Mewtwo v.s. Kratos

Originally posted by Burning thought
i want to know what actual high mind feats Allakazam has shown, mind feats within minds, not simply using TK....thats not an into mind feat

how old is Ash? isnt he simply some Teen, no more experiance than you or i would be against some pokemon....

Kratos other experianes and his status give him a much higher priority over Ash, even in mind especially after surviving Ares mind powers

Alakazam has caused nightmares where he has haunted the group, he has lifted some really heavy pokemons with no problem, the Alakazam has shrunk people to tiny sizes and put them into a dollhouse to toy with. Heck, the Alakazam has even turned people into dolls (Litteraly) 😛

Ash is 10 years old. He beat the mindgame of Alakazam. If Kratos is as old as he is, and beat the mindgame of Ares, then he is right now at the same protective level of mind as Ash 😛

Ash survived Alakazam's powers. But enough about that. What impressive feats other than that mindgame (which Mewtwo probably would clear without effort, if human Kratos made it) has Ares pulled trough?

Originally posted by Fuddle
Alakazam has caused nightmares where he has haunted the group, he has lifted some really heavy pokemons with no problem, the Alakazam has shrunk people to tiny sizes and put them into a dollhouse to toy with. Heck, the Alakazam has even turned people into dolls (Litteraly) 😛

Ash is 10 years old. He beat the mindgame of Alakazam. If Kratos is as old as he is, and beat the mindgame of Ares, then he is right now at the same protective level of mind as Ash 😛

Ash survived Alakazam's powers. But enough about that. What impressive feats other than that mindgame (which Mewtwo probably would clear without effort, if human Kratos made it) has Ares pulled trough?

lmao Ash is 10 years old? so your comparing the power of pokemon on 10 year olds? jesus......,lmao

not neccerily, M2 would have his own fears coming against him, he is not strong enough to beat his greatest fears i doubt, hed prob be fooled by the mind games but thats the only mind power Ares has done

Ares using mind powers against a fully grown man full of hate and anger and being defeated>>>>>>Allakazam being defeated by a 10 year old, lmao at that and now Kratos is a God, its likely he has even more protection against simply being mind raped

Originally posted by Burning thought
lmao Ash is 10 years old? so your comparing the power of pokemon on 10 year olds? jesus......,lmao

not neccerily, M2 would have his own fears coming against him, he is not strong enough to beat his greatest fears i doubt, hed prob be fooled by the mind games but thats the only mind power Ares has done

Ares using mind powers against a fully grown man full of hate and anger and being defeated>>>>>>Allakazam being defeated by a 10 year old, lmao at that and now Kratos is a God, its likely he has even more protection against simply being mind raped

Alakazam has 5.000 IQ. Ash has shown a strong power of will in multiple episode. His willpower is great, even though he is 10 years old.

The greatest fear of Mewtwo is to be a mere shadow of Mew. To be nothing but an experiment. He has faced that fear already, and conquered. He then gained a new fear, that his pokemon friends would not be safe. He faced that fear and made it trough fine. No matter what fear Ares would pull trough, Mewtwo is too mentally powerful to be defeated by fear.

It is likely? Is it proven?

Originally posted by Fuddle
Alakazam has 5.000 IQ. Ash has shown a strong power of will in multiple episode. His willpower is great, even though he is 10 years old.

The greatest fear of Mewtwo is to be a mere shadow of Mew. To be nothing but an experiment. He has faced that fear already, and conquered. He then gained a new fear, that his pokemon friends would not be safe. He faced that fear and made it trough fine. No matter what fear Ares would pull trough, Mewtwo is too mentally powerful to be defeated by fear.

It is likely? Is it proven?

lol now will power makes a diffrence because its Ash? i thought mind powers were not part of will power? or was that TK....Kratos has incredible will power, pushing on against the God of war as a mortal is incredible enough let alone after murdering your own child and son because of this God, Ash would break and screech like the kid he is

meh well this cannot be proven

its likely simply because he would of already been against the mind power, so he would likely gain better knowledge of such a thing

Originally posted by Burning thought
lol now will power makes a diffrence because its Ash? i thought mind powers were not part of will power? or was that TK....Kratos has incredible will power, pushing on against the God of war as a mortal is incredible enough let alone after murdering your own child and son because of this God, Ash would break and screech like the kid he is

meh well this cannot be proven

its likely simply because he would of already been against the mind power, so he would likely gain better knowledge of such a thing

That was TK 🙂
And if he murderd his son because of this God, it is more reason than anything else to push on.

Sure it can. He face his greatest fear in both movies.

Would he? As a God of Wisdom or such I could understand, but where does it say that God of War gain better mental protection?

Originally posted by Fuddle
That was TK 🙂
And if he murderd his son because of this God, it is more reason than anything else to push on.

Sure it can. He face his greatest fear in both movies.

Would he? As a God of Wisdom or such I could understand, but where does it say that God of War gain better mental protection?

exactley why M2 powers will be very lmited in all ways on God kratos

yeh, God of War is warfare on many levels, and since the most powerful way as Ares said to fight Gods in GOW is through the mind, thats the reason why he is likely to have better protection but regardless, Kratos willpower>>>>whole pokemon cast

If the best way to fight Gods is trough the mind, then that means they have less protection there if anything 😐

Originally posted by Fuddle
If the best way to fight Gods is trough the mind, then that means they have less protection there if anything 😐

Who would be better for such a task than Mewtwo then? Is there anyone in GoW that is more powerful than Mewtwo in mental powers?

Originally posted by Fuddle
Who would be better for such a task than Mewtwo then? Is there anyone in GoW that is more powerful than Mewtwo in mental powers?

i think Ares is more powerful, what makes you think M2 is more powerful? because he can TK very powerfully? nothing to do with actual mind to mind combat at all, M2 apprent best feat is mind washing young kids, blimey m8 thats incredible

unfortunatley Kratos is a very strong willed, spartan warrior who has gone through battle after battle against intelligent opponents and served the gods for many tasks trough his years, yet you belive because M2 can brainwash a few 10 year olds it means hes going to easily beat someone who defied the mind powers of the god of war..think again

Originally posted by Burning thought
i think Ares is more powerful, what makes you think M2 is more powerful? because he can TK very powerfully? nothing to do with actual mind to mind combat at all, M2 apprent best feat is mind washing young kids, blimey m8 thats incredible

unfortunatley Kratos is a very strong willed, spartan warrior who has gone through battle after battle against intelligent opponents and served the gods for many tasks trough his years, yet you belive because M2 can brainwash a few 10 year olds it means hes going to easily beat someone who defied the mind powers of the god of war..think again

A few 10 years old? Ash was the only 10 year old in the group. He resetted entire events and altered the minds of multiple adults, a nifty fifty pokemons and one 10 year old boy (First movie).

I hear God, God, God and more God when you write about Kratos. Just because they are immortal Gods with great powers, does not mean they are great in every area. They may be Gods, but they may not be all resistant to psychic powers on Mewtwo's level.

Mewtwo has resetted the memory of hundreds adult humans, all their pokemons and hid his entire existance from everyone that had seen him (Save Ash, his friends and Jessy/James and all the pokemons that helped him) (Second movie).

You wonder what his TK has to do with mind combat at all? All his attacks are based on the mind. He does everything with mental powers. He move mountains with his mind. He alter brain patterns. He lift multiple tons effortless with his mind.

If you think about mind effects alone, Mewtwo's best feat (That is seen in the movies) is erasing all memories of him from the entire Team Rocket (Second movie), along with the resetting of minds and restarting of events (First movie)

none of these compare to Kratos in will power, since when do any of these people compare to Kratos on willpower and ive seen the clips youve posted, they sort of just stand there these people and dont do anything or try wheras Kratos would be fierce and angered

i bring up God because hes the God of war.......its his title, i can use it if i wish and in GOW universe it means immortality, near inuleraiity and power......all these things would stack up with his will power and his resistence to M2, also so far the only time ive seen M2 do things with the mind is when that white expanding circle goes out from their feet and teleports them away. gonna be hard doing the same thing to a guy the size of that circle and moving fast at you...

Kratos has also tonnes of weapons that would smash M2, on the other hand Ash and none of the humans could do much more than punch

Kratos willpower and power overall>>>anyone M2 tries to mind wipe and on top of that he resisted Ares who altho has no feats before can also look into minds and some such, Kratos would have resistence and i think thats more than enough time for him to smash M2 like a old carnival toy

You are basing Kratos protection against Mewtwo's mental abilities on "I think". Which was exactly what you complained about concerning me in the Mew, Mewtwo & Kain thread.

Originally posted by Fuddle
You are basing Kratos protection against Mewtwo's mental abilities on "I think". Which was exactly what you complained about concerning me in the Mew, Mewtwo & Kain thread.

you are too sure, thats what i feel insults me, you say things with a definite edge as if, if i go against you, it can be of no fault of yours but only fanboyism and foolishness that can make me thing against Mew or M2 beating kain, even though you have not played the games

i am not disregarding facts of M2 powers however, but in this i know Kratos is >>>>> any of these characters M2 has faced or wiped in will power if you want a more definite approach 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
you are too sure, thats what i feel insults me, you say things with a definite edge as if, if i go against you, it can be of no fault of yours but only fanboyism and foolishness that can make me thing against Mew or M2 beating kain, even though you have not played the games

i am not disregarding facts of M2 powers however, but in this i [B]know Kratos is >>>>> any of these characters M2 has faced or wiped in will power if you want a more definite approach 😉 [/B]

Sure, I agree that he is. However, this does still not mean Mewtwo can not do anything against his mind. After all, Mewtwo put 0 effort into the mind effects in neither of the two movies.

In my honest opinion, God Kratos could easy make the top five list of most powerful beings in the Pokemon world. Maybe top 3 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
Sure, I agree that he is. However, this does still not mean Mewtwo can not do anything against his mind. After all, Mewtwo put 0 effort into the mind effects in neither of the two movies.

In my honest opinion, God Kratos could easy make the top five list of most powerful beings in the Pokemon world. Maybe top 3 🙂

God Kratos imo could easily take everything in the Pokemon verse and crush the planet and the only beings capable of doing anything are probably Mew, M2 and Arceus if it was considered the creator

He would annhiliate any normal pokemon along with multiple legendary ones. Only the greatest would probably oppose him.

indeed, i agree. most pokemon have nothing on Kratos, even as a human i think he could prob take a lot of them

The only ones that would be a problem against him would be ghosts, since they are ghosts (Etheral) 😛

The most talented psychics would be a problem against human Kratos, along with the big ones such as Steelix. Although I think he would defeat most of them too 🙂

Originally posted by Fuddle
The only ones that would be a problem against him would be ghosts, since they are ghosts (Etheral) 😛

The most talented psychics would be a problem against human Kratos, along with the big ones such as Steelix. Although I think he would defeat most of them too 🙂

hmm Kratos has ghosts of his own, the hades soldiers he can summon which could battle ghosts for him