"Evolving" Robots Challenge Evolution

Started by leonheartmm13 pages

^ erm, u DO know that im a very anti organised relegion{i.e. christianity n stuff} right?

anyway ur welcome 🙂

Yes, I do. The only DVD having anything to do with Christianity is the "John Ankerberg Show Debate: Young-Earth vs. Old Earth," but even in that, the debate covers scientific issues--the big bang theory for example. In my opinion, even an atheist would enjoy watching it. There is talk about theology and so forth, but the debate keeps in line with science for the most part. "Journey towards Creation" is about the big bang theory. The others cover physics and molecular biology, not Christianity (or any religion for the matter).

As a matter of fact leonheartmm, send me an e-mail message containing your mailing address--could also be your work address--and I will mail you a copy of anyone of the DVD videos you'd like. But I will not have the time to do this until after Christmas and New Years; you could bet on mid-January. And did you have any DVD material to recommend?

canty say really. i dont get much of my info from those kinda dvds. and i have screwed up 32 kbps{which only delivers 4 kbps in reality} dialup connection so such videos will take absolute ages to open or download.

although i have seen a lot of such debates on tv on different channels. and most of the time either the relegious side turns to logical fallacies or wild and unwarranted interpretations of selective scriptures to reconcile the position of relegion with that of science.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
canty say really. i dont get much of my info from those kinda dvds. and i have screwed up 32 kbps{which only delivers 4 kbps in reality} dialup connection so such videos will take absolute ages to open or download.

although i have seen a lot of such debates on tv on different channels. and most of the time either the relegious side turns to logical fallacies or wild and unwarranted interpretations of selective scriptures to reconcile the position of relegion with that of science.

dude u still have dialup? jesus christ man. maybe its time for an upgrade. cable isnt really expensive ne more ne ways. like 20 $ a month. i recommend time warner or comcast

actually i wanted a broadband which didnt have a download limit, otherwise, its useless{everything or nuthig kinda thing} cause im an anime addict. but that one is 1mbp/s and costs like 5000 rupeas{around 70 dollars } per month. and that is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy TOOO expensive for me and my parents wud never agree. so im stuck with dialup for now.{n all the other here are like 256-500 kbps with a 4 gb download limit which kinda sucks for me}

Originally posted by leonheartmm

canty say really. i dont get much of my info from those kinda dvds. and i have screwed up 32 kbps{which only delivers 4 kbps in reality} dialup connection so such videos will take absolute ages to open or download.

although i have seen a lot of such debates on tv on different channels. and most of the time either the relegious side turns to logical fallacies or wild and unwarranted interpretations of selective scriptures to reconcile the position of relegion with that of science.

Fair enough. If you are open to further discussion, please provide an example. I'm not doubting that people carelessly misrepresent biblical scripture to support an ideal, specifically in science; but you must refrain from sterotyping, not that you do. Other people within the Christian community are not bent on deception and fashion objective views--just fair and balanced inquiry. Hugh Ross, an Astronomer, who created the "Reasons to Believe" institute, is one of many examples. His website contains over a hundred articles categorized in organized fashion. And all articles contained therein have corresponding bibliographies; for an idea of what I preach, read the article, "The Big Bang - The Bible Taught It First." URL: www.reasons.org/resources/fff/2000issue03/index.shtml#big_bang_the_bible_taught_it_first.

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I read the article, "The Information Challenge" authored by Richard Dawkins; I enjoyed the article, but it lacked persuasive power in my view. And, I do not mean that in a condescending way. In retrospect, I thought the article was shortsighted, not to mention over-simplified. Richard Dawkins is a genius, and I am incapable of refuting his article word-for-word; but I did find a response to his article authored by Casey Luskin entitled, "A Response to Dr. Dawkins' 'The Information Challenge.'" Please, extend the same courtesy and read his response. URL: http://www.discovery.org/a/4278.

^ no i do not stereotype. there are many good people who follow organised relegion, but generally organised relegion is a negetive force.

what i was talking about though, was not necessarily people who follow it, but the ideology itself, in most of the probable and viable interpretations of christianity/judaism/islam/hinduism etc u find much which has no logical bases and which is very negetive for the individual and the society.

Elaborate please.

sigh, i do not wanna start another huge debate which starts from square one. look at sum of the other threads here.

No problem; but did you have DVD recommendations regarding topics that I mentioned?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
canty say really. i dont get much of my info from those kinda dvds. and i have screwed up 32 kbps{which only delivers 4 kbps in reality} dialup connection so such videos will take absolute ages to open or download.

although i have seen a lot of such debates on tv on different channels. and most of the time either the relegious side turns to logical fallacies or wild and unwarranted interpretations of selective scriptures to reconcile the position of relegion with that of science.

where do you live. no offense i thought rupees was a the currency of zelda games. here in the states high speed internet like cable is around like 20 $ a month and it usually downloads a file at around 650 kb/s. no download limit usually.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
where do you live. no offense i thought rupees was a the currency of zelda games. here in the states high speed internet like cable is around like 20 $ a month and it usually downloads a file at around 650 kb/s. no download limit usually.

LOL!!!! Dude...you live a sheltered video game life.

is that Kb/s or KB/s? One is kilobits and one is kilobytes...a difference of a factor of 8.

Also, the US is hardly on par with the rest of the modern world as far as average download rates go....http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/07/AR2006110701230.html

Rupees...he speaks urdu..hmm...that's easy, he is in Pakistan or India...you should know something like that off the top of your head and if you don't know that, you should look it up because I am sure I am right....just saying, bro.

Originally posted by dadudemon
LOL!!!! Dude...you live a sheltered video game life.

is that Kb/s or KB/s? One is kilobits and one is kilobytes...a difference of a factor of 8.

Also, the US is hardly on par with the rest of the modern world as far as average download rates go....http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/07/AR2006110701230.html

Rupees...he speaks urdu..hmm...that's easy, he is in Pakistan or India...you should know something like that off the top of your head and if you don't know that, you should look it up because I am sure I am right....just saying, bro.

well how would i know. im sorry dude, but im 15. how would i have ne clue of what the currency of a middle eastern country is?

and i meant KB/s i think

Originally posted by dadudemon
LOL!!!! Dude...you live a sheltered video game life.

is that Kb/s or KB/s? One is kilobits and one is kilobytes...a difference of a factor of 8.

Also, the US is hardly on par with the rest of the modern world as far as average download rates go....http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/07/AR2006110701230.html

Rupees...he speaks urdu..hmm...that's easy, he is in Pakistan or India...you should know something like that off the top of your head and if you don't know that, you should look it up because I am sure I am right....just saying, bro.

pakistan. n i was talking about bIts.

Hehe. Like I said in the other thread (where you, mercifully, haven't attempted to pull me into a debate yet) I haven't the time currently to offer a full rebuttal. I will though, when time allows.

Though it is important to note that Professor Dawkins refuses to "debate" creationists/ID'ists for the reason that it seems to put them on a level playing field with evolution. There isn't a debate among anyone versed in the field (and unswayed by religious tendencies), but debating creationists makes it seem like they are on equal footing with one another, as if there's actually something to debate.

So I'm thrilled that I'll get to respond to that man's article regarding the Information Challenge (which was only written because Dawkins was tricked and wanted to clear his name...not because he had any actual desire to debate with them). Because for me to respond will be far less dignified that if Dawkins were to respond to it (which I assure you he never will) because it would lend credibility to the argument based solely on the opponent, not its content.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
well how would i know. im sorry dude, but im 15. how would i have ne clue of what the currency of a middle eastern country is?

and i meant KB/s i think

Being 15 is not really an excuse.

I learned that stuff in middle school in like the 5th or 6th grade. You should pay attention in school and learn how to use an internet search engine so that you don't come off so ignorant to a foreigner.

I'm just trying to help you be a better poster, that's all.

and it isnt a middle easter country, its a central/southern asian one.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and it isnt a middle easter country, its a central/southern asian one.

LOL!!! I missed that commenting on that.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Being 15 is not really an excuse.

I learned that stuff in middle school in like the 5th or 6th grade. You should pay attention in school and learn how to use an internet search engine so that you don't come off so ignorant to a foreigner.

I'm just trying to help you be a better poster, that's all.

sorry, but public schools here do not focus on foreign countries much man. and it really is an excuse to be 15, at least in LA it is. and even when we learn about other countries we usually dont learn their currency. try coming here and watch the teachers. every teacher here pretty much fails. dont be suprised when you find out most people have F's or D's. all im saying is honestly, how the **** would i know what kind of currency they use in pakistan. we havent studied that country for a millisecond