Originally posted by Burning thought1. Sure, but Dante is faster, stronger(Wolvie at best is class 2, Dante is like class 5), very skilled, and has so many weapons and different powers to overwhelm Wolvie, he's good, but not that good. Dante couldn't kill him, but he could knock him the fvck out. Frickin Captain America did. Dante>>>Captain America.
Wolverine can Regerate from almost nothing apprently and his adamantium claws would slash Dante in half.......not too much, for example both Hulk and juggernaut have exptremes, i just dont think Dante has enough powers of high enough magnitude to equel low herald, for example Hulk can constabtly keep getting stronger, Juggernaut can knock down almost anything, especially when hes running
2. But they lack real versatility. Both are bricks/tanks, they are just big strong fvckers who hit hard and take hits. Dante is much faster, and has more things going for him, I think he could possibly beat Hulk(not Juggy tho, no way).
In the cartoon, Wolverine slices bullets with his claws. He dodge multiple attacks from the X-Mansion's defense system, which includes machineguns and an easy fifteen high-speed homing robot discs with spikes.
If I recall properly, he also cuts the bolt from a crossbow in half when it comes rushing at him.
In the third movie, he even reached Phoenix and touched her physically.
Originally posted by FuddleCartoon and movies=/=canon.
In the cartoon, Wolverine slices bullets with his claws. He dodge multiple attacks from the X-Mansion's defense system, which includes machineguns and an easy fifteen high-speed homing robot discs with spikes.
If I recall properly, he also cuts the bolt from a crossbow in half when it comes rushing at him.
In the third movie, he even reached Phoenix and touched her physically.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Sure, but Dante is faster, stronger(Wolvie at best is class 2, Dante is like class 5), very skilled, and has so many weapons and different powers to overwhelm Wolvie, he's good, but not that good. Dante couldn't kill him, but he could knock him the fvck out. Frickin Captain America did. Dante>>>Captain America.2. But they lack real versatility. Both are bricks/tanks, they are just big strong fvckers who hit hard and take hits. Dante is much faster, and has more things going for him, I think he could possibly beat Hulk(not Juggy tho, no way).
Are you not the one that is all against A > B > C logic?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Sure, but Dante is faster, stronger(Wolvie at best is class 2, Dante is like class 5), very skilled, and has so many weapons and different powers to overwhelm Wolvie, he's good, but not that good. Dante couldn't kill him, but he could knock him the fvck out. Frickin Captain America did. Dante>>>Captain America.2. But they lack real versatility. Both are bricks/tanks, they are just big strong fvckers who hit hard and take hits. Dante is much faster, and has more things going for him, I think he could possibly beat Hulk(not Juggy tho, no way).
1. if what Fuddle just said is true, cutting bullets and crossbow bolts in mid air and dodging machine guns ime not sure Dante beats Wolvie in speed by too much at all, not without his time manip, also Stronger? ime not so sure about that, i mean yeh Dante can break buildings and such but Wolverine has adamantium throughout him, his actual hitting strength would be far greater. He has a lot of weapons but not all of them are good and some of them are upgraded versions of older weapons, but really in the end it narrows down to a few good weps that are actually useful and powers such as becoming a double with doplleganger or time manip is powerful but swords dont= admantium and are never said to be unbreakable afaik, as well as his been impaled before now, survived but that was by his brother vergil, if an angered wolvie slashed away until there was nothing less Dante would be swiss cheese
indeed they lack veratiliy, but i dont belive Dantes versatiliy makes up for their no limit based powers, Juggs could crush Dante and Hulk, i cant see how Dante could possibly beat hulk unless he went sparda and flew but eventually Hulk would become a monstrous giant with the rage
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I think you are the misinformed one my friend.
how so? ive played all 3 DMC games, know his powers, have you by any chance just askin?
and is anything about wolvie ive said wrong?, he can regenrate from a skeleton AND has admantium which>>Dantes melee weaponry
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yeah, but what I am saying is, Wolvie is durable and stuff, but not invincible, Captain America can produce enough force to knock out Wolvie, that is all I'm saying.
You should still not use that logic. Each character has their strength and weakness, a tough luck and a good luck time. That, along with the fact that plot advancing events apply to many of the marvel fights (And many other fights at all).
Originally posted by Burning thought1. Noncanon feats. Dante easily beats Wolvie in speed, Wolvie isn't even Spiderman speed to my knowledge. In strength Wolvie is 2 tons when he exerts himself to his limit, and that strength comes from his Healing Factor, exercise, and his Adamantium. Dante since he has the strength, speed, and mass advantage(Wolverine is a midgit), can hit harder. His adamantium makes his bones hard. His time manip alone would give him the victory over Wolvie. Adamantium is harder than Dante's weapons, but Dante's force of hits will keep them from breaking on it.
1. if what Fuddle just said is true, cutting bullets and crossbow bolts in mid air and dodging machine guns ime not sure Dante beats Wolvie in speed by too much at all, not without his time manip, also Stronger? ime not so sure about that, i mean yeh Dante can break buildings and such but Wolverine has adamantium throughout him, his actual hitting strength would be far greater. He has a lot of weapons but not all of them are good and some of them are upgraded versions of older weapons, but really in the end it narrows down to a few good weps that are actually useful and powers such as becoming a double with doplleganger or time manip is powerful but swords dont= admantium and are never said to be unbreakable afaik, as well as his been impaled before now, survived but that was by his brother vergil, if an angered wolvie slashed away until there was nothing less Dante would be swiss cheeseindeed they lack veratiliy, but i dont belive Dantes versatiliy makes up for their no limit based powers, Juggs could crush Dante and Hulk, i cant see how Dante could possibly beat hulk unless he went sparda and flew but eventually Hulk would become a monstrous giant with the rage
how so? ive played all 3 DMC games, know his powers, have you by any chance just askin?
and is anything about wolvie ive said wrong?, he can regenrate from a skeleton AND has admantium which>>Dantes melee weaponry
2. Juggy would crush just about anybody that can't BFR him man. The guy can't be harmed by physical attacks, only high powered cosmic power and magic can harm him, and he has a shield to defend against that and a phenomenol healing factor. His strength is also tied to his will/conviction, the greater his conviction, the greater his strength. Dante can beat Hulk the same way most guys do, with skill and intelligence, the guy is just a giant rock.
Cartoons aren't canon, and "cut him with a sword"? As if you're reffering to the beginner 18 years old Dante whose arsenal is limited to Rebellion and Ebony&Ivory. Kain at the beginning of his career is pathetic.
Wolverine has "teh skilz&teh klawz" but he rarely demonstrates it (skills, not claws). When was the last time Wolverine SURFED on the rocket launched onto him? Or SHOT bullets out of air with his own shots (Dante did it in gunfight with Lady)?
Dante's deflecting bullets with sword wasn't that much of a high end feat (though it was good for his weakest form- young unexperienced Dante at the beginning of that career).
In fact with his vast arsenal of weaponry and powers Dante won't have any troubles with making Wolvie his b*tch. I doubt he'll even find it entertaining.
Originally posted by FuddleI take back the Cap America thing anyway, now that I think of it, he knocked Wolvie out with his shield, which is harder than adamantium.
You should still not use that logic. Each character has their strength and weakness, a tough luck and a good luck time. That, along with the fact that plot advancing events apply to many of the marvel fights (And many other fights at all).
Tho, if Wolvie was knocked out by a punch from someone who doesn't hit as hard as Dante, then logically Dante can knock him out as well.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel✅
Cartoons aren't canon, and "cut him with a sword"? As if you're reffering to the beginner 18 years old Dante whose arsenal is limited to Rebellion and Ebony&Ivory. Kain at the beginning of his career is pathetic.
Wolverine has "teh skilz&teh klawz" but he rarely demonstrates it (skills, not claws). When was the last time Wolverine SURFED on the rocket launched onto him? Or SHOT bullets out of air with his own shots (Dante did it in gunfight with Lady)?
Dante's deflecting bullets with sword wasn't that much of a high end feat (though it was good for his weakest form- young unexperienced Dante at the beginning of that career).In fact with his vast arsenal of weaponry and powers Dante won't have any troubles with making Wolvie his b*tch. I doubt he'll even find it entertaining.
Bullets?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverine/59818cc8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-17.jpg
There you have him dealing with bullets in different ways in the comic. No cartoon, nor movie. Which proves that he is not all chanceless against some gunman 🙂
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Noncanon feats. Dante easily beats Wolvie in speed, Wolvie isn't even Spiderman speed to my knowledge. In strength Wolvie is 2 tons when he exerts himself to his limit, and that strength comes from his Healing Factor, exercise, and his Adamantium. Dante since he has the strength, speed, and mass advantage(Wolverine is a midgit), can hit harder. His adamantium makes his bones hard. His time manip alone would give him the victory over Wolvie. Adamantium is harder than Dante's weapons, but Dante's force of hits will keep them from breaking on it.2. Juggy would crush just about anybody that can't BFR him man. The guy can't be harmed by physical attacks, only high powered cosmic power and magic can harm him, and he has a shield to defend against that and a phenomenol healing factor. His strength is also tied to his will/conviction, the greater his conviction, the greater his strength. Dante can beat Hulk the same way most guys do, with skill and intelligence, the guy is just a giant rock.
Devil Arms are demonically forged weapons, not earth-made ones. Don't say that they'll cut adamantium, but in terms of durability it looks like close stalemate.
Sparda form Dante can try and annoy Juggernaut, but Juggs has survived a godforce blast so Juggs most likely beats him.
Mass advantage goes to Wolverine, Dante is 6'2'' at his human form (taller in demonic and from what we see in games, like three metres tall in high demonic form), and Wolverine has additional mass from adamantium sceleton. That doesn't save Canuck midget from becoming a b*tch of high demonic lord, though...Just to clarify.
Anyways, even without time manipulation...how'bout being frozen alive by Cerberus ice manipulation (just the random way of KOing Wolvie I thought of).
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel1. I don't really think they are as hard as adamantium at all, but to each its own.
Devil Arms are demonically forged weapons, not earth-made ones. Don't say that they'll cut adamantium, but in terms of durability it looks like close stalemate.
Sparda form Dante can try and annoy Juggernaut, but Juggs has survived a godforce blast so Juggs most likely beats him.Mass advantage goes to Wolverine, Dante is 6'2'' at his human form (taller in demonic and from what we see in games, like three metres tall in high demonic form), and Wolverine has additional mass from adamantium sceleton.
Anyways, even without time manipulation...how'bout being frozen alive by Cerberus ice manipulation (just the random way of KOing Wolvie I thought of).
2. Juggy could just pick his ass all day, Dante will not hurt him, he can't be harmed physically.
3. Oh yeah, I forgot to take into account Wolvie's skeleton.
4. Or that.
BT, I think what is happening is some people in the comic forums have convinced you Wolvie is some sort of invulnerable, unharmable, killing machine, sure, he can take alot and heal from alot, but he is by no means unbeatable.
