did there 😄
i was merely commenting on the paradox of trying to find links that mention the LACK o existance of fossil evidence{which u considered a baseless claim not qualifying as evidence}
yes but that is a rationalisation. there is no evidence to suggest it. with that line of unfalsifyiable logic, you can prove anything. reasoneably, it is thought that in humanistic configuration, such creature's bones wud break down. do remember that for the bones to be thick enough to handle the wieght o the body and other bones properly in a human being taller than one or two stories, they wud have to be so abnormally thick tha the body would not really resemble a human configuration anymore. just saying.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
...Gigantopithecus blacki. Gigantopithecus blacki. Gigantopithecus blacki.