DBZ charecter physical stats & limits

i was wondering how to gaugu the physical attributes of dbz charecters from the manga its so damn inconsistent! please provide refernce to the source you are stating your information from

ok so ppl discuss

1) how strong are dbz charecters physically , villains heroes,humans alike include hercule ?

i have seen some stupid stuff ... krillin chuck a boulder with ease ,lift a small plane or small capsule vehicle... goku struggle to lift 10 tons in weighted trainging bands and gohan lift a jet liner as saiyaman?

how fast can tehy fly ,move,run? speed of sound /mach 5 /mach 10 ? speed of light?!!

i have seen raditz catch bullets! (a bullets fired froma shot gun like in this case exceeds the speed of sound and moves at roughly mach 2 1538mph)

how durable are they? are they bulletproof, stab proof ?

can they stand a nuke? hydrogen bomd?atom bomb?

you may use this to set parameters

goku

intelligence - genius(when fighting related)

strength - incalculable

speed - orbital velocity

flight speed - sub lightspeed

water speed- maximum

stamina - superhuman-metahuman in between those 2 id say

durability - metahuman

agility- metahuman

reflexs- superhuman

Originally posted by chickenlover98
goku

intelligence - genius(when fighting related)

strength - incalculable

speed - orbital velocity

flight speed - sub lightspeed

water speed- maximum

stamina - superhuman-metahuman in between those 2 id say

durability - metahuman

agility- metahuman

reflexs- superhuman

i dont want to question what you have chosen but do you have any feats/references to back up those chosen stats? and what about the human charecters like kuririn

and what of their strength in base forms not super saiyan?

IMO, for Goku.

Intel: Gifted on fighting, not quite genius, I think Vegeta more fits that.

Strength: In base, class 25 or 50, if we go into SSJ3 however, prolly incalculable based on the way you're using the term.

Speed: Supersonic IMO, they are shown to be faster than bullets, which>speed of sound.

Flight speed: Orbital or Escape Velocity.

Water Speed: Don't know...but they can fly underwater...

Stamina: Superhuman at best, they do get tired in high speed fights which don't equal a day.

Durability: Superhuman, he doesn't reach metahuman because he is susceptible to diseases, but he can tank nuke level blasts.

Agility: Super-metahuman.

Reflexes: If we count IT, it is metahuman, if not, superhuman.

Originally posted by ankur29
i dont want to question what you have chosen but do you have any feats/references to back up those chosen stats? and what about the human charecters like kuririn

and what of their strength in base forms not super saiyan?

well unfortunately some of those stats are based on ssj3. and this also brings us back to the which is stronger goku ssj3 or ssj3 gotenks.(hint: goku) gotenks flew around the world like 8 in a minute, then slept for 29 minutes. so speed = around lightspeed. goku is still a lil faster, but not quite as fast as light

Mystic Gohan is probably the most powerful non-fused character in the show

Intelligence : Genius. He is very intelligent especially when it comes to fighting. People don't consider him that smart, but there's a difference between intelligence and knowledge. And since he pretty much grew up in a jungle, the lack of the former is understandable.

Strength : Incalculable (far in excess of 100 tons). Even in DB, both Piccolo and Master Roshi have proven capable of destroying the moon while later in the story attacks have been stated to be able to destroy planets. Yet there are characters who effortsley resist this type of damage so in order for them to be affected by physicall attacks, those have to keep up with the energy attacks. Or perhaps somebody wants to suggest that there characters who take blasts that have such destructive capability without much effort yet they are affected by physical attacks from characters who struggle with 10 tons and such ? 🙂

Speed : Orbital Velocity (Assuming that the only options are those on the list)

Flight Speed : Light Speed or beyond. Based on Gotenks's showing and powerlevel increase consideration.

Stamina : It depends on the SSJ stage.

Durability : Based on the classification there, which implies regeneration and such, it isn't that high in the ranking. But based on how much he can take, it's very impressive. By the end of DBZ he can take multiple Solar System destroying blasts.

Agility : Metahuman

Reflexes : Super/Metahuman

Originally posted by superkronick92
Mystic Gohan is probably the most powerful non-fused character in the show

True and I'm a Goku fanboy.

Mystic Gohan

Intelligence-Genius

Strength- Class 100

Speed- Orbital Velocity

Flight Speed- Orbital Velocity

Water Speed- Superhuman

Stamina- Enhanced Human

Durability- Superhuman

Agility- Superhuman

Reflexes- Enhanced Human

IMO

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
[b]Durability : Based on the classification there, which implies regeneration and such, it isn't that high in the ranking. But based on how much he can take, it's very impressive. By the end of DBZ he can take multiple Solar System destroying blasts.
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One thing that pissed me off was the fact that the top Z fighters still seemed unable to handle lava.😬 I don't know about the latter part of DBZ, but it was obvious SSJ Goku couldn't handle the lava touching his bare skin on Namek.

Well, I'm not sure any DBZ character, actually ever took a Planet Busting Attack and lived, but hey, it does have a lot of inconsistencies.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Well, I'm not sure any DBZ character, actually ever took a Planet Busting Attack and lived, but hey, it does have a lot of inconsistencies.

Goku deflected a PBA when he was fighting Vegeta at the beginning of DBZ. By the time he landed on Namek, he would have been able to knock Vegeta's beam back with one hand. And you're 100 percent right about this delightful show's inconsistencies.

I'm sorry but what's a PBA? 😮

Originally posted by superkronick92
I'm sorry but what's a PBA? 😮

Planet Busting Attack. 😛 In other words capable of destroying your Earth sized planetary body.

Man, I feel retarded, but anyway, I don't think it was a PBA because Goku can still get hurt by generic Ki blasts later in the series that cause no notable damage to the surroundings.

Originally posted by superkronick92
Man, I feel retarded, but anyway, I don't think it was a PBA because Goku can still get hurt by generic Ki blasts later in the series that cause no notable damage to the surroundings.

Mmm... But Vegeta said it was capable of destroying the planet. Yeah, he could have been lying, but I doubt it. It was a PBA because Master Roshi destroyed the moon (1/6 of Earth's size) during the 21st Tenakaichi Boudakai and his power level was in the very low hundreds. Vegeta was more than 100 times stronger than Roshi when he arrived on Earth, so I think it was a PBA.

True, DBZ villains exaggerate all the time. The rest is a combination of inconsistencies and PIS for the sake of plot

Originally posted by superkronick92
True, DBZ villains exaggerate all the time. The rest is a combination of inconsistencies and PIS for the sake of plot

It gets annoying, bro. Seriously. SSJ3 Goku throwing ki blasts that create small craters on a planet, is ridiculous. I don't care how 'concentrated' they are or how much control any of the Z fighters exercise over their energy blasts.

EXaaaactly, so this leads me to believe they can output more energy then they themselves can be hit with. Basically, they can dish it out but they can't take it.

Originally posted by superkronick92
EXaaaactly, so this leads me to believe they can output more energy then they themselves can be hit with. Basically, they can dish it out but they can't take it.

That's what I think. Like how injured SSJ2 Gohan's Father/Son Kamehameha would have killed him if he took it head on.