Originally posted by leonheartmmI entirely agree. Considering how vehemently they consider themselves the legitimate successors of Abraham and the Koran's generally consistency with that (from my best understanding as I have not actually read the Koran).
islam's root is not in padanism but in the abrahamic relegions of the past with a little bit of arab customs n stuff.
Originally posted by leonheartmmIt's a goal of mine for the next 10 years. However, to be honest, I haven't even read the entire Bible yet. I think that's going first.
^u shud read the quran and the hadith. they are intriguing books in themselves if read without any bias or prior notions of history or what the relegions is about by other people.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Its doesn´t matter what the Koran or Muslims say, they are the remnants of a Moon God (Allah) religion (crescent moon as symbol).
Total pagan and nothing to do with the Christian religion, apart from bits they obviously copied from the jewish Turah.Isa who is mentioned in the Koran ISN`T even Jesus, the time frames don´t add up even though there are similarity's.
And theres a whole array of predictions which actually happened leading up to Jesus´s birth and after, this is not the case with the Koran.
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The crescent moon represents change and the five-pointed star represents the five pillars of Islam.
And did you expect that website to be unbiased and down-the-middle?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
^ 🙄The crescent moon represents change and the five-pointed star represents the five pillars of Islam.
And did you expect that website to be unbiased and down-the-middle?
where are you getting this stuff from??????? what does "change" have to do with islam???? n u shud know that the moon has significance due to muslims following the lunar months and a lot of mosques dont even have the moon insignia. its more prevelant in pakistan/iran/iraq than anywhere else{n sumwhat in istanbul}
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Basic comparison - Jesus was a Jew and Muhammad a Muslim. I think we're beginning to see a problem already.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Saying that Muhammad was a Muslim is like saying that Jesus was a Christian.
Bitchiness' point is still valid. Muhammad's earlier belief was even farther from Jesus' set of beliefs then Muhammad's Muslim belief (whether you count Jesus as Jew or Christian). Muhammad was polytheistic at first, remember?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
No.Jesus wanted to revise Jewish laws, not bring a new religion while Muhammad wanted to introduce a whole new religion.
Christians made Judaism into new religion, not Jesus.Therefore, no.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Not according to the bible.
Why not according to the Bible?
Originally posted by Quark_666
Bitchiness' point is still valid. Muhammad's earlier belief was even farther from Jesus' set of beliefs then Muhammad's Muslim belief (whether you count Jesus as Jew or Christian). Muhammad was polytheistic at first, remember?Why not according to the Bible?
Jesus started his own church and rebelled against the religious Jewish authorities.
Yes. But it still becomes a problem when comparing Jesus with Muhammad in much technical detail, because Jesus didn't start a Muslim church. If anything, Jesus started a new denomination of Judaism.
Jesus and Muhammad were both monotheistic. Both believed in spreading their doctrines to the entire world, not just one civilization. Both had significant similarities in doctrine.
The nature of their religions after their deaths were significantly different. Their behavior throughout their lives were vastly different. It poses a problem to compare Christian/Judaic historical figures with Islamic historical figures.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus started his own church and rebelled against the religious Jewish authorities.
Jesus never started his own church.
And he only rebelled to the Jewish authorities to the extent that he didn't follow their dogmatic views on how religion should be practised in their views. He was controversial.
Originally posted by queeq
Jesus never started his own church.And he only rebelled to the Jewish authorities to the extent that he didn't follow their dogmatic views on how religion should be practised in their views. He was controversial.
So, what was that talk Jesus had with Peter calling him a rock that would be the foundation of his church?
I'm glad you agree that Jesus rebelled against Jewish authorities. I never said to what degree, or if it was justified.