Terry Bogard vs. Kyo Kusanagi (with a twist)

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Isn't AOF just a ripoff of SF, tho?

That's his victory quote. Thanx. We know he never said that 'cuz he lost. Doesn't that pop up when you lose to him? You said beat AOF. Where's the part where he told ripoff to kill him?

i think you're missing the point again. i said ryo hadn't mastered it by then. in fact sometime later i'm going to post the pic of ryo contemplating over the haohshikoken even after fighting king and saying he needs to unleash it. and the fact of the matter remains....why would takuma talk of him not mastering the death blow?
stop clutching at straws mane.

Sorry but logic would dictate that it's still gonna be tough to kill your own flesh & blood. Even if it's a loser like ripoff. I'm not 100% sure he was holding back, but we can't be sure he wasn't given the situation. Fathers spoil their daughters, don't mean they love 'em more'n their sons. I don't think he's a killer to begin with. Why didn't he just go kill Jeff?

true logic would. but fighting games are all about everything but logic. especially if we're talking about SNK where 20 year old kids in baseball hats beat the most badass german mofo in a hakama 😉
don't bring up logic in fighting games mang. its never about logic. he didn't kill jeff cuz then he had a choice since for one jeff was his friend and second takuma aint a killer. but things were different this time around. he had the choice between his daughter and his son. who knows, perhaps he always knew that ryo could beat him.........and this is why he keeps coaxing him into doing the death blow which would unleash his full potential. when you thnk about it, ryo practically became the successor of kyokugen AFTER beating takuma and mastering the haohshikoken.

and why are you constantly ignoring the fact that yuri butted in and saved takuma's life from ryo?

But Ryo never killed anybody w/the death blow. How do you know he can? All you've seen him do is kill clothes. & I just noticed they called other shit in his moveset deathblows too. He ain't killed w/them either.

who did ryu kill? i bet the guy does a the shinkuutatsumaki to open a jam jar.

Says you. History says he'd have simply uncovered his chest. I'll go w/history.

why are you going around in circles.
-he hadn't mastered it by then. we know for a fact that he hadn't cuz takuma's win quote is just that.
-storywise it is also obvious that he hadn't mastered it (look at my first point)
-and finally yuri stopped ryo from KILLING takuma.

put up or shut up, mane. you're embarrassing yourself.

Isn't AOF just a ripoff of SF, tho?

yes and no.
they are directed by the same person.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
i think you're missing the point again. i said ryo hadn't mastered it by then. in fact sometime later i'm going to post the pic of ryo contemplating over the haohshikoken even after fighting king and saying he needs to unleash it. and the fact of the matter remains....why would takuma talk of him not mastering the death blow?
stop clutching at straws mane.
😂 Nice try @ a dodge, but I'm not missing anything. You said Takuma told ripoff to finish him off. He didn't. You snarky lil' bastard you. Ya even called me an idiot over that shit. & it turns out you were just talking out of your ass........again. Subtract "wanting the hero to kill him" from your stupid list, idiot. & try to avoid the name calling. Especially when you're dead wrong. That shit about Takuma not wanting a deathmatch remains true. You lose........again. "I make you humble" 😆

Originally posted by Sado22
true logic would. but fighting games are all about everything but logic. especially if we're talking about SNK where 20 year old kids in baseball hats beat the most badass german mofo in a hakama 😉
don't bring up logic in fighting games mang. its never about logic. he didn't kill jeff cuz then he had a choice since for one jeff was his friend and second takuma aint a killer. but things were different this time around. he had the choice between his daughter and his son. who knows, perhaps he always knew that ryo could beat him.........and this is why he keeps coaxing him into doing the death blow which would unleash his full potential. when you thnk about it, ryo practically became the successor of kyokugen AFTER beating takuma and mastering the haohshikoken.
Coaxing? He never told him to do it mane. Takuma lost dammit! 😂 . Why would Ryu say "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance" after you've just kicked his ass? Your bullshit is falling apart. BTW, this shows that you are no AOF expert. Don't feel bad though. AOF sux & I doubt anybody'd want to be one anyway
Originally posted by Sado22
and why are you constantly ignoring the fact that yuri butted in and saved takuma's life from ryo? who did ryu kill? i bet the guy does a the shinkuutatsumaki to open a jam jar.
He'd open it too. ripoff would only do minor damage to the label 😆 & Ryu don't have any moves called a deathblow(ripoff has @least 2 according to a screen shot. & not 1 body to show 4 it.)IIRC. If Ryu did, he'd probably have a body count like Akuma does. I know for a fact he'd do more than clothes damage. That's just pathetic. There's no way around it.
Originally posted by Sado22
why are you going around in circles.
-he hadn't mastered it by then. we know for a fact that he hadn't cuz takuma's win quote is just that.
If you use that logic, I'm even more right. If he hadn't mastered it, it probably would have done the same as it did to King. Clothes damage.........minor clothes damage 😄 You are arguing w/yourself
Originally posted by Sado22
-storywise it is also obvious that he hadn't mastered it (look at my first point)
-and finally yuri stopped ryo from KILLING takuma.
W/a move he hadn't mastered? Make sense. You bring shame upon the dojo 😆
Originally posted by Akuma Killer
Isn't AOF just a ripoff of SF, tho?
Yep yep. Probably has a lot to do w/why AOF never really took off like that & why Iori, Kyo, Terry, & maybe even the Meira's are far more popular. AOF & ripoff ain't shit!!!

Originally posted by brainchild81
😂 I would too if he wasn't such a ripoff. I see no serious damage to King here. He's useless. He didn't even knock all of her clothes off 😆

Yeah. King is Gorgeous DAMMIT!!

Fvck yeah! I hate how they made her put on even more fvcking clothes on in the KOFs

Actually in honesty, since I not fond of KOF I must say the game did King justice. You got to admit her graphics and design look better in KOF than in AOF,

Which looks better

Nice try @ a dodge, but I'm not missing anything. You said Takuma told ripoff to finish him off. He didn't. You snarky lil' bastard you. Ya even called me an idiot over that shit. & it turns out you were just talking out of your ass........again. Subtract "wanting the hero to kill him" from your stupid list, idiot. & try to avoid the name calling. Especially when you're dead wrong. That shit about Takuma not wanting a deathmatch remains true. You lose........again. "I make you humble

look retard. takuma wants him to master the "death blow". how is that NOT a death match...especially since he himself is using it? stop thinking from your ass, dumb****.
now wrap your head around this one:
if someone asks you to do a "DEATH BLOW" are you or are you not asking to be killed. especially if he says (and i paraphrase) 'the only way you'll ever beat me is through the death blow which you'll have to master if you have any hopes of beating me'.
and this death blow was used prior to the fight but wasn't mastered which is exactly why he's asking him to master it.

also i do avoid the name calling. and if i do call you something it's a joke. stop throwing a hissyfit cuz i called you an idiot. you've called me things in the past and i never took it personally...emochild81.

by the way, nice dodge jackass. from takuma=akuma you've turned it all around into another one of your anti-AoF tanturms. so i take you concede🙂

Coaxing? He never told him to do it mane. Takuma lost dammit! . Why would Ryu say "You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance" after you've just kicked his ass? Your bullshit is falling apart. BTW, this shows that you are no AOF expert. Don't feel bad though. AOF sux & I doubt anybody'd want to be one anyway

dude, seriously.
ryo hadn't mastered the haohshikoken till then as has been obvious since the beginning and which i've been telling you. prior to his fight with takuma he is contemplating it, he did it to king but it wasn't mastered which is why she didn't die AND the one point you still dodge: yuri saved takuma's life by stopping ryo from doing the haohshikoken.
oh and not to mention the fact that ryo/robert are even suppossed to be mastering it in the practice sessions of the game 😬

now wrap your head around this:
-ryo hasn't mastered it
-through out the game he's trying to master it
-fights takuma (who he doesn't know is takuma)
-takuma's winquote is that the only way he'll ever beat him is through haohshikoken
-and guess what? that is just what ryo was about to do before yuri stopped him.
now why is that so hard to wrap your redneck head around?

now to summarize:
-ryo was about to kill him with the death blow
-ryo did it to king but hadn't mastered it then, tearing her clothes which puts him several leagues ahead of ryu
-takuma says that the only way he'll be beaten is if ryo does haohshikoken to him, which he at the point hadn't mastered
-ryo masters it against him
-and is about to kill him.

-oh and the most important point: you're dodging the whole point of the debate.

ripoff would only do minor damage to the label & Ryu don't have any moves called a deathblow(ripoff has @least 2 according to a screen shot. & not 1 body to show 4 it.)IIRC. If Ryu did, he'd probably have a body count like Akuma does. I know for a fact he'd do more than clothes damage. That's just pathetic. There's no way around it.

shows how much you know. do you know the meaning of ansatsuken? all of his moves are apparently called lethal moves. what's funny though is that while ryo was about to kill someone with his move, pussyboy ryu couldn't even beat little girls with his. 😆

If you use that logic, I'm even more right. If he hadn't mastered it, it probably would have done the same as it did to King. Clothes damage.........minor clothes damage You are arguing w/yourself

what about the fact that eeven the practice session has you perfecting that move?

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
look retard. takuma wants him to master the "death blow". how is that NOT a death match...especially since he himself is using it? stop thinking from your ass, dumb****.
now wrap your head around this one:
if someone asks you to do a "DEATH BLOW" are you or are you not asking to be killed. especially if he says (and i paraphrase) 'the only way you'll ever beat me is through the death blow which you'll have to master if you have any hopes of beating me'.
and this death blow was used prior to the fight but wasn't mastered which is exactly why he's asking him to master it.
😮 You still don't get it. What's wrong w/you? It's like you can't understand shit anymore, & it's not just this thread. Is it time for an intervention? Seriously. I'll explain this one last time. Pay attention. He says that "master the HK" shit after he wins right? You are using a win quote for a guy who LOST you moron! Now you're either dancing 'round the truth are you have some kinda mental disease. Takuma never asked him to master anything idiot. He was too busy getting his a$$ beat. Nobody says a win quote when they lose. It's a WINQUOTE you idiot. Not a lose quote. He never won, he never said it You get it now? If he said it BEFORE the match you'd have something. He didn't & you don't. Class dismissed.
Originally posted by Sado22
also i do avoid the name calling. and if i do call you something it's a joke. stop throwing a hissyfit cuz i called you an idiot. you've called me things in the past and i never took it personally...emochild81.
Call names all you want mane. Just know what you're talking about b4 you call someone who does an idiot. I'll respond to the rest later. Gonna keep my posts small so those who need special attention can follow along(hopefully). Now read the red parts & concentrate. Seriously, I'm trying to help you. We're gonna make it thru this lil' buddy 😄 We'll show 'em.

You still don't get it. What's wrong w/you? It's like you can't understand shit anymore, & it's not just this thread. Is it time for an intervention? Seriously. I'll explain this one last time. Pay attention. He says that "master the HK" shit after he wins right? You are using a win quote for a guy who LOST you moron! Now you're either dancing 'round the truth are you have some kinda mental disease. Takuma never asked him to master anything idiot. He was too busy getting his a$$ beat. Nobody says a win quote when they lose. It's a WINQUOTE you idiot. Not a lose quote. He never won, he never said it You get it now? If he said it BEFORE the match you'd have something. He didn't & you don't. Class dismissed.

look, ryo hadn't mastered the move by then. i pointed out King, the practice modes AND his own dialogue prior to the fight. stop being a dumbass. even aof faqs say that he mastered the move in his fight with takuma and was about to kill him. i brought up the winquote to proove a point...regarding the haohshikoken. stop being a dumbass.

oh and another thing....ryo could only become a master of kyokugenryu if he mastered the death blow.

Call names all you want mane. Just know what you're talking about b4 you call someone who does an idiot. I'll respond to the rest later. Gonna keep my posts small so those who need special attention can follow along(hopefully). Now read the red parts & concentrate. Seriously, I'm trying to help you. We're gonna make it thru this lil' buddy. We'll show 'em.

i'm not little 😉
you're the one who started the name calling. stop playing the victim. and if did, i was assuming you'd have a sense of humor about it. now shut up and admit that you're dodging the whole takuma-akuma deal with your rambling.

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
not ryu. evil ryu.
😂 Nice comeback but they are the same person. When E.Ryu goes to the club he uses Ryu's ID card. E.Ryu has the same SSNumber too 😆 Somebody shoots him in the face, Ken's not gonna say "That's OK. It was just Evil Ryu." Ryu basically cut a brotha in half his 1st time doing that move. ripoff does minor damage to a dress shirt 😐 Death blow must be merely a figure of speech
Originally posted by Sado22
i think you're missing the point again. i said ryo hadn't mastered it by then. in fact sometime later i'm going to post the pic of ryo contemplating over the haohshikoken even after fighting king and saying he needs to unleash it.
Post it ASAP mane. That's better than a non-canon winqoute anyday. This will validate @ least a lil' of what you're saying.
Originally posted by Sado22
takuma aint a killer.
Agreed. But somehow he wants a deathmatch like Gouki? I think not. How come in later games he don't say shit like "You shoulda killed me ya lil' pvssy. Real men fight to the death ya lil' bit*h!!! When we gonna have our deathmatch you bi*ch-made coward?" Gouki IS a killer w/a bodycount & he wants a deathmatch. Where's Takuma's bodycount? He has deathmoves too, so he has to have a bodycount right? Like I said, take that shit off the list please. Maybe "death blow" is just more SNK hyberbole.
Originally posted by Sado22

ryo hadn't mastered the haohshikoken till then as has been obvious since the beginning and which i've been telling you. prior to his fight with takuma he is contemplating it, he did it to king but it wasn't mastered which is why she didn't die AND the one point you still dodge: yuri saved takuma's life by stopping ryo from doing the haohshikoken.
oh and not to mention the fact that ryo/robert are even suppossed to be mastering it in the practice sessions of the game 😬
I mentioned the practice b4 you did. IIRC you can do the HK practice BEFORE you fight King. You select what practice you do in AOF.
Originally posted by Sado22
now to summarize:
-ryo was about to kill him with the death blow
-ryo did it to king but hadn't mastered it then, tearing her clothes which puts him several leagues ahead of ryu
-takuma says that the only way he'll be beaten is if ryo does haohshikoken to him, which he at the point hadn't mastered
-ryo masters it against him
-and is about to kill him.
More contradictions from you. He masters it during the fight? Then why'd you say
Originally posted by Sado22
what about the fact that eeven the practice session has you perfecting that move?
? Those sessions come b4 the fight. Not during. Mastering during the fight sounds quite lame. He never kills anything w/it. How is he sure he mastered it? All we ever see him do is kill things that ain't alive to begin with 😄 What during the fight lets him know he's mastered it? Does he kill somebody w/it? Yuri saves Takuma......from minor clothes damage & embarrassment. Nothing else.
Originally posted by Sado22
shows how much you know. do you know the meaning of ansatsuken? all of his moves are apparently called lethal moves. what's funny though is that while ryo was about to kill someone with his move, pussyboy ryu couldn't even beat little girls with his. 😆
😂 Ken & Ryu do a toned down version so they don't kill muthafvckas Sadp. You know this already. & I still doubt every single Ansat move is meant to K a B tho. It still seems lame to have "death blows" that don't kill. Look @ the pic. He ever kill w/that either? Two death blows, 0 bodies. Hopefully SNK USA fvcked up like Capcom USA does & mistranslated that shit. Otherwise ripoff is incompetent or Kyokugen is just a weak punk pvssy style. Couldn't beat lil girls? 😄 Is this another one of those lame "let's always assume the worst w/Ryu" things like that old Hugo shit you used to say all the time? Ryu ever get his @ss kicked by a lil' girl? I seem to remember a lil' girl dressed like a cat laughing as she beat the livin' shit outta ripoff suckassaki, not Ryu

Here's another non fatal deathblow 😆

Originally posted by brainchild81
We're gonna make it thru this lil' buddy 😄 We'll show 'em.
haermm

I should learn from you.

And now I'm lol'ing at the names emochild and sadp.

😆 We crazy as hell. Gears, do you think Gouki's a ripoff of Takuma? I always saw Gouki as just a more powerful, evil @sshole version of Ken & Ryu

Right now I think "Gouki" was derived from "Gouken".

But when the name Akuma was thought of, Takuma was being taken into consideration because of the similarity between the names, and how Takuma's relation to Ryo is similar to Akuma's with Ryu.

That's if the name Gouki was thought of before Akuma. I don't remember everything you two said.

I still gotta comb thru all of that shit in Tiamat's FAQ. (Because Sadp's a meanie & won't just copy & paste a bit so I don't have too) 😠 I'm wondering if I'm looking in the wrong Faq. I just really don't see how Akuma'd come b4 Gouki. These things always come out in Japan foist.

Faq's outdated.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Nice comeback but they are the same person. When E.Ryu goes to the club he uses Ryu's ID card. E.Ryu has the same SSNumber too Somebody shoots him in the face, Ken's not gonna say "That's OK. It was just Evil Ryu." Ryu basically cut a brotha in half his 1st time doing that move. ripoff does minor damage to a dress shirt Death blow must be merely a figure of speech

ryu don't go to club mane. we both know that. even if he does he stands near the artificial plants and waits for them to bloom....instead of watching a girl shake her booty. by now we all know ryu's a eunuch.
the thing is, however, that though they share the same body they aren't the same PERSON. ever done conscious studies? Heidegger's (f--k this guy's name!) a good read.

i'll post the rest later.

~Sado

still gotta comb thru all of that shit in Tiamat's FAQ. (Because Sadp's a meanie & won't just copy & paste a bit so I don't have too) I'm wondering if I'm looking in the wrong Faq. I just really don't see how Akuma'd come b4 Gouki. These things always come out in Japan foist.

I'm inclinded to believe that Akuma was heavily inspired by the EGM
April Fools joke for Sheng Long. Akuma, besides also being an 'uber
shotokan', jumping in and killing Bison out of no where like Sheng Long does in EGM's faked pictures is a heavy indication of this. What's really funny is that after EGM posted the first Sheng Long trick, Capcom of America actually contacted them and asked if it was true, thinking that Capcom of Japan put Sheng Long into the game without telling them. Silly Capcom of America and Capcom of Japan really don't trust each other very much or tell each other very much information, it seems. Just look at Poison's bio for crying out loud. Still, for Capcom of America to fall for an April Fools joke about a Capcom game...hehe.

Agreed. But somehow he wants a deathmatch like Gouki? I think not. How come in later games he don't say shit like "You shoulda killed me ya lil' pvssy. Real men fight to the death ya lil' bit*h!!! When we gonna have our deathmatch you bi*ch-made coward?" Gouki IS a killer w/a bodycount & he wants a deathmatch. Where's Takuma's bodycount? He has deathmoves too, so he has to have a bodycount right? Like I said, take that shit off the list please. Maybe "death blow" is just more SNK hyberbole.

takuma aint a killer. yes. but what choice did he have against ryu if his daughter was about to be killed? THAT is the part you seem to be forgetting mane. maybe subconsciously he was holding back...but this is a videogame mane 😬

I mentioned the practice b4 you did. IIRC you can do the HK practice BEFORE you fight King. You select what practice you do in AOF.

techinically you're suppossed to go in taht specific order with haohken "enlightenment" in the end.

More contradictions from you. He masters it during the fight? Then why'd you say

he masters it during the fight is like you leraning a move but it doesn't mean you've mastered it TILL you do it in a real fight 😬
what's wrong with you? foo.

~Sado