DBZ charecter physical stats & limits

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Originally posted by superkronick92
Mystic Gohan

Intelligence-Genius

Strength- Class 100

Speed- Orbital Velocity

Flight Speed- Orbital Velocity

Water Speed- Superhuman

Stamina- Enhanced Human

Durability- Superhuman

Agility- Superhuman

Reflexes- Enhanced Human

IMO

mystic gohan is not stronger than goku. you keep saying it, yet have really no evidence to prove it. how ever their strenght FAR exceeds class 100. goku EASILY EASILY lifed 40 tons. wait scratch that wore 40 tons and kept moving extremely fast. and that was ssj 1. we never found out his true limit. now your saying that mystic gohan is stronger than ssj 3 and your saying he's class 100? PSSSSSSSSHHHH. talk about inconsistencies

Mystic Gohan>>SS3 Goku

Originally posted by chickenlover98
mystic gohan is not stronger than goku. you keep saying it, yet have really no evidence to prove it. how ever their strenght FAR exceeds class 100. goku EASILY EASILY lifed 40 tons. wait scratch that wore 40 tons and kept moving extremely fast. and that was ssj 1. we never found out his true limit. now your saying that mystic gohan is stronger than ssj 3 and your saying he's class 100? PSSSSSSSSHHHH. talk about inconsistencies

I hate to admit, but it's true. And I mean I REAALLLLY hate to admit it, but Mystic Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Maybe if I sit on my ass for 24 hours and have an old, crazy guy dance and sing around me, I'll reach my full potential. Beats the shit out of weight training and cardio.

LOL, I've been there, it's a common misconception that the main character has to be the strongest in the series.

Originally Akira Toryama was going to make Gohan the main character and leave Goku out of it, but due to popular demand he didn't.

Making Gohan the strongest, I think, was AK's nod to what was originally going to happen

Originally posted by superkronick92
LOL, I've been there, it's a common misconception that the main character has to be the strongest in the series.

Originally Akira Toryama was going to make Gohan the main character and leave Goku out of it, but due to popular demand he didn't.

Making Gohan the strongest, I think, was AK's nod to what was originally going to happen

i know goku wasgoing to be killed off. everyone knew it once gohan was in highschool and such but there was such an uproar that gohan was the main char. and THERE IS NO PROOF he's stronger. how many times must i say it, goku let the other Z fighters handle it. he didnt want to be earths protecter. thats why he seemed weak. to make them do it. he was actually stronger than them all

Originally posted by chickenlover98
i know goku wasgoing to be killed off. everyone knew it once gohan was in highschool and such but there was such an uproar that gohan was the main char. and THERE IS NO PROOF he's stronger. how many times must i say it, goku let the other Z fighters handle it. he didnt want to be earths protecter. thats why he seemed weak. to make them do it. he was actually stronger than them all

He fuc-ked Super Buu up, badly. Super Buu could not land one hit, and Gohan didn't fire on ki blast. Also, it was said that Super Buu would be more than a match for Goku and Vegeta. I don't know if Goku meant if they both fought him at SSJ2 or if Goku fought at SSJ3 and Vegeta at SSJ2. I'll show you my DBZ PL's when I'm done with them.
P.S. Goku still pwns everybody anyway.

I think Goku didn't go SS3 in that fight because he knew it would just waste energy

Originally posted by superkronick92
I think Goku didn't go SS3 in that fight because he knew it would just waste energy

cause goku needed that energy for later right. to do what? nothing. he didnt go ssj 3 so that vegeta would have a point. he could have went ssj3 and pwned buu. it is completely nonsensical that he didnt. it was PIS

Super Buu still would have beat him at SS3,

Mystic Gohan>>>>>>>>Super Buu>SS3 Gotenks>SS3 Goku

DBZ Power Level listings (subject to change): By Grinning Goku
Disclaimer: I’m basing these power levels off what was seen in the manga and anime (I’m talking feats of characters and what not). Do not bash my list. I’ve labored over latter half of it. The Vegeta saga and most of the Freeza saga power levels were set in stone by Akira Toriyama.

Saiyan/Vegeta Saga Power Levels

Farmer w/ shotgun - 5
Turtle - .001
Master Roshi - 167
Krillen - 216
Son Goku - 320
w/o weighted clothing - 416
Kamehameha - 1000
Piccolo - 305
w/o weighted clothing - 408
special beam cannon - 1330
2nd try - 1440
Son Gohan -1 to 710
Son Gohan enraged - 1,350
Raditz - 1,200

Yajirobe - 200
Yamcha - 232
after training - 1,530
Krillin (after training) - 1,650
Tien - 280
after training - 1,810
Chao-Tzu (after training) - 1,230
Son Gohan - 1,400
Son Gohan’s Masenko (enraged) - 3,000
Oozaru - 14,000
Piccolo - 2,500
Saibamen – 1,200 each
*Nappa - 4,500
Son Goku - 5,000
*Son Goku powered up (sans Kaioken) - 9,000+
Kaioken x2 - 18,000
Kaioken x3 - 26,000
Kaioken x4 + kamehameha - 38,000
Vegeta - 18,000
Gallick Gun - 32,000
Oozaru - 180,000

*I know that 4,000 is Nappa’s official/perennial rating, but I think his power level was slightly greater than that. He simply knocked away Son Gohan’s Masenko. And we are all familiar with the famous phrase “It’s over 9,000!!!” which is why I put Son Goku’s P.L. after powering up at 9,000 plus. P.S. Also I don’t think Goku started using the Kaioken attack until he darted after Nappa.
Saiyan/Vegeta Saga Power Levels (Aftermath)
Son Goku (healed) – 15,000
Son Gohan (healed) – 2,800
Krillin – 2,000

Namek/Frieza Saga

*Frieza's two Henchmen -500 each
Cui - 18,770
Dodoria - 21,000
Zarbon - 22,500
Zarbon transformed - 30,000
Gohan - 2,800
after Guru - 24,000
Krillin - 2,000
after Guru - 19,000
Vegeta - 24,000
*Vegeta after Zarbon battle - 35,000+
Namekian Warriors - 800 to 7,500
*The first two guys that Gohan and Krillin encounter were pretty weak. They died after one kick a piece. So I put them at 500 at the most.

*Guldo - 10,000+
Recoome - 50,000+
Burter - 60,000
Jeice - 65,000
Ginyu - 90,000
Ginyu’s max - 120,000
In Goku - 23,000
Gohan - 24,000
Krillin – 19,000
Vegeta (powered up vs. Recoome) - 40,000 (Might not have given his all against Zarbon the 2nd time).
*Vegeta after Recoome battle - 95,000
* Vegeta after Ginyu battle – 180,000+???
Goku - 90,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Gohan (after Senzu) - 50,000
Krillin (after senzu) - 23,000
Nail - 42,000

*Guldo got owned pretty easily by Vegeta here. He’s really only on the force because of his Time Freezing/Telekinetic abilities. Also it’s safe to assume that either Gohan or Krillin could have beaten Guldo fairly easily as well. Now, I’m very confused about Vegeta’s power level after the Ginyu force battle. After he defeats a severely weakened Ginyu, he rests and then confronts Freeza and appears to be his equal. WTF, right? If we really take a look at this it would mean that Vegeta’s power level went from about 85,000-90,000 to 450,000-500,000 in a matter of minutes to hours (which I find simply impossible considering that Goku was at the same level when he arrived and only jumped to 300,000 after he healed up). Either Freeza was lying about his power level in his first form (which I doubt), or he was holding back. So, I’m gonna use my own discretion. Feel free to comment/correct.

Frieza - 530,000
2nd form – 1,000,950-1,005,000 (Frieza says his P.L. is over one million, but he could been exaggerating a bit as many DBZ villains tend to, but I gave him a slight benefit of the doubt.)
3rd form - 1,250,000
Final form - 1,350,000
50% - 6,700,000
70% - 9,450,000
100% - 13,500,000
Battle worn - 11,000,000 and dropping ( I think Frieza was kind of close to SSJ Son Goku’s full power level, which is why I ditched the 12,000,000 that I usually see on DBZ websites).
Krillin - 23,000
Son Gohan - 50,000
1st enraged – 950,000
after Dende's heal - 200,000
2nd enraged (Masenko) - 1,200,000
3rd enraged - 2,500,000 (I think this is when he hits Freeza when he thinks he killed his father. Freeza looked like he went back down to 50 -25 percent of his full power which would translate into 6,700,000 to 3,375,000 or so. And he lets Gohan hit him or is caught off guard iirc).
Vegeta (full power) – 250,000 - 300,000+???
After Dende's heal - 1,100,000
after revival - 1,550,000
Piccolo before fusion with Nail – 80,000 (est.)
Piccolo after fusion - 860,000
Piccolo w/o weighted clothing - 1,002,500
After Dende's heal - 1,040,000
Son Goku - 300,000
Kaioken x5 - 1,500,000 (used naturally throughout early Frieza fight)
Kaioken x10 - 3,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 6,000,000
Spirit Bomb - 10,000,000 (Wasn’t very strong. Namek was not a lush planet and the surrounding planets Goku drew spirit energy from looked even more lackluster.)
Super Saiyan - 15,000,000

Note: There are no officially listed power levels after this saga. Anything you read from here on in are simply educated guesses.

Frieza's higher henchmen - 7,500 each
*Mecha Frieza - 9,500,000+ (I’ve read mixed opinions about the ‘Furiza Bot.’ Some say the Z fighters who were on Namek e.g. Gohan, Krillin said Frieza’s ki was greater than on Namek, while others said Gohan said “his ki gets even stronger” when Yamcha asks him if all that energy is Frieza’s.)
King Cold - 11,175,000 (His ki is said to be similar to Frieza’s ki in terms of power so that could be anywhere between 10,000,000 and 13,500,000 so that’s exactly where I’ll put him).
Trunks (suppressed) - 5
Full power - 1,650,000
Super Saiyan - 17,000,000
Son Goku - 2,450,000
Super Saiyan - 21,000,000+ (He used his damned finger against Trunks’ sword! That’s some badass, gangsta shit right there).
Vegeta - 1,850,000
Son Gohan -245,000 (He wasn’t really doing anything strenuous during Goku’s absence.)
Tien - 70,000 (Tien, Yamcha, and Chao-Tzu owned the Ginyu force pretty badly. Maybe these pl’s should be higher. MAYBE!)
Yamcha - 65,000
Chao-Tzu - 25,000+
Krillin - 75,000 (I believe Krillin is a little stronger than Tien now after having his potential unlocked by the eldest Namek, and because of his ordeals on Namek.
Piccolo - 1,400,000

Cell Saga 3 years later...

Goku - 3,500,000
SSJ - 26,000,000
Sick - 10,000,000
Vegeta -3,850,000
SSJ - 26,350,000 (If veggie head was indeed more powerful than Goku here, it wasn’t by much, so I’ll give or take 300,000+).
Android 19 – 10,000,000
after energy - 12,000,000
Android 20 - 11,500,000
after energy - 14,000,000
Piccolo - 15,500,000
Trunks (SSJ) - 19,500,000
Tien – 500,000
Yamcha - 220,000
Krillin - 550,000
Gohan - 1,500,000
Android 17 - 30,000,000 (He was quite even with Kamiccolo.)
Android 18 - 29,000,000 (Pwns SSJ Vegeta pretty badly, I thought. He put up an awesome fight, though).
Android 16 - 36,000,000
Cell (first appears) - 23,000,000
Kamiccolo - 30,000,000 (He was quite even with Android 17.)

Cell (after absorbing humans) - 34,500,000
After 17 - 65,000,000
After 18 (what is sensed) – 100,000,000
(Actual power) - 130,000,000+
USSJ 1 Vegeta - 75,000,000
USSJ 2 Vegeta (If he’d actually been foolish enough to use this level of power in battle.) – 122,000,000
Final flash - 110,000,000
USSJ 1 Trunks - 73,000,000
USSJ 2 Trunks - 120,000,000

Goku – 6,000,000
USSJ 1 Goku – 90,000,000
USSJ 2 Goku (If he’d actually been foolish enough to use this level of power in battle.) - 135,000,000
Full Power SSJ Goku – 125,000,000 (Goku and Cell were nearly on the same level during their fight. But I have to give the nod to cell here.)
Shunkan Ido Kamehameha – 155,000,000
Post kamehameha – 50,000,000 and dropping
Vegeta (super) - 105,000,000
Trunks (super) - 100,000,000
Piccolo - 55,000,000
Cell (Perfect) - 130,000,000+
After Senzu and at full power - 145,000,000
Buff (USSJ) - 280,000,000
Super Perfect - 270,000,000 (Seems as if he was pretty close to SSJ2 Gohan’s pl.)
Kamehameha - 275,000,000
Cell Jr.'s - 105,000,000
Gohan - 1,500,000
After spirit room - 6,500,000
Full Power SSJ -135,000,000
SSJ2 - 280,000,000 (Whew! That’s ****ing high.)
Injured - 180,000,000 or possibly lower.
Kamehameha - 250,000,000-275,000,000 (One he struggled with before Goku’s pep talk)
Father-son Super kamehameha - 325,000,000

Otherworld Mini-Saga aka fillerama! (Let’s ignore the whole Cell Thing)

Pikkon - 135,000,000
SSJ Goku - 135,000,000 Fully healed after strenuous battle in other world.
Shunkan Ido Kamehameha – 155,000,000

Majin Buu/World Tournament Saga 7 years later…

Great Saiyaman / Gohan - 4,750,000 (Grows weaker after 7 years of moderate to no training).
Full power SSJ - 125,000,000
SSJ2 - 250,000,000
Mystic - 925,000,000
Vegeta - 8,500,000
Full power SSJ - 170,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 355,000,000
SSJ Goten - 20,000,000
SSJ Trunks - 25,000,000
Piccolo - 75,000,000
Krillin -750,000 (Trained once in the ROSAT)
Yamcha – 200,000 ( I don’t think he trains at all after Cell is killed)
Shin - 150,000,000
Kibitoshin - 250,000,000
Kibito - 85,000,000
Spopovich - 2,000,000
Yamu - 2,100,000
Dabura - 245,000,000
Pui Pui - 2,200,000
Yakon - 3,000,000
Babidi's Henchmen - 15,000 each
Goku – 9,750,000
Full Power SSJ Goku – 190,000,000
SSJ2 Goku - 355,000,000
SSJ3 – 570,000,000
Majin Buu - 400,000,000+
Evil - 560,000,000
Good - 400,000,000+
Super Buu -660,000,000
w/ Gotenks and Piccolo –1,000,000,000
w/ Piccolo – 690,000,000
w/ Gohan and Piccolo - 1,775,000,000
Kid Buu - 570,000,000
Gotenks - 25,000,000
SSJ - 255,000,000
SSJ 2 – 460,000,000
SSJ3 – 665,000,000
Vegetto - 1,900,000,000
SSJ - 12,750,000,000
Spirit Bomb - 15,000,000,000 (Overkill, I know.)

Well that’s it. Critique away, DBZ fans! Better yet, make your own lists.

There is no way in hell I am reading all that 😉

yo grinnin, you might wanna adjust the end power levels. some were stronger, some weaker. NO WAY spopovich and yamu were that strong. i would say like barely 500 k. they really had the element of surprise and kabito and shin let it happen. super buu's PL should be much higher. goku ssj3 is way underpowered and again IMO way stronger than mystic gohan. then theres the question of the power level required to blow up a planet. gotenks is also stronger than listed.

the beginning sets however were pretty perfect. the end just needs alot of tweakin. otherwise EXCELLANT POST!!!!!

also krillin is not that power ful, he's probly like maybe 250 k. he was extremely worthless for the entire dbz saga, what makes you say he was that strong?

and android 18 probly has a power lvl of about 26-27 mil not 29.

what are those stas i saw earlier based on the manga or anime? remember the anime is not cannon?and gt is not part of the manga aswell
and what about vegeta,piccolo and people the human charecters?

personally i think...

krillin / kuririn

intelligence: normal
strength : class 25 range but low end able to lift more than 10 tons
running speed: superhuman about 100 mph
flight speed : supersonic mach 4.6 (3080mph)
water speed: superhuman about 60 knots
stamina: enhanced able to sutain for a few hours
durability: metahuman & can stand most explosions but not toxins
agility😖uperhuman because of superspeed
reflexes: superhuman because of superspeed

piccolo

intelligence: extraordinary genius after kami fusion
strength : class 100 not incalculable but around 200 - 500 tons
running speed: subsonic about 500 mph
flight speed : orbital velocity mach 23.3 (5 mile a second / 17941 mph)
water speed: superhuman but more than 60 knots
stamina: superhuman able to sustain for up to a day
durability: demi god like regenerative
agility😖uperhuman because of superspeed
reflexes: superhuman because of superspeed

goku,vegeta at base:

intelligence: above normal
strength : class 50 range
running speed: subsonic about 500 mph
flight speed : hypersonic mach 10 (7700mph roughly 2 mile second)
water speed: superhuman greater than 60 knots
stamina: enhanced able to sutain for a few hours
durability: metahuman can stand explosions & is bulletroof but not toxins
agility😖uperhuman because of superspeed
reflexes: superhuman because of superspeed

goku,vegeta at supersaiyan:

intelligence: above normal
strength : class 100 not incalculable roughly 200 - 500 tons tons
running speed: supersonic
flight speed : orbital velocity mach 23.3 (5 mile a second / 17941 mph)
water speed: near maximum (700 knots)
stamina: superhuman able to sutain for a few hours
durability: demigodlike can stand nuke & is bulletroof but not toxins
agility:metahuman superspeed
reflexes: metahuman because of superspeed

Just had a thought. Goku in base form was handling 8 tons quite easily. When the weight was increased to 40 tons he couldn't move. He goes SSJ and the 40 tons are like nothing for him. I think it's safe to say he could handle more than 95-100 tons in his SSJ form. SSJ2 is another story altogether. Let's say for the sake of argument that Goku tops out at 80 tons in SSJ form (which I strongly doubt). He then goes SSJ 2 which doubles his power level and it leaves us with a minimum of 190 - 200 tons he'd top out at. Now at SSJ3 he's hella powerful. Lets double that and he'd be lifting over 350-400 tons easily, I think. That pwns the majority of Marvel's strongest characters. The only three characters that would give SSJ3 Goku hell are Hulk, Sentry and BB marvels supposedly top three heroes. And even this is speculation. One fully powered Shunkan Ido Kamehmeha from SSJ3 Goku and WWH is dead IMO.

I agree, but you forgot to mention Superman, lol

Originally posted by superkronick92
I agree, but you forgot to mention Superman, lol

I just included Marvel characters. I'm not messing with DC right now, lulz. 😄

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Just had a thought. Goku in base form was handling 8 tons quite easily. When the weight was increased to 40 tons he couldn't move. He goes SSJ and the 40 tons are like nothing for him. I think it's safe to say he could handle more than 95-100 tons in his SSJ form. SSJ2 is another story altogether. Let's say for the sake of argument that Goku tops out at 80 tons in SSJ form (which I strongly doubt). He then goes SSJ 2 which doubles his power level and it leaves us with a minimum of 190 - 200 tons he'd top out at. Now at SSJ3 he's hella powerful. Lets double that and he'd be lifting over 350-400 tons easily, I think. That pwns the majority of Marvel's strongest characters. The only three characters that would give SSJ3 Goku hell are Hulk, Sentry and BB marvels supposedly top three heroes. And even this is speculation. One fully powered Shunkan Ido Kamehmeha from SSJ3 Goku and WWH is dead IMO.

your stats are completely wrong. goku was trainin with 4 tons altogether in base. then king kai ups it to 40, where goku cant move. he goes ssj and its like he's lifting candy. his power clearly increases either exponentially or more than 10 fold. so ssj 3 would be in the thousands of tons

heres my estimates

goku base - around 10 tons top

ssj-120-160

ssj 2 - 900-1000

ssj3- 10 k and over.

likely more, but kronick will jump even farther down my throat if i make the numbers any bigger

Originally posted by chickenlover98
your stats are completely wrong. goku was trainin with 4 tons altogether in base. then king kai ups it to 40, where goku cant move. he goes ssj and its like he's lifting candy. his power clearly increases either exponentially or more than 10 fold. so ssj 3 would be in the thousands of tons

heres my estimates

goku base - around 10 tons top

ssj-120-160

ssj 2 - 900-1000

ssj3- 10 k and over.

likely more, but kronick will jump even farther down my throat if i make the numbers any bigger

First of all.....no, just no.

Originally posted by superkronick92
First of all.....no, just no.

prove me wrong dick. you have no real proof how his strength is multiplied when he transforms. we never even saw the extent of his strength in ssj 1. if you can go ahead and get me a direct quote from akira toriyama sayin his strength is multiplied by XX whenever he transforms, u win. otherwise......shut up