people keep referring to colossus having a better durability than hercules are the any proof.
According to stats the sentry possessed strength and durability on par with hercules and thor. time and time again hercules have proof his durability is among the best in marvel and yet people keep saying colossus durability is better.
Hercules have taken 50 caliber bullet without even noticing it in his new mini. He is immue to warlock karma blast, he have taken powerful energy blast from the possessor and elder of the universe with little or no damage and beaten him twice taken powerful energy blast from powerful beings like the beyonder,zeus,thor,firelord and many more without any major injury so how can colossus be more durable than hercules with no real durability feat
Originally posted by hunbu04
people keep referring to colossus having a better durability than hercules are the any proof.
According to stats the sentry possessed strength and durability on par with hercules and thor. time and time again hercules have proof his durability is among the best in marvel and yet people keep saying colossus durability is better.
Hercules have taken 50 caliber bullet without even noticing it in his new mini. He is immue to warlock karma blast, he have taken powerful energy blast from the possessor and elder of the universe with little or no damage and beaten him twice taken powerful energy blast from powerful beings like the beyonder,zeus,thor,firelord and many more without any major injury so how can colossus be more durable than hercules with no real durability feat
The big problem is that Colossus does not have nearly as many showings as many other powerhouses, which is a real disappointment really.
But if you want a recent example, we can use the World War Hulk instances. You remember Herc's face after only a few punches from Hulk? Horribly bloody and bruised. And now remember Colossus after getting knocked around by Hulk? Unless my memory is shot, Colossus had no damaging marks to show for it, save for the crushed hands.
Colossus can also take 50 caliber bullets to his EYES without even a scratch. He's also immune to a few forms of magic, all sorts of radiation, electricution, energy projection, extremely high temperatures, etc., etc.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
The big problem is that Colossus does not have nearly as many showings as many other powerhouses, which is a real disappointment really.But if you want a recent example, we can use the World War Hulk instances. You remember Herc's face after only a few punches from Hulk? Horribly bloody and bruised. And now remember Colossus after getting knocked around by Hulk? Unless my memory is shot, Colossus had no damaging marks to show for it, save for the crushed hands.
Colossus can also take 50 caliber bullets to his EYES without even a scratch. He's also immune to a few forms of magic, all sorts of radiation, electricution, energy projection, extremely high temperatures, etc., etc.
I see your point however, when Hercules was gettting smacked by Hulk he wasn't really fighting back, he was basically trying to reason with Hulk in order to calm him down. On the other hand when Colossus was fighting Hulk he was pissed due to the whole issue with Xavier. Colossus was fighting with purpose and adrenaline. Furthermore, Colossus wasnt alone. Hulk was taking on other X-Men including the New X-men therefore, Colossus wasn't taking a direct all out assault from the Hulk. He did get his hands crushed though which is just as bad if not worse than some cuts and bruises on your face.
Originally posted by nimbus006Trying to reason with somebody or not fighting back does not amp up your durbailty does it? A punch to the face is a punch to the face regardless if you're defending yourself or not.
I see your point however, when Hercules was gettting smacked by Hulk he wasn't really fighting back, he was basically trying to reason with Hulk in order to calm him down. On the other hand when Colossus was fighting Hulk he was pissed due to the whole issue with Xavier. Colossus was fighting with purpose and adrenaline. Furthermore, Colossus wasnt alone. Hulk was taking on other X-Men including the New X-men therefore, Colossus wasn't taking a direct all out assault from the Hulk. He did get his hands crushed though which is just as bad if not worse than some cuts and bruises on your face.
Originally posted by nimbus006That's not a accurate comparison. Punching somebody is not the same as breaking somebodies arm. Hulk punched Colossus, Hulk punched Hercules, Hulk bent Colossus' arms, Hulk DIT NOT attempt to bend Hercules' arms. See my point?
He did get his hands crushed though which is just as bad if not worse than some cuts and bruises on your face.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Trying to reason with somebody or not fighting back does not amp up your durbailty does it? A punch to the face is a punch to the face regardless if you're defending yourself or not.
I don't think your understanding what Im trying to say. The reason Hercules face was so batterred was b/c he wasn't really fighting back. He was letting himself be hit. When your fighting back adrenaline does amp your durability. It can make blows feel less impactful, and help you keep fighting. Moreover, when your fighting back you can maneuver and position yourself in order to avoid direct shots. In Hercs case he was just standing there without either of these two factors helping him.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That's not a accurate comparison. Punching somebody is not the same as breaking somebodies arm. Hulk punched Colossus, Hulk punched Hercules, Hulk bent Colossus' arms, Hulk DIT NOT attempt to bend Hercules' arms. See my point?
Yea i do, but having your arms broken is still a knock on ones durability. I could say Hulk did not attempt to pound Colossus face in as he did to Herc which is why his face didnt recieive as much punishment as Hercs.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I was about to say the same thing, you just beat me to it. 👆
Durability can be loosely be defined as how resistant one is to punishment, right? Would you not say when your defenseless you are less resistant to an assault than when your prepared and actually defending yourself.