Terry Bogard vs. Kyo Kusanagi (with a twist)

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Sado22 Restricted

What makes you think Frank Yagami was the only one to say that? Besides, I don't give a darn about what that idiot fanboy says. The thing is, I don't see how MVC2 can be more fun than NGBC other than the fact that you got screen filling supers (like it's DBZ or something), three characters on a team, and 56 characters to choose from. But if we're talking gameplay, then no way. Spamming the crazy VP combo, Magneto's high punch, or Captain Commando's overpowered combos is is too much for me to consider it more fun than NGBC, where EACH character have their ups and downs.

Damn straight. screw what frank says cuz he knows next to nothing anyway. how can people even go by his reviews when he's such a blatantly open fanboy and admits it too. some of the biggest hissy fits thrown by him against capcom is if an SF game gets canceled. 😬
not to mention that he calls bloody roar fans stupid for liking animals fighting but has no problems with vampires and werewolves and redriding hoood (for f--ck's sake!) fighting each other. THAT is fanboyism to shameful levels. and did i mention he gave something as balanced, innovative and legendary as Tekken3 9/10. it's a damn shame.

Yeah. And?

what do you mean "and"? they were made by the same guy. you gonna call Frank Miller's version of Catwoman and Elektra ripoffs of eachother now as well or what?

John is a white military dude w/blond hair IIRC & so is Guile. I'm pretty sure about Sakura(hate both of them bit<hes anyway. Sakura more), but I challenge you to explain how Gouki is a rip off of Takuma. Seriously.

so now having the same hair color is ripping off someone? 😬
throw a party then cuz Ryo has a different hair color than ryu. 😄
john has different clothes, different moves, has a totally different personality, is a bad guy and his finishers are also totally different. hence.....NOT a ripoff.

Takuma and akuma.
happens to be the grand master of the art.
has the same moves but faster and stronger
has serious side to him which he doesn't show in fights since he's too powerful.
Oh and he came before akuma too.
coaxes the hero into doing the art's strongest finisher while akuma goes on trying to convince ryu to go dark hadou.

category. Pay attention.

revenge? they had that with Dan. inspiration is another story. pay attention yourself.

I find that very hard to believe, but then again, I haven't left the U.S. Still, SF is iconic all over the world whereas KOF ain't. & SF rules the U.S. Whereas KOF don't. Nice change of subject too mane We were talking about NGBC & MVC2 weren't we? KOF wasn't part of the equation

YOU said:
My local arcade don't even have NGBC anymore (sad, cuz I didn't have enough time w/it) but they got like 2 or 3 MVC2s.

i just prooved i could always go by that logic and say that KOF is more popular.

~Sado

brainchild81 Privateer

Nah you didn't. Read what I said about KOF.

OMG WTF!? Akuma is nothing but his U.S. name mane. His creation ain't got shit to do w/Takuma unless you have something better for evidence. Wow Sado, that was pretty awful. They're both characters who are here because of Ryu. Gouki's here to add to the story. Takuma's here to add to the story of a ripoff who's here because of Ryu's popularity.

What's this director's name anyways? & does that title mean he came up w/the ideas for both games? If Frank Miller was stupid enough to do the same thing twice, just with different names, I'd call it a rehash. So if this guy directed both then AOF is a rehash of SF. Hooray!

Sado22 Restricted

Nah you didn't. Read what I said about KOF.

didn't what? gotta be more specific mane 😐

OMG WTF!? Akuma is nothing but his U.S. name mane. His creation ain't got shit to do w/Takuma unless you have something better for evidence. Wow Sado, that was pretty awful. They're both characters who are here because of Ryu. Gouki's here to add to the story. Takuma's here to add to the story of a ripoff who's here because of Ryu's popularity

okay calm down now. you aint a comic book character and this place aint a comic book. you want me to start calling you Dick Grayson cuz you're doin a bang up job at it.

brain: holy cow, sadoman!
sado: *bitchslap* shut up. 😆

so let me clear out your thought process here:
-ryo is ryu ripoff for having a name like that starts with "ry". but akuma isn't takuma ripoff on the same basis. and Gouki is ONLY IN JAPAN. the rest of the world knows him as akuma since that is what was used for english version. also "akuma" deputed in the American version of SSF2:turbo since it was an april's fool joke played by Cacpom of japan on capcom of US. so no...you're wrong.
-his creation? so what does john's creation have to do with Guile's? the army guy? only he aint army and neither is guile for the record since guile is of the airforce.
-they are here because of ryu? you're sounding desperate now mane. what does that even mean?

put up or shut up brain. you wanted proof i gave it to you:
-he came first
-the grand master of his game
-has the same damn name
-has same moves, but faster and stronger

what more proof do you want anyway? hear that sound? that's your pathetic little SF fanboy world comin crashin down 😄

and for the record:
-shinkuu hadouken is a spoof of haohshikoken. live with it.

What's this director's name anyways? & does that title mean he came up w/the ideas for both games? If Frank Miller was stupid enough to do the same thing twice, just with different names, I'd call it a rehash. So if this guy directed both then AOF is a rehash of SF. Hooray!

great now i gotta do more research for your lazyass. 😠
here we are:
his name is Hiroshi Matsumoto

~Sado

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Sado22
didn't what? gotta be more specific mane 😐
It's right under the last part of your post. Think.
Originally posted by Sado22
okay calm down now. you aint a comic book character and this place aint a comic book. you want me to start calling you Dick Grayson cuz you're doin a bang up job at it.

brain: holy cow, sadoman!
sado: *bitchslap* shut up. 😆

Don't get that one
Originally posted by Sado22
so let me clear out your thought process here:
-ryo is ryu ripoff for having a name like that starts with "ry". but akuma isn't takuma ripoff on the same basis.
That's right. Pretend the name is the only thing Ryo & Ryo have in common. Akuma has a meaning to it that fits the character 'cuz he's demon like. It has nothing to do w/Takuma. Pronounced the same?
Originally posted by Sado22
and Gouki is ONLY IN JAPAN.
Where the games come out 1st right?
Originally posted by Sado22
the rest of the world knows him as akuma since that is what was used for english version. also "akuma" deputed in the American version of SSF2:turbo since it was an april's fool joke played by Cacpom of japan on capcom of US. so no...you're wrong.
Source(for all of that shit)? Do you have anything official that led you to believe Akuma was inspired in the slightest by Takuma?
Originally posted by Sado22
-his creation? so what does john's creation have to do with Guile's? the army guy? only he aint army and neither is guile for the record since guile is of the airforce.
Now show me where I mention the army genius. I said military.
Originally posted by Sado22
-they are here because of ryu? you're sounding desperate now mane. what does that even mean?
Learn to comprehend what you read. This moveset they do was done 1st by Ryu. The others all came after & were derived from him. It's not rocket science.
Originally posted by Sado22
put up or shut up brain. you wanted proof i gave it to you:
-he came first
Nah Ryu did. This is what you think until you actually show proof.
Originally posted by Sado22
-the grand master of his game
And?
Originally posted by Sado22
-has the same damn name
Not really. Are they even pronounced the same?
Originally posted by Sado22
-has same moves, but faster and stronger
You make it seem like the moves originated from Takuma. They didn't. Ryu was doing them way b4. Come on now. Try again hater.
Originally posted by Sado22
what more proof do you want anyway?
😄 Some real proof & not some bullshit theories of yours.
Originally posted by Sado22
and for the record:
-shinkuu hadouken is a spoof of haohshikoken. live with it.
Says you & spoof & ripoff ain't the same. Dan is a spoof. Ryo is a ripoff.

Originally posted by Sado22
great now i gotta do more research for your lazyass. 😠
here we are:
his name is Hiroshi Matsumoto
Thanx. Now back up your theories w/facts & don't ever claim the moveset for Takuma again. We all know Kyokugen is a poor man's Ansatsuken.

Sado22 Restricted

That's right. Pretend the name is the only thing Ryo & Ryo have in common. Akuma has a meaning to it that fits the character 'cuz he's demon like. It has nothing to do w/Takuma. Pronounced the same?

dude, i'm not pretending jacksh!t and you know it.

Where the games come out 1st right?

pay attention.

Source(for all of that shit)? Do you have anything official that led you to believe Akuma was inspired in the slightest by Takuma?

officially? you mean frankie yagami? 😆

Now show me where I mention the army genius. I said military.

didn't say you did, foo.

Learn to comprehend what you read. This moveset they do was done 1st by Ryu. The others all came after & were derived from him. It's not rocket science

maybe you oughta to be more clear then. i was under the impression that fighting games are here becuase of ryu...which won't be exaggeration given your thought process.

Nah Ryu did. This is what you think until you actually show proof.

i'm talking about takuma, sherlock 😐

Not really. Are they even pronounced the same?

Takuma and akuma.
yeah, pretty much. also the point is that the grandmaster, who fights in the protagonist's art, with same but better honed moves and coaxing the hero to "unload" on him has been done before. it was done with takuma. not akuma.

Some real proof & not some bullshit theories of yours

getting personal now are we? come on man...you're being lame.
proof of what anyway? you wanted his name. i gave it to you. it's even there on wiki. just google the guy's name. how lazy are you anyway?
(don't answer that)

Says you & spoof & ripoff ain't the same. Dan is a spoof. Ryo is a ripoff.

you gonna start correcting my grammer now. you get the picture don't you? stop crying.

Thanx. Now back up your theories w/facts & don't ever claim the moveset for Takuma again. We all know Kyokugen is a poor man's Ansatsuken.

already have.

~Sado

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by Sado22
pay attention.
I am. I want proof that the Akuma came out in the U.S. b4 Gouki did in Japan since it's not usually like that. This is another example of Capcom USA f*cking up. Not trying to ripoff a small timer like Takuma
Originally posted by Sado22
officially? you mean frankie yagami? 😆
😂 obviously not. I never implied Frank was an official source. I've looked @ several things w/Gouki & never got even the slightest link w/Takuma. I want official proof. Not reaching theories. Don't dodge me. You're the 1st person I remember saying some crazy shit 'bout Gouki being a ripoff of Takuma. You can't expect me to not be skeptical mane. I need proof.
Originally posted by Sado22
didn't say you did, foo.
Then why'd you even bring the army up?
Originally posted by Sado22
maybe you oughta to be more clear then. i was under the impression that fighting games are here becuase of ryu...which won't be exaggeration given your thought process.
Only to a fool. One need only understand what they read to know otherwise. Don't mistake your lack of comprehension for a lack of clearness on my part. I mentioned Ryu, ripoff, Gouki & Takuma & you somehow get "fighting games in general". Leave the drugs alone mane 😂
Originally posted by Sado22
i'm talking about takuma, sherlock 😐
But Ryu predated him, Sherlock. a came before b, b & c both have stronger versions of moves from a & you're trying to make it seem like c got his moves from b. You don't see anything wrong w/that?
Originally posted by Sado22
Takuma and akuma.
yeah, pretty much. also the point is that the grandmaster, who fights in the protagonist's art, with same but better honed moves and coaxing the hero to "unload" on him has been done before. it was done with takuma. not akuma.
Gouki wants Ryu to go around offing people like he does. He really does want Ryu to unload on him.........FULLY. He wants Ryu to KILL him. Takuma don't want that. Otherwise he'd have told ripoff to finish him w/the deathblow. (Or maybe he knew how lame ripoff was & didn't wanna end up alive & naked like King) He just wants his son to stop being gay & knock King up & give him a grandson. He wants the style & the school to survive 4 ever. Gouki ain't interested in teaching. He just wants a battle to the death & wants ansatsuken fighters to fight like that all the time. So nah. Wrong again. Call me when you find Takuma saying "Kill me 'cuz that's what our style is made fo'. We supposed to be killin' muthafvckas, not knockin' 'em out. What the fvck is wrong w/you mane?!"
Originally posted by Sado22
getting personal now are we? come on man...you're being lame.
proof of what anyway? you wanted his name. i gave it to you. it's even there on wiki. just google the guy's name. how lazy are you anyway?
(don't answer that)
Very, but don't be asinine. I never get personal & if you'd read what I wrote b4 you started your response(What'd I tell you 'bout that?!?!) you'd see I'd already thanked you for the name. This is different. It's these theories of yours you have to prove to be true(& not bullshit 😄 ). That's why I asked for a source. Think
Originally posted by Sado22
you gonna start correcting my grammer now. you get the picture don't you? stop crying.
& how is that crying? Make sense. I'm just telling you like it is.
Originally posted by Sado22
already have.
Nah you didn't. Not by a longshot
Originally posted by Sado22
gouki..............ripped off from takuma by the way.
It's logical they were thinking of Ryu when Gouki was made since Gouki's like a stronger version of him. But Takuma, nah

Shadowloo's OG Saikyo Pharaoh Sol Radguy

Originally posted by SmashBro
What makes you think Frank Yagami was the only one to say that?
I know more have said it but they never said the game was horribly unbalanced to the point where there would be no since in playing it. Damn near er gamein mag gave it like a 9.5...
Originally posted by SmashBro
The thing is, I don't see how MVC2 can be more fun than NGBC other than the fact that you got screen filling supers (like it's DBZ or something), three characters on a team, and 56 characters to choose from. But if we're talking gameplay, then no way. Spamming the crazy VP combo, Magneto's high punch, or Captain Commando's overpowered combos is is too much for me to consider it more fun than NGBC, where EACH character have their ups and downs.
Well that's your opinion and I respect it but, imo, NBC sux Koala nuts compared to MVC2.

brainchild81 Privateer

😂 That's a new one

Shadowloo's OG Saikyo Pharaoh Sol Radguy

And by no means is NBC a bad game (It would get an 8.5 on my score card) ...I just think MVC2 is on another level...

Cosmic Cube I don't have any friends.

Originally posted by Shadowloo's OG
And by no means is NBC a bad game (It would get an 8.5 on my score card) ...I just think MVC2 is on another level...
Cause it is. 😄

Sado22 Restricted

am. I want proof that the Akuma came out in the U.S. b4 Gouki did in Japan since it's not usually like that. This is another example of Capcom USA f*cking up. Not trying to ripoff a small timer like Takuma

you want proof. okay let me speak really slowly so you get the picture:
-"gouki" was introduced in the american version of Super SF2: turbo
-this was because capcom of japan were pulling an april fool's joke on capom of US
-the plan worked since capcom of us were taken by the nuts and scrambled up one phone after another to contact capcom of japan

do you understand. proof? all there on tiamat' guide and i am by no means going to post the link for you. ask emperor for it.

the rest will come later. have to go.

~Sado

Sado22 Restricted

Then why'd you even bring the army up?

cuz of the "army guy" cliche.

But Ryu predated him, Sherlock. a came before b, b & c both have stronger versions of moves from a & you're trying to make it seem like c got his moves from b. You don't see anything wrong w/that?

yeah but while takuma, ryo and ryu are made by the same guy or under the same guy's supervision, AKUMA came after takuma and was NOT made by the same guy.
don't dodge it mane.

Gouki wants Ryu to go around offing people like he does. He really does want Ryu to unload on him.........FULLY. He wants Ryu to KILL him.Takuma don't want that.

yes he did. for one:
-yuri's life depended on it
-he wasn't holding back himself
-and he wanted ryo to fully master kyokugenryu

Otherwise he'd have told ripoff to finish him w/the deathblow.

that's what he did. idiot.

Gouki ain't interested in teaching. He just wants a battle to the death & wants ansatsuken fighters to fight like that all the time. So nah. Wrong again.

takuma wanted ryo to unload on him in total encounter where neither of the two was holding back. he wanted ryo to unload on him with the DEATH BLOW and that was exactly what ryo was about to do.

Call me when you find Takuma saying "Kill me 'cuz that's what our style is made fo'.

he said "do the f--king death blow". only he didn't say the f word.
even his victory quote is that. so despite us being online freinds, this is that time where you stfu 😐

We supposed to be killin' muthafvckas, not knockin' 'em out. What the fvck is wrong w/you mane?!"

death blow. look up death. and before you say the shirt tear...he hadn't mastered it then. and ryu couldn't even do that much in his whole carrier 😆

Very, but don't be asinine. I never get personal & if you'd read what I wrote b4 you started your response(What'd I tell you 'bout that?!?!) you'd see I'd already thanked you for the name. This is different. It's these theories of yours you have to prove to be true(& not bullshit ). That's why I asked for a source. Think

it was a joke. why do you think i put (don't answer that) right after it?
foo 😠

It's logical they were thinking of Ryu when Gouki was made since Gouki's like a stronger version of him. But Takuma, nah

let me make this clear:
-an unnamed guy challenges the protagonist after the main boss (big) fight
-practically begs him to finish him off with a death blow which will unleash the protagonist's full potential
-has the same moves but more honed
-wears a demon mask
-is later revealed to be TAKUMA

flash forward a few years later, a rival company where the guy with the initial idea worked before comes up with:
-an unnamed guy challenges the protagonist after the main boss fight
-has been begging him to unleash the "dark hadou" so they can fight an unhibited fight
-has the same moves but more honed
-has the appearance of a demon
-and is later called AKUMA

and it's not supposed to be a ripoff.

~Sado

Classic NES Balloooooooooooooon

Akuma is not Gouki's real name and a Tengu is not a demon. Gouki is based of Gouken who always exsisted. Design wise he's based of Ryu and Ken, which Rip-off stole.

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac
Originally posted by brainchild81
That lame guy w/the baseball cap on is his fave character & he calls himself Frank Yagami but that's not enough for you 'cuz he doesn't give fun games a low score? 😆

Another one of his favorite character's, is that lame guy with red hair and wears a choker. Frank even borrowed his last name. 😉

The Cap'n Senior Member
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Another one of his favorite character's, is that lame guy with red hair and wears a choker. Frank even borrowed his last name. 😉

Don't forget that headband wearing, high school dropout fire-wielding gloryhog that we like to bash around here. 😉

SmashBro Senior Member
Originally posted by Classic NES
Akuma is not Gouki's real name and a Tengu is not a demon. Gouki is based of Gouken who always exsisted. Design wise he's based of Ryu and Ken, which Rip-off stole.

Well actually, Tengus are known as Yōkais so yeah, they're demons.

Sado22 Restricted

Akuma is not Gouki's real name and a Tengu is not a demon. Gouki is based of Gouken who always exsisted. Design wise he's based of Ryu and Ken, which Rip-off stole.

i know that. i said he was introduced in USA as a nameless ho. Also "shenlong"/gouken was introduced way later. officially there were no pics of gouken (or that he even existed) till SFAlpha series which came out AFTER SSF2T.

Another one of his favorite character's, is that lame guy with red hair and wears a choker. Frank even borrowed his last name.

Iori is the coolest 2d ever character made, foo, next to Sol Badguy.

Well actually, Tengus are known as Yōkais so yeah, they're demons.

exactly. Tengu is basically a "demon bird".

~Sado

Wandering Flame Restricted

I was expecting to read much more in here..but...

Originally posted by Sado22
he said "do the f--king death blow". only he didn't say the f word.
even his victory quote is that. so despite us being online freinds, this is that time where you stfu 😐
crylaugh

And I believe Tengus are a type of demon in some Japanese mythology.

Ah, so how are all my Capcomites doing this lovely evening?

Classic NES Balloooooooooooooon
Originally posted by SmashBro
Well actually, Tengus are known as Yōkais so yeah, they're demons.

Yokai's are strange beast not demons. Tengu's are Sky Goblins, not demons.

Originally posted by Sado22
i know that. i said he was introduced in USA as a nameless ho. Also "shenlong"/gouken was introduced way later. officially there were no pics of gouken (or that he even existed) till SFAlpha series which came out AFTER SSF2T.

He still exsisted in the story, though.

Shadowloo's OG Saikyo Pharaoh Sol Radguy

Why does a Tenegu bein a demon or not matter?