Muhammad's religion under scrutiny

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Re: Muhammad's religion under scrutiny

Originally posted by mahasattva
I have read book entitled "Islam in focus" written by Hammudah Abdalati who lived in canada, a renowned late Islamic scholar in North america. The life story of Muhammad began his peaceful propagation message with the arab tribal groups but later part of his life and revelations he became intolerant to arab tribal groups and the with christians and jews.

He hadn't become 'intolerant' he was literally in the middle of a war with people who were trying to wipe the early Muslims out.

Originally posted by mahasattva
During chaotic times and oppressions between tribal and religious groups in arabia and followers of Muhammad(muslims), He wen to wage war and commaded his muslim followers to kill the infidels until they believed in Allah, the god of Islam.

He was at war with apeople who had broken numerous peace treaties and who would capture, torture and slay the Muslims whenever they could for years. If those people had been kept around they would have been no end of trouble for the growing community of believers.

Originally posted by mahasattva
I happened to read a passage in that book which stated: ".... if there is any religion or constitution to guarantee peaceful freedom of religion and forbid compulsion in religion, it is Islam and islam alone..." as stated in early revelation of sura 2:256, “There is no compulsion in religion”. But for me this is not entirely true.

You are confused.

In the latter revelation of Muhammad's life, this teaching is abrogated by later verses which state that Islam is to be “shown” to people of other faiths who, if they refuse to acknowledge, accept and follow it, are then are to be slain (suras 9:5, 47:5, and 8:39 among others) in which Muhammad became intolerant with others.[/b][/quote]

Again he wasn't being 'intolerant' he was at war. The Jewish tribes had broken a treaty with the Muslim community and had actually sided with the pagans against them in acts of war.

Originally posted by mahasattva
The book is biased...

This post of yours is biased.

Originally posted by mahasattva
[B]...because it does not touched upon the totality of Quran/Islam. Hence, we could see in the contemporary islamic law(shariah) and in many Islamic countries, only the religion of Islam was compelled to believe and any muslims who wish to leave(apostate) islam will be punished or beheaded.

They should not have been. Stuff like that comes from poor understanding combined with political power-tripping.

islam is stupid. it was invented 600 years ad yet claims to have been around since adam and eve. even though the word islam and it's beliefs never ever existed in anyway before muhammed the mahound made it up. not a shred of evidence of a single damn word about islam. the only place there is a mention of a coming prophet named muhammed, which is supposed to prove he is gods prophet, is in the quran his dumb ass wrote. They believe adam and eve built mecca. Muslim idiots are in denial that mecca was an arab pagan temple for thousand years. even muhammed was pagan and openly said he'd do anything to have control over mecca to make money. which through his made up religion he got it. the best way to prove islam is fake is how it says the new test says to pray to mary and that there is a trinity. nt says neither.

Originally posted by long pig
islam is stupid.

You are stupid. I will show you how.

Originally posted by long pig
it was invented 600 years ad yet claims to have been around since adam and eve. even though the word islam and it's beliefs never ever existed in anyway before muhammed the mahound made it up. not a shred of evidence of a single damn word about islam.

Islam is considered as an abrahamic religion. Hence, the similarities.

Context is same: The first man and woman are called Adam and Eve. They were believers. The rest builds up from here.

Originally posted by long pig
the only place there is a mention of a coming prophet named muhammed, which is supposed to prove he is gods prophet, is in the quran his dumb ass wrote.

Show some respect to great individuals. You are a nobody in this world while billions know and respect Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Also, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the 'last Prophet' of God Almighty. And how would the past generations would know about him? Use your brain.

Originally posted by long pig
They believe adam and eve built mecca. Muslim idiots are in denial that mecca was an arab pagan temple for thousand years.

You are in denial and lying.

I am assuming that you are talking about Kabah here?

It has been pointed out in the Holy Quran that Kabah was build by prophets Abraham and Ismail.

Originally posted by long pig
even muhammed was pagan and openly said he'd do anything to have control over mecca to make money. which through his made up religion he got it

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) belonged to a well respected family of his time in Mecca.

And who told you that the goal of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was to control Mecca for making money? 🙄

Ever attempted to read history? Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) always believed in helping others. He never build any CASTLES and filled them with wealth. He lived the life of a poor.

And made up religion? LOL!

Why did not Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) portrayed and glorified himself as a divine being if Islam was his PERSONAL INVENTION?

Translation of very first Ayah is here. It is clearly referring to God Almighty.

Originally posted by long pig
the best way to prove islam is fake is how it says the new test says to pray to mary and that there is a trinity. nt says neither.

Care to elaborate? You can't even construct a proper statement?

Islam teaches us that Prophet Jesus is a man and not son of God and neither God himself. He is the son of a woman called Mary. His birth can be regarded as a 'virgin birth' under modern context. However, virgin birth is not an evidence of the absurd teachings of the church. It shows that God Almighty has command over everything in the universe. He can perform feats, which may seem unnatural to us. This is one of the fundamental capabilities of the God Almighty since he is all powerful.

Their are cases of virgin births among animals. Want me to cite examples? And what would you consider those animals?

But for the sake of religious tolerance (as preached in Islam), I will refrain from making fun of Christianity or any other faith/religion.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are stupid. I will show you how.

Islam is considered as an abrahamic religion. Hence, the similarities.

Context is same: The first man and woman are called Adam and Eve. They were believers. The rest builds up from here.

Show some respect to great individuals. You are a nobody in this world while billions know and respect Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

Also, Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the 'last Prophet' of God Almighty. And how would the past generations would know about him? Use your [B]brain.

You are in denial and lying.

I am assuming that you are talking about Kabah here?

It has been pointed out in the Holy Quran that Kabah was build by prophets Abraham and Ismail.

Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) belonged to a well respected family of his time in Mecca.

And who told you that the goal of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was to control Mecca for making money? 🙄

Ever attempted to read history? Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) always believed in helping others. He never build any CASTLES and filled them with wealth. He lived the life of a poor.

And made up religion? LOL!

Why did not Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) portrayed and glorified himself as a divine being if Islam was his PERSONAL INVENTION?

Translation of very first Ayah is here. It is clearly referring to God Almighty.

Care to elaborate? You can't even construct a proper statement?

Islam teaches us that Prophet Jesus is a man and not son of God and neither God himself. He is the son of a woman called Mary. His birth can be regarded as a 'virgin birth' under modern context. However, virgin birth is not an evidence of the absurd teachings of the church. It shows that God Almighty has command over everything in the universe. He can perform feats, which may seem unnatural to us. This is one of the fundamental capabilities of the God Almighty since he is all powerful.

Their are cases of virgin births among animals. Want me to cite examples? And what would you consider those animals?

But for the sake of religious tolerance (as preached in Islam), I will refrain from making fun of Christianity or any other faith/religion. [/B]

You told them!! But there wasn't much need as his name states his attributes itself - long pig. lol!

Re: Re: Muhammad's religion under scrutiny

Originally posted by Regret
As opposed to mainstream Christianity that says even if a man never hears of Christ that same man must be placed in an eternal fire. Stoning was never condemned by Christ, he merely placed a requirement on the one doing the stoning.

The Bible is full of similar comments to one not of the Christian faith.

When you hold a mirror up to someone else hold it up to yourself. I do not know your religion, but I doubt I could not find statements that are off in yours as well.teachings. Islam.

You're so full of horse shit it's pathetic. What dumbass imam told you the bible says "even if a man never hears of christ he will be placed into eternal fire"? Or did you just make it up hoping no one would notice? The greatest thing Muhammed the Mahound ever did was getting dug up by dogs a few days after he was buried and them dragging his carcass across the desert. He litterally is dogshit. Like, literally.

Like....literally. The true prophet of god. Dug up by a Pack of wild dogs. Eaten by the most unclean animal in islam. Torn into bite sized chunks. Fought over like a ham bone. Digested. And turned into dogshit. No offence of course. Peace be upon dogshit.

Doesn't it say in the word of God that "The false prophets, idol worshipers and those who lead my people a stray.....the wild dogs shall lick up thier blood and consume their flesh and their carcass strewn into the wilderness. And their end shall be as their beginning(meaning they were dog shit when they were alive and will be dog shit after their death)" Hmmm.....i wonder if that's applicable to muhammed ha mahound?

Originally posted by long pig
Like....literally. The true prophet of god. Dug up by a Pack of wild dogs. Eaten by the most unclean animal in islam. Torn into bite sized chunks. Fought over like a ham bone. Digested. And turned into dogshit. No offence of course. Peace be upon dogshit.
Did that really happen? How would anyone know that specific a detail, unless it's common knowledge, easily proven?

Originally posted by long pig
You're so full of horse shit it's pathetic. What dumbass imam told you the bible says "even if a man never hears of christ he will be placed into eternal fire"? Or did you just make it up hoping no one would notice? The greatest thing Muhammed the Mahound ever did was getting dug up by dogs a few days after he was buried and them dragging his carcass across the desert. He litterally is dogshit. Like, literally.
Originally posted by long pig
Like....literally. The true prophet of god. Dug up by a Pack of wild dogs. Eaten by the most unclean animal in islam. Torn into bite sized chunks. Fought over like a ham bone. Digested. And turned into dogshit. No offence of course. Peace be upon dogshit.
Originally posted by long pig
Doesn't it say in the word of God that "The false prophets, idol worshipers and those who lead my people a stray.....the wild dogs shall lick up thier blood and consume their flesh and their carcass strewn into the wilderness. And their end shall be as their beginning(meaning they were dog shit when they were alive and will be dog shit after their death)" Hmmm.....i wonder if that's applicable to muhammed ha mahound?

clearly this man has been touched by the grace of jesus christ

I guess that idiot doesn't wanna prove his claim that jesus sends people to hell even if they never heard of him. And Yeah, the wild dog thing happened.....just like the bible said it would. It happened to nearly every one of his offspring that "took" his place as the mouth piece of Allah lo Akbar. Muslims in some sects even mourne the day it happened. Now, tell me something: Why would Allah(lo Akbar) allow this? Why would he allow an infidel's prophecy come true again and again against his true prophets? Think about it, you muslim idiots. If allah is the real god, it seems like he hates your guts. He lets almost the entirety of you die before you're 30 and he forces your people to live in their own feces while being slapped around by every christian army that walks by. I hope this mahound(mahound is arabic for false prophet.) lover comes back and argues with me. I probably know more of his faith than he does himself. For 2000 years people think the "upcoming false prophet" is the anti christ. But....cont

I think it's muhammed. He's done EVERYTHING the coming fake prophet was prophicied to do. Everything. 1. The cfp(coming false prophet) is a gentile. Check. 2. CFP comes from the east...i.e arabia. Check 3. Hates and made war on keys and Israel. Check. 4. CFP stops the sacrifice. Jesus was our sacrifice when he was killed. Muhhamed said Jesus was never killed. Meaning he took away the sacrifice by saying Jesus never died. 5. CFP will make treaty with israel and instantly breaks it. Muham made treaties with Jews and israel, and INSTANTLY broke them. 6. The CFP will claim to be of the chosen race of god even though he's a gentile(they claim abraham as forfather. He isn't). Check. 7. The CFP will be dog food. Check. I got tons more. Might make a thread about islam's stupidity.

Originally posted by long pig
I think it's muhammed. He's done EVERYTHING the coming fake prophet was prophicied to do. Everything. 1. The cfp(coming false prophet) is a gentile. Check. 2. CFP comes from the east...i.e arabia. Check 3. Hates and made war on keys and Israel. Check. 4. CFP stops the sacrifice. Jesus was our sacrifice when he was killed. Muhhamed said Jesus was never killed. Meaning he took away the sacrifice by saying Jesus never died. 5. CFP will make treaty with israel and instantly breaks it. Muham made treaties with Jews and israel, and INSTANTLY broke them. 6. The CFP will claim to be of the chosen race of god even though he's a gentile(they claim abraham as forfather. He isn't). Check. 7. The CFP will be dog food. Check. I got tons more. Might make a thread about islam's stupidity.
You mean to say my little riley is eating Muhammed flakes....right now?!?!

Another thing these mentally diluted idiots say that pissess me off is they claim "Allah is the true name of god given only to Muhammed" Total bullshit. "Allah" is simply a corrupted version of the hebrew generic word for god "Ellah". Another thing that gets me is they claim Islam has been around since adam and eve. lol @ stupid. I defy and muslim show any proof that there was a SINGLE reference to Islam before 600ad. They won't. They can't. It didn't exist. The closest they can get is that 80 percent of the stories and such in the Koran was copied, word for ****ing word from various apocryphal books. ESPECIALLY Nostic writings. All written 200 ad. He's a thief. He stole writtings and also stole horses. What a prophet.

Well, actually, just to show I'm not biased....Muhammed isn't the ONLY person to fit most of the criteria of the false prophet. In fact, there's a guy who literally did everything the anti christ was supposed to do.....his name was Jesus. Seriously. Chew on that.

Originally posted by long pig
Well, actually, just to show I'm not biased....Muhammed isn't the ONLY person to fit most of the criteria of the false prophet. In fact, there's a guy who literally did everything the anti christ was supposed to do.....his name was Jesus. Seriously. Chew on that.
Wasn't the antichrist supposed to come after the messiah or something though?

L Ron Hubbard quote.
“If you want to make a little money, write a book. If you want to make a lot of money, create a religion.”

How many people in such a short amount of time have joined Scientology? Islam is just a more aggressively focused version of the other cults.

Muhammad knew this and strung already written text into a perfect scheme to create a cult. Both Religious and Political movement. Never befriend a non believer or Muhammad will sever from you.

Of course most people want to live a good life, have children and live and let live. And now these poor kids have to contend with racism, not being able to get a job and immersing themselves in foreign culture that now resents them. So they turn to crime and community. It's a fault in the human condition. And it pisses me off. Ignorance is bliss indeed!

If people really wanted to live their lives in respect to that of an enlightened prophet, why seek to destroy all those different from you?

Why not embrace what God truly has to offer, Diversity.