Originally posted by ultimatethor
Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.The silver surfer and thanos alone would stand a good chance against a regualr JLA squad let alone with Doc strange. Superman can be taken out in the first second of the fight by either SS or Thanos via transmutation, or enrgy absorbtion. Silver surfer is more than strong enough to withstand any mental attack from MM( Moondragon with mind gem ring a bell?). Thanos can practically one shot wonderwoman and it would not take much to put down wonderwoman. Better yet surfer could easily encase her in an unbreakble ethel enrgy shell. Aside flash SS is by far the fastest in the field so he would have no problems taking out Superman and WW really quickly. Flash might be fast but he is not immune to a mind rape from thanos or Doc strange who by the way would be protected by SS in an enrgy bubble. With strange protected the JLA are dead. Thanos can take Hal jordan MM and Zatana at the same time while Doc strange and WWH take out firestorm.
The JLA have way too many weak links that can be taken out in the first second or two by either SS or Thanos while the Marvel team have only one person that can be taken outimmediately that is strange however surfer is fast enough to provide adequate protection for strange from a superblitz by the flash. Team way easy
Some of the things you say are just unbeleivably and amazingly illogical.
some of things you say are not well thought out. thanos can one shot wonder woman? since when is he getting past her shield? superman taken out in the first second? hmm, by whom? silver surfer never operates that way in comics. dr. strange would be protected by an energy bubble? before flash dumbs silver surfer in the speed force with no return?
the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues. and you mentioned moondragon like she's got an impressive resume. get back to me when she has done something of note.
zatanna can block the magic of uber magical users. mxy or circe come to mind. so her blocking strange would be nothing but childs play.
i could come up with a thousand ways the jla beats these guys.
Originally posted by The Illuminati
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Team 1 FTW and yes I can explain myself later if I see a credible way someone can devise a plan to win it for JLA.
"the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues."
Yeah that would be the day.. lol 😆
but i do believe if we are talking every member of the JLA THe ateam loses but after a great fight and leaving most JLA ppl dead. If its say the top 7. Team 1 wins.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Team 1 FTW and yes I can explain myself later if I see a credible way someone can devise a plan to win it for JLA."the entire jla can all be mind linked by martian manhunter, protected with gl shields, and amped with flash speed before the marvel team blinks thanks to flash's god like speed. it's far far beyond anything the surfer or anyone on the field has. as a matter of fact, surfer and dr. strange are taken out as thier kinetic energy is taken and they are left as statues."
Yeah that would be the day.. lol 😆
but i do believe if we are talking every member of the JLA THe ateam loses but after a great fight and leaving most JLA ppl dead. If its say the top 7. Team 1 wins.
seven jler's held off a quantum. the entire team 1 doesn't compare. and you act as if what i said was out landish. i only took thinks that are already common practice in the jla and fused them into one strategy.
Yeah true but like you said the fusing of the tactics could be used but not as you would say normal operation. I doubt that the 2 GL can protect all their friends from the powers of any single one on team one. Surfer Blast, Thanos power, WWH punch, w/e strange can do is powerful enough to threaten the intergrity of a personal forcefield much less the rign energy divided among multiple people.
Strage will not be harmed by anything flash does (maybe imp punch might shock strange) mainly due to auto sheilds. I hear auto sheild operates independently from Strange meaning that Strange doesn't even have to know whats is going on for his sheilds to come up and protect him. Oh yeah i guess flash can make the speed force but I don't think strange would have a problem getting himself or people out of that realm or w/e you want to call it.
By the way fangirl why do we seem to disagree on almost everything 😆 Ahh well always a pleasure.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
Yeah true but like you said the fusing of the tactics could be used but not as you would say normal operation. I doubt that the 2 GL can protect all their friends from the powers of any single one on team one. Surfer Blast, Thanos power, WWH punch, w/e strange can do is powerful enough to threaten the intergrity of a personal forcefield much less the rign energy divided among multiple people.Strage will not be harmed by anything flash does (maybe imp punch might shock strange) mainly due to auto sheilds. I hear auto sheild operates independently from Strange meaning that Strange doesn't even have to know whats is going on for his sheilds to come up and protect him. Oh yeah i guess flash can make the speed force but I don't think strange would have a problem getting himself or people out of that realm or w/e you want to call it.
By the way fangirl why do we seem to disagree on almost everything 😆 Ahh well always a pleasure.
I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over.
Originally posted by fangirl101WW Hulk has smashed teams on his own. Thanos slugs it out with Odin oneshots top tiers. You neednt ask about Doctor Strange as I am sure you are aware of some of the insane feats he has accomplished. The Surfer defeats Superman as he exposes his weakness.
and with no scenerio or battle story, we take you word for it based upon what exactly? that big thanos picture in your lil box?
Originally posted by fangirl101Supes was dealt with while doing no damage whatsoever. I m didnt want to hurt him so he easily took him out of the fight. Now someone like Gog made the Im back down and leave the battlefield. Thats impressive not what Superman did. 😉
I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over.
Thanos has forcefields that keep him safe from the Flashes.
Originally posted by quanchi112
WW Hulk has smashed teams on his own. Thanos slugs it out with Odin oneshots top tiers. You neednt ask about Doctor Strange as I am sure you are aware of some of the insane feats he has accomplished. The Surfer defeats Superman as he exposes his weakness.
dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again.
Originally posted by fangirl101
I don't know. but to be honest, wwh, and surfer are inconsequential in this fight. surfer can be taken out by a high end magic user or by two gl's or held off by firestorm until superman ko's him. if superman can make the infinity man rethink his position, i'm betting he can crack surfer's hid. at least knock him out. dr. strange and thanos are the threats. but dr. strange would have to battle martian manhunters tp, zatana's magic, and magicaly charged fist from captain marvel. just too many ways for the jla to win. thanos is dumped into the speed force like superboy prime was. fight over.
Can i use the cross over event between marvel and DC. When Jyle was taking on SS (think it was kyle) and Kyle is like We got to do this man and SS is like yeah i know but I don't want to. GL charges him. Next panel The GL defeated with SS seemingly suffering from no damage. Before i screw myself someone confirm that, i think that happened. Hal and John are going to have to much much much more powerful then Kyle and know they are better GL then them but enough to beat surfer I'm not sure. Firestorm is rookie compared to the matter/energy manipulation experience that SS has. SS can also use his speed to knock out firestormas soon as he tries anything.
Originally posted by fangirl101Strange wont be depowered easily by her. Nope. He trumps her with feats as well. The rest is how you played this out in your mind which I dont even have to respond to.
dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again.
Originally posted by fangirl101
dr. strange is depowerd by zatanna. wwh is turned into banner by wonder woman's lasso command. surfer is too busy fighting captain marvel who has no weakness, firestorm, and two green lanterns and martian manhunter. he dies. thanos is speed force dumped or hit by flash a million times with imps. or he's turned into a statue as his kinetic energy is drained. fight over. game.set.match. fangirl101 does it again.
calm yourself for your victory chants are unwarranted lol sorry i wanted to say that.
In my opinion Strange and far and above the magic users of the JLA. Maybe greater then all of them combined.
ITs gonna take some time for Hulk to turn to banner he has to relax its not a command. If hulk gets pissed enough about the lasso the mantal properties of the lasso will have a hard to commanding him to do anything. Then again maybe not im not sure but either way it will take time to do w/e you think WW is gonna do to hulk and teammates wont stand by and let WW do her thing anyway.
Originally posted by Lord Feron
calm yourself for your victory chants are unwarranted lol sorry i wanted to say that.In my opinion Strange and far and above the magic users of the JLA. Maybe greater then all of them combined.
ITs gonna take some time for Hulk to turn to banner he has to relax its not a command. If hulk gets pissed enough about the lasso the mantal properties of the lasso will have a hard to commanding him to do anything. Then again maybe not im not sure but either way it will take time to do w/e you think WW is gonna do to hulk and teammates wont stand by and let WW do her thing anyway.
wonder woman is fast enough on her own to lasso the hulk. once lassoed, can be commanded to simply not move for eternity. zatanna's spells can sap any magic user of thier will or ability to cast spells. it's worked on circe and mr. myxplyx. as for your other comment, surfer can't beat hal and jon and firestorm. firestorm alone would test surfer's power. firestorm is the better matter manipulator in my opinion. oh and despero was once on the jla as well when he was lron. he could take out wwh, surfer and strange with one psy blast. too many ways for the jla to win.