Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomTell me specifically which points. I want to hear specifics here. Its no surprise that a lot of people were going to say that quan you got your ass kicked. I mean you love Darkseid for one and hate me to boot. Break it down and tell me what exactly.
Co-sign. Sorry Quan but alot of stuff you mentioned held no wait and many of the points you tried to make, actually supported Desaad's argument.😬
Originally posted by quanchi112"The Cronus pwned the pantheon", "Ds stalemated New Genesis", and the "Ares beat him to the punch" statements, are what come to mind the most.
Tell me specifically which points. I want to hear specifics here. Its no surprise that a lot of people were going to say that quan you got your ass kicked. I mean you love Darkseid for one and hate me to boot. Break it down and tell me what exactly.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomOk but thats how you think I lost. That has nothing to do with Thanos and the forces I brought into play here. You disagree with those minor points but that didnt decide who won the debate.
"The Cronus pwned the pantheon", "Ds stalemated New Genesis", and the "Ares beat him to the punch" statements, are what come to mind.
Originally posted by quanchi112Well alot of your Thanos scans where......kinda laughable when compared to what Desaad showed. Thanos had nothing in his arsenal that could trump Apokoliptian tech, or it's powerful allies. Plus bringing up the Thanos clones didn't help neither.
Ok but thats how you think I lost. That has nothing to do with Thanos and the forces I brought into play here. You disagree with those minor points but that didnt decide who won the debate.
Originally posted by HazsekswthurmomHe sent a clone against Asgard. Meaning he wanted it to attack Asgard and it nearly succeeded in taking it over. That was a clone. So Thanos could most ertainly send them against Darkseid. They are destructive but in a war who the hell cares as there will be a lot of destruction.
Well alot of your Thanos scans where......kinda laughable when compared to what Desaad showed. Thanos had nothing in his arsenal that could trump Apokoliptian tech, or it's powerful allies. Plus bringing up the Thanos clones didn't help neither.
Thanos had tech that could travel through time,he had a massive space armada,remote controlled battleships,a synthetic gem that could destroy the universe,teleportation tech that could teleport from far distances right into his ship. He had characters such as Mangog,Fallen One,Reptyle the god,Primo,Omega(a being twcie as powerful as Galactus). I mean do you remember the crossover when Galactus came to Apokolips. He stomped them at his weakest.
I also showed how Thanos could make clones and change thier memories. The clones from infinity abyss were given direction its just Thanos wasnt the one who did it. So again Thanos would be the one this time and would have them all against Darkseid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He sent a clone against Asgard. Meaning he wanted it to attack Asgard and it nearly succeeded in taking it over. That was a clone. So Thanos could most ertainly send them against Darkseid. They are destructive but in a war who the hell cares as there will be a lot of destruction.Thanos had tech that could travel through time,he had a massive space armada,remote controlled battleships,a synthetic gem that could destroy the universe,teleportation tech that could teleport from far distances right into his ship. He had characters such as Mangog,Fallen One,Reptyle the god,Primo,Omega(a being twcie as powerful as Galactus). I mean do you remember the crossover when Galactus came to Apokolips. He stomped them at his weakest.
I also showed how Thanos could make clones and change thier memories. The clones from infinity abyss were given direction its just Thanos wasnt the one who did it. So again Thanos would be the one this time and would have them all against Darkseid.
The clone had prep time and a major power-up courtesy of Tarene.
And DS is much better at security than Odin. And the clones are uncontrollable, AS THANOS HIMSELF ADMITS. Your own character said he couldn't fix them and that they were worthless to him.
time travel? No point. Apokolips has the same tech, if not better. Armada? Nothing on-panel that comes close to the armies DS has fielded. Remote control ships? Again, nothing that impressive. Teleporting? 2 words. Boom Tube. And don't bring up the radiation barrier thing from DOTNG. Thanos's tech is a joke compared to New Gods tech and he has no idea how to block Boom tubes or Mother boxes.
The synthetic gem was a one time trick that he never was able to make again, and he was stopped by a motley crew of heroes. And if you want to bring up that kind of thing, Genesis box ftw.
Mangog? Dead, and he only allied with Thanos to attack Asgard. He won't get involved if there's no connection to Asgard.
Fallen One? A joke of a herald with little or no feats, besides getting whupped by Thanos.
Reptyl? DS has many many people who could take this guy. Not to mention it doesn't say much about Thanos that he had to kill someone to empower his pantheon, something DS does under his own power, with no boosters.
Don't know Primo.
Omega has ZERO feats that put him on Galactus level, besides a statement from Thanos, qualified by Genis, that puts him Galactusx2. He died from a freaking planet blowing up in his face. 😐
Crossover=non-canon. And DS staggered Galactus, so that arc goes two ways. Plus, given prep time, he could take Galactus. Thanos isn't that good.
You can't prove that the clones can be adjusted or used by Thanos, when Thanos himself contradicts you and says he can't do it.
And that prep feat against Ares that you like to bash? Thanos couldn't do that. DS imprisoned an abstract level being with his tech. Thanos has nothing even close to that level of technology. Same with the AM feat. Thanos could never accomplish those 2 feats, due to lack of personal power, and inferior technology.
and all this crazy tech? It's all powered by DS's personal power.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHere we go and yet another of the Darkseid fans comes for me here. I have been waiting for you.
The clone had prep time and a major power-up courtesy of Tarene.And DS is much better at security than Odin. And the clones are uncontrollable, AS THANOS HIMSELF ADMITS. Your own character said he couldn't fix them and that they were worthless to him.
time travel? No point. Apokolips has the same tech, if not better. Armada? Nothing on-panel that comes close to the armies DS has fielded. Remote control ships? Again, nothing that impressive. Teleporting? 2 words. Boom Tube. And don't bring up the radiation barrier thing from DOTNG. Thanos's tech is a joke compared to New Gods tech and he has no idea how to block Boom tubes or Mother boxes.
The synthetic gem was a one time trick that he never was able to make again, and he was stopped by a motley crew of heroes. And if you want to bring up that kind of thing, Genesis box ftw.
Mangog? Dead, and he only allied with Thanos to attack Asgard. He won't get involved if there's no connection to Asgard.
Fallen One? A joke of a herald with little or no feats, besides getting whupped by Thanos.
Reptyl? DS has many many people who could take this guy. Not to mention it doesn't say much about Thanos that he had to kill someone to empower his pantheon, something DS does under his own power, with no boosters.
Don't know Primo.
Omega has ZERO feats that put him on Galactus level, besides a statement from Thanos, qualified by Genis, that puts him Galactusx2. He died from a freaking planet blowing up in his face. 😐
Crossover=non-canon. And DS staggered Galactus, so that arc goes two ways. Plus, given prep time, he could take Galactus. Thanos isn't that good.
You can't prove that the clones can be adjusted or used by Thanos, when Thanos himself contradicts you and says he can't do it.
And that prep feat against Ares that you like to bash? Thanos couldn't do that. DS imprisoned an abstract level being with his tech. Thanos has nothing even close to that level of technology. Same with the AM feat. Thanos could never accomplish those 2 feats, due to lack of personal power, and inferior technology.
and all this crazy tech? It's all powered by DS's personal power.
The clones were destructive that is for sure. But Thanos did also admit that he successively sent one after Thor. This is the same type of scenario. He also can enlist the aid of Mangog who is above top tier and is a friggin beast. A clone was able to enlist him and you can bet damn sure he will be able to enlist him again. This is all about the kinds of characters that have been allies before and Mangog applies here.
You are telling me that Thanos couldnt put up some radiation barrier. I mean come on here. Thanos made a time machine on his own yet he cant block a boomtube from working with a radiation barrier. Cyborg easily took over Apokoliptian tech and used it against the new gods. No tech stopped him,nope it was Superman who gave Darkseid the time he needed to recover and then intervene. Thanos went up against someone who also had control over tech. He went up against Tyrant and got what he wanted and left when he wanted. He took the orb from Tyrant and learned about Tyrant's origin. Tyrant at no point sought revenge or even knew where to find Thanos.
The synthetic gem was made by Thanos while the genesis box was not used by Darkseid. So thus it does not apply here. Thanos was stopped but it wasnt just by a some heroes here and there. Warlocks ghost had to intervene to defeat him. Did you also miss the part where Chaos and Order were involved to and wanted Thanos defeated. Its funny you bring this up because just Cyborg and Doomsday defeated all of Apokolips and needed Supermans aid.
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It was a Thanos clone who had the power to make and grant godlike powers. He couldnt create the powers out of nowhere but could still make these godlike warriors.
Thanos created him and stated himself that he didnt have time to work out his kinks. I mean the FF4 and weaker opponents have defeated Galactus before so again with the forces allied against Omega and the separation of his ship made him susceptible to this kind of an attack. Thanos wouldnt lie about Omega's power he was himself out to kill him. So since hes his creator and since there is no point in him lying about Omega's power we take his word for it.
I never said that the crossover counted but that Galactus weakened and starving crushed his forces along with t he Silver Surfer. Their tech did shit to him. Trust me if the both had equal time and if Galactus was well fed and brought his un Darkseid would be toast. Remember on panel Doomsday was enough to beat down the whole planet even with all this tech that couldnt put a dent in him.
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I find it funny that you think Thanos has all this inferior technology and such. Thanos with tech and what not created a weapon that could very much be the end of the universe. He has created entire armadas as distractions alone. He created Omega a being more powerful than anything available to Darkseid. That trumps anything Darkseid has ever created.
Ok lets talk about Ares now since you brought him up.
He froze Ares because he knew when to strike. He had to do something because Ares proved he had Darkseid himself outprepped the entire time.
The Am thing was also due to Alexander Luthor and thus without him worthless and not capable of injuring him without Luthor being involved.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO, Pulling Hundreds of suns would take another sun to establish a gravity point to pull against. I find it funny that you tell me I need to go to highschool,and you don't realize that it would take far more energy to move the earth out of orbit than it would to destroy the planet. The Ipod has a weight established on earth. Take the same Ipod you mentioned and Put it on the sun and it's going to weight literally hundreds of times more. Now, Moving the earth in weightless space towards the sun would be far easier than trying to pull the earth out of orbit against the sun's pull. Thanks now. YOu have a merry new year.
This argument completely ignores centripetal force
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here we go and yet another of the Darkseid fans comes for me here. I have been waiting for you.The clones were destructive that is for sure. But Thanos did also admit that he successively sent one after Thor. This is the same type of scenario. He also can enlist the aid of Mangog who is above top tier and is a friggin beast. A clone was able to enlist him and you can bet damn sure he will be able to enlist him again. This is all about the kinds of characters that have been allies before and Mangog applies here.
You are telling me that Thanos couldnt put up some radiation barrier. I mean come on here. Thanos made a time machine on his own yet he cant block a boomtube from working with a radiation barrier. Cyborg easily took over Apokoliptian tech and used it against the new gods. No tech stopped him,nope it was Superman who gave Darkseid the time he needed to recover and then intervene. Thanos went up against someone who also had control over tech. He went up against Tyrant and got what he wanted and left when he wanted. He took the orb from Tyrant and learned about Tyrant's origin. Tyrant at no point sought revenge or even knew where to find Thanos.
The synthetic gem was made by Thanos while the genesis box was not used by Darkseid. So thus it does not apply here. Thanos was stopped but it wasnt just by a some heroes here and there. Warlocks ghost had to intervene to defeat him. Did you also miss the part where Chaos and Order were involved to and wanted Thanos defeated. Its funny you bring this up because just Cyborg and Doomsday defeated all of Apokolips and needed Supermans aid.
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It was a Thanos clone who had the power to make and grant godlike powers. He couldnt create the powers out of nowhere but could still make these godlike warriors.Thanos created him and stated himself that he didnt have time to work out his kinks. I mean the FF4 and weaker opponents have defeated Galactus before so again with the forces allied against Omega and the separation of his ship made him susceptible to this kind of an attack. Thanos wouldnt lie about Omega's power he was himself out to kill him. So since hes his creator and since there is no point in him lying about Omega's power we take his word for it.
I never said that the crossover counted but that Galactus weakened and starving crushed his forces along with t he Silver Surfer. Their tech did shit to him. Trust me if the both had equal time and if Galactus was well fed and brought his un Darkseid would be toast. Remember on panel Doomsday was enough to beat down the whole planet even with all this tech that couldnt put a dent in him.
😆I find it funny that you think Thanos has all this inferior technology and such. Thanos with tech and what not created a weapon that could very much be the end of the universe. He has created entire armadas as distractions alone. He created Omega a being more powerful than anything available to Darkseid. That trumps anything Darkseid has ever created.
Ok lets talk about Ares now since you brought him up.
He froze Ares because he knew when to strike. He had to do something because Ares proved he had Darkseid himself outprepped the entire time.The Am thing was also due to Alexander Luthor and thus without him worthless and not capable of injuring him without Luthor being involved.
To be clear, and I didn't think this was a serious argument or I would have addressed it in the actual thread, but Thanos created a device that, powered by the INFINITY GEMS, could destroy every star in the universe.
He didn't do it with his own tech, or anything even remotely like that.
Originally posted by DesaadUsing the gems in unison as the infinity gauntlet wouldnt be allowed but I cant see why this isnt allowed. The soul gem is allowed here and all of the other gems could be used to make this giant synthetic gem which Thanos made himself.
To be clear, and I didn't think this was a serious argument or I would have addressed it in the actual thread, but Thanos created a device that, powered by the INFINITY GEMS, could destroy every star in the universe.He didn't do it with his own tech, or anything even remotely like that.