Phoenix Respect Thread Remastered. (V. 20)

courtesy of herohq.com, jean's moveset in MUA2

A) Telekinetic Grip: Controllable move
B) Restraining Wave: Stuns foes with a mental blast
X) Pyrokine Blast: manifests a searing wave of psionic energy
Y) Phoenix’s Fury: Burns foes held immobile by telekinesis

Resurrection: + % chance to resurrect
Uncanny X-Men: + Extra Teamwork
Psionic Mastery: + % Extra Power Dmg
Combat Rush: + Stamina per enemy KO

Anti-Reg Specific
Fiery Strikes: + Extra Fire Dmg to Melee
No Mercy: + Extra HP per enemy KO

Will X-Man be in this one as well? Becuse I would make up a pure psi team, just for the hell of it.

sadly no, the full roster is on marvelultimatealliance.com

spoilers with characters and some of their movesets and passives here.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=951211&topic=51328744

Hey guys I love the Thread always has but if anyone has any scans of Jean that could be used to update the thread such as from the 80's, 90's and 2000's I think it would be great Jean has alot of feat however most people thinks that w/o the PF she's weak likely attributed to the 90's cartoon I just think some great Jean scans sans the PF could boost Jean greatly.

Uncanny X-Men 134
Humbling Mastermind
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Uncanny X-Men 135
Dark Phoenix destroying a planet.
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You guys remember all this? Yeah well my theory is now proven to be a fact.

Originally posted by "Id"
[B]Phoenix Force a Multiversal Power.
Ok some of you remember, how Cube beings or even Odin in the mist of a fight effected the multiverse in one form or another (Please correct me on Odin, if I am wrong). And according to Kubic for all its omnipotent powers, Celestials simply operate on a higher level's of Omnipotence beyond him.

Well I am not sure about many of you, but I regard Phoenix above a Celestial. Its exact ranking, is not really an issue (that’s more or less an opinion of mine and yours). And I really hate ABC logic, like the one stated by Kubic or matching up characters to lesser beings who show grander displays. So I am going to disregard Kubic comments, and restrain from quantifying Odin feat. Regardless, the other cosmics (Death, Eternity, The Watcher) Regard Phoenix as a Primal Force of the Universe, through comic book Narration it has bin regarded as the Ultimate Primal Force.

Lets Begin with the first piece of evidence. M’Kran Crystal.
U. X-Men #108
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Originally it was a Neutron Galaxy and the treat of its energy release would reek the destruction of the universe. However this has bin retconed as the Nexus of Realties and its devastation threaten the entire Multiverse.[ AoA scan.] Yes she had help, her team mates life force not only help her anchor herself, but the spiritual support kept her motivated to endure. And a mighty task, since she needed to re-energize and nit the Lattice Fields. In case nobody noticed, the Latice Fields are composed of anti-energy that keeps the Multiversal energies of the M”Kran crystal at bay. Naturally the Phoenix was going to suffer from exposing herself to the Lattice Fields.

Excalibur: Weird War 3
This special takes place after Excalibur v1 #10

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When Rachael traveled to another reality and back. It left a funnel open between the two realities. What we see shortly after, are two worlds merging into one. The Phoenix goes on, restore the two worlds and close the funnel.

Excalibur v1 #14
In another Earth, Impossible Man created a silly version of 616 Earth. Galactus come over and decides that these actions are a threat to the entire Omniverse. Before he leaves, Galactus remarks that Impossible Man is almost as big as a threat as the Phoenix.


Excalibur v1 #50
The Phoenix uses its power, to project the tower across the Multiverse.

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New X-Men #154
As you may know, the Phoenix’(s), has accesses to their own dimension outside space/time/reality. The White Hot Room. Within the WHR various activities takes place but its mostly referred as Phoenix Work. Well here is one of the more bigger jobs that took place. Phoenix can amputate the future of an entire reality and atomically control that structure.[ New X-Men #154 page 20, panel one.]

But wait, it gets better, we also get to see the manifestation of the rest of 616 Universe, and like the comic states. Total Atomic Control through Telekinesis. [ #154 page 21]

So yes in HCT you see, how the Phoenix interacted with the 616 universe, that lead to the creation of reality 15104.

What If: The X-Men Lost Inferno
Some of you may debunk this because it’s a non cannon material to the 616 continuality. But you have to keep in mind it is part of Marvel continuality, and the M Body of the LT, is the same LT being projected across the Multiverse.

Anyhow, narration comments that Phoenix with a Host is much to much danger to the Multiverse.

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What If X-Men: Rise and Fall of the Shi’Ar Empire
Again some of you may dismiss this like the above. However you if follow marvel mythos, The White Hoot Room, is the center point the meeting place to the door way that is M’Kran Crystal. Any how its hinted that Vulcan gains the Phoenix Force, and goes on to lay waste the rest of the Phoenix Corps.
What's interesting is the endings, it was Jean who appeared at the end. It was Jean who acted out as the Phoenix Conscious. It was Jean who held back its powers against her friends and family. And it was Jean who initially granted Vulcan the Phoenix powers. And Jean is wearing the infamous white garment.

If we follow the Phoenix mythos, there is only one White Phoenix of the Crown. And at the time of this What IF, WPotC was in the White Hoot Room. So it serves to show that once again, a Phoenix is capable of destroying a Universe (it didn’t come to that), easily obliterating opposition (Shi’Ar Empire, Annihilation Wave, the Kree, Galaxies etc..). But the most interesting is, re-affirming that WPotC holds over the rest of the Phoenix Avatar’s. [/B]

The Phoenix Force is a psychic-energy elemental. Allegedly, it is the repository of the psionic energies of the multiverse, all roiling inside one awesome entity.
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Originally posted by "Id"

What If X-Men: Rise and Fall of the Shi’Ar Empire
Again some of you may dismiss this like the above. However you if follow marvel mythos, The White Hoot Room, is the center point the meeting place to the door way that is M’Kran Crystal. Any how its hinted that Vulcan gains the Phoenix Force, and goes on to lay waste the rest of the Phoenix Corps.
What's interesting is the endings, it was Jean who appeared at the end. It was Jean who acted out as the Phoenix Conscious. It was Jean who held back its powers against her friends and family. And it was Jean who initially granted Vulcan the Phoenix powers. And Jean is wearing the infamous white garment.

If we follow the Phoenix mythos, there is only one White Phoenix of the Crown. And at the time of this What IF, WPotC was in the White Hoot Room. So it serves to show that once again, a Phoenix is capable of destroying a Universe (it didn’t come to that), easily obliterating opposition (Shi’Ar Empire, Annihilation Wave, the Kree, Galaxies etc..). But the most interesting is, re-affirming that WPotC holds over the rest of the Phoenix Avatar’s.

More on this because it really has some sick feats.

Rachel tells Gabriel that his rage is causing him to lose control which will not only consume him but all of reality:

Vulcan releases his fury upon the Shiar. Notice Gladiator being incinerated in the bottom right panel:

The Force simultaneously destroys all the planets in that solar system:

Nova alerts Ronan that it has destroyed everything including Annihilus & one third of the Annihilation wave just before Ronan himself meets the same fate. A Watcher says that the Kree empire is the 7th such galaxy that has been consumed:

Now for some AvX stuff.

ARRIVAL

Scott's thoughts on the subject suggest that the Phoenix is the savior to the mutant race. It has come to right the wrongs of Wanda erasing 99.9% of the mutant population. Hope must be prepared to accept the Force and start the rebirth process.

PLANET DESTRUCTION

Nova and Terrax have their fight interrupted by the approaching PF. Nova seemingly flees through a wormhole abandoning Terrax, (a high herald) who's obliterated along with the planet. Only his scythe remains.

The Force destroyed many planets along its journey. So many that aliens were placing bets on which one would be next:

Of course races of beings were wiped out as well as the planets themselves.

PF vs THOR

The continuity of these fights is kinda screwed up & hard to place but here's the order in which they occurred.

Secret Avengers #26

Thor is 1 shot as he and the Avengers attempt to tame it. Mjolnir is ineffective.

Avengers #26

Round 2 has Thor go out and siphon energy from the Force again after Mjolnir had done so on its own accord previously. Now Thor is able to clip one of its wings but still succumbs to another 1 shot. One thing to remember is that Terrax was vaporized and Nova almost killed himself trying to escape in non combat situations with the Force so these Thor showings aren't low by any means.

AvX 4

In this fight we see Thor toss Mjolnir through the Phoenix then it busts a planet.Dispite what Hickman said in a interview, there is no evidence of the hammer making contact nor is there any evidence of the PF being hurt all.

Later toward the end of the issue, the Force sends Thor crashing into the moon.

Phoenix powered Captain Marvel vs Thor

Secret Avengers #27

This fight is worthy since this "amp" is tied to the Force. Surprisingly, Beast gets 1 shot and gets up in a few pages.

Conformation that Captain Marvel was energized by the Phoenix Force:

After the Phoenix Force was split into 5 separate components of energy by Tonys Phoenix buster armor, it then inhabited the bodies of the current Phoenix Five.

Right after the power up, Scott blows away the Avengers. Rulk and Thing among this group:

Since acquiring these powers, abilities have been exhibited such as telekinesis (Colossus levitating nuclear missiles/Namor raising multiple submerged ships), but just after dematerializing Tonys armor, the biggest feat as of yet is Scott stopping a Mjolnir strike with 1 finger before 1 shotting Thor again. Yes you read that correctly. ONE FINGER!

Originally posted by Sundipped
After the Phoenix Force was split into 5 separate components of energy by Tonys Phoenix buster armor, it then inhabited the bodies of the current Phoenix Five.

Right after the power up, Scott blows away the Avengers. Rulk and Thing among this group:

Since acquiring these powers, abilities have been exhibited such as telekinesis (Colossus levitating nuclear missiles/Namor raising multiple submerged ships), but just after dematerializing Tonys armor, the biggest feat as of yet is Scott stopping a Mjolnir strike with 1 finger before 1 shotting Thor again. Yes you read that correctly. [B]ONE FINGER!

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Didn't Scott display telepathy as well , when he was conversing with Xavier at the start of #5 ?

^^
Yep but it was at the beginning of issue 6.

Scott - "I know why you've come. I can see it in your mind."

Originally posted by Sundipped
^^
Yep but it was at the beginning of issue 6.

Scott - "I know why you've come. I can see it in your mind."

Sorry , my bad , I confused # 5 with # 6 .

Secret Avengers # 28

The Force comes back to Hala to reclaim its energy used to empower CM. The Force destroys some Kree ships and thwarts Carol going Binary + Thors' attempt at bfr using a portal. CM relinquishes the power & the Force is on its way. Oh yeah... Thor is 1 shot again:

AvX #7

PF Magik leads a team against the Avengers. She's owned by Wanda. Clint hits PF Emma with a arrow & pays the ultimate price:

PF Namor vs Scarlett Witch

Wanda clearly has the upper hand. She even shows manipulation of matter down to sub atomic level by rearranging Namor's face.

During these battles, Tony collected data from Wandas powers as well as the PF and found they had similar properties. Hence the reason she was so effective.