Originally posted by Punkyhermy
Muhammad, and because of his lingering influence the model for interacial-cultural-religious tolerance that was Islamic Spain. An empire that lasted even longer than the Roman Empire.Jalaluddin Rumi, the thirteen century turkish muslim poet who used his talent to promote the idea of universal message of love; "I am neither of the East or the West, no boundaries exist in my breast." 😊
ignorance is a prevalent disease. but a teeensy bit of research usually can cure it.🙄
Er what they did in Islamic Spain was different to What Mohammed did. In Spain the muslims drew pictures and had dancing girls. This is something that Mohammed did not allow, so no Islamic Spain was not based on what Moahmmed did. Hell if they followed what Mohammed did they would have forced their beliefs on the inhabitants.
Originally posted by Punkyhermy
Akbar the Great, the lengendary Mughal king was well known becaues of his interfaith tolerance. He had made a Hindu woman his Queen to drive his point about tolerance and acceptance home.
Ermm doesnt it say in the Quran that mulsims cant marry pagans? Akbar may ahve been a tolerant muslim but he didnt follow the teachings of Mohammed. 😐
Originally posted by Punkyhermy
But conquering doesn't equal to meaning the spread of Islam by the sword. The latter would be more accurate if the belief system was forced onto the peoples conquered. Which they never were. Did they invade and expand their territory? Yes. Did they let the conquered people practice their own faiths and treat them with respect and kindess? Heck yes.
Yeah? So why is it when the pagans asked Mohammed to keep his religon to himself and stop shoving it down their throats he refused to stop? Sounds pretty reasonable to me "you keep your religon to yourself i'll keep my religon to myself".....oh yeah what does it say about Abu Talib the guy who protected Mohammed from the pagans? Doesnt it say that he went to hell because he didnt accept Islam?
Oh yeah didnt Mohammed smash the idols of the pagans? Yeah Mohammed stated when he entered Mecca with is army that he was not going to kill them......and then proceeded to smash the idols of the gods that they had been worshipping for hundreds of years.
Smashing idols = letting people believe what they want. 😬
Originally posted by Alfheim
The religoin can be violent but the people dont have to be. islam was not created to make peace.
Contrary to popular belief, Islam is a peaceful religion.
People assume it isn't cause of what CNN (the C.ommunist C.able N.etwork) and the Fox (Faux) News Channel shoves down viewers throats daily about how malevolent Islam and it's practitioners/supporters are based on like 1 percent of the religions pop. Yet there's hardly any focus on the 1 billion + Muslims on the planet that don't practice/support Islamofacism.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Contrary to popular belief, Islam is a peaceful religion.People assume it isn't cause of what CNN (the C.ommunist C.able N.etwork) and the Fox (Faux) News Channel shoves down viewers throats daily about how malevolent Islam and it's practitioners/supporters are based on like 1 percent of the religions pop. Yet there's hardly any focus on the 1 billion + Muslims on the planet that don't practice/support Islamofacism.
The religon is what you make it, but Mohammed created Islam for his own personal desires not for the benefit of society. 😐
Originally posted by Melcórë
Did this assassination actually surprise anyone?
Nope, it was only a matter of time.
I wonder who was behind it.
Ok they always blame "Muslim extremists" and quote some vague Al-Qaeda leader who says "we did it". But come on!!! surely people arn´t that gullable.
Every time something happens they blame Al-Qaeda.
I suspect there´s more to this than meats the eye.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Nope, it was only a matter of time.I wonder who was behind it.
Ok they always blame "Muslim extremists" and quote some vague Al-Qaeda leader who says "we did it". But come on!!! surely people arn´t that gullable.
Every time something happens they blame Al-Qaeda.
I suspect there´s more to this than meats the eye.
You can say that again. Its always Al ****ing Qaeda.
I am unfamiliar with coffins in the muslim world, but doesn't that box they passed around outside the hospital, the one with her body in it, look like it was made from found boards and a cafeteria door? It's got a little window in it, so you could see someone coming with a tray.
As for the assassination, it seems like someone in Pakistan doesn't want us messing around in their country.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
Nope, it was only a matter of time.I wonder who was behind it.
Ok they always blame "Muslim extremists" and quote some vague Al-Qaeda leader who says "we did it". But come on!!! surely people arn´t that gullable.
Every time something happens they blame Al-Qaeda.
I suspect there´s more to this than meats the eye.
Co-signed but that the president did it I myself find unlikely since he actually wanted her to be a part of his regime if he won the election (not sure about her answer to the proposition though)
well, i dont make a habit of insulting the dead{unless sufficient time has passed} but bhutto stole more from pakistan than any other government{with the exeption of musharraf maybe} in the history of the company. her KNOWN exploits in cash alone easily reach over 5 billion dollars, and the real figure is much muhc much higher. she was an active force for corruption and discord and really, did nothing for her people, and also promoted many criminal organisation etc for personal benefits as well as taking inernational brides n what not. sum wud say that such a death was too easy a way for her to leave this world{specially, seeing that she died trying to get reelected and stealiong MORE resources from the country, kinda ironic}.
as far as the culprits go, it is probably the chaudri brothers. with sum involvement of musharraf possibly. dun really think america wud have a hand as the usually do, she was too pro america for that to happen.