Originally posted by Darth Exodus
I don't know what that means but anyway.....Sabers: In the sabers front, I see no reason why Bane shouldn't be able to take away a win. He has extremely potent attributes that are only hightened in RO2 by the added effect of the orbalisks. His speed is easily comparable to Sidious' as of POD and since it has been accepted in anouther thread that Bane> Mace then I see no reason why logically Bane shouldn't > Sids ( I know that Mace only beat ROTS Sids but still, Palps was defeated by a basic unskilled duelist) if you factor in the protection ect
LOL! Mace, an unskilled duelist? Are you f*cking kidding me?
Mace was considered to be one of the strongest saber users in history- in my personal opinion, BEYOND Bane in terms of saber skills- had the Shatterpoint ability and mastered a style designed specifically to reflect Dark Side users' own attributes back at them? I don't give a damn what was established in another thread (it probably wasn't established, it was just people claiming Bane > Mace and then deciding that they won), seeing as it's NOT canon and is UNSUPPORTED.
Bane's most impressive lightsaber combat feat- successfully fought off multiple Jedi, with only one of them (Raskta) being truly strong in saber combat. They were BMed, true, but he was nearly killed when Raskta realized his weakness and was basically forcing him back.
Now then... thankfully, we also have a case of Sidious fighting against 2 skilled lightsaber duelists (Fisto and Tiin), 1 highly skilled lightsaber duelist (Kolar), and one extremely skilled lightsaber duelist who can at least match Bane in sabers (Windu). You know what the result of that was? Sidious WTFpwning three Jedi Masters in the space of 10 seconds and forcing Windu back. I have quotes to prove that those three were highly skilled lightsaber duelists- particularly Kolar. So don't tell me they were weaklings when they AT LEAST matched Farfalla in terms of lightsaber skills.
Now then, throughout the entire fight, Sidious was forcing Mace back and almost beating him several times, and even Windu- in the novel- confessed he could not defeat Sidious. Also note that there's a very large possibility that Sidious' abilities downplayed due to his own manipulation in the ledge part, and only Windu's shatterpoint ability allowed him to barely defeat a tired, weaker than normal Sidious through a tactical advantage (the broken window).
Subsequently, Sidious fought the greatest Jedi in history up to that point and stalemated him in lightsaber combat. And incidentally, the also means Yoda > Any enemy Bane fought. And Sidious was dead even with him in lightsaber combat.
And now then, DE Sidious. ALL incarnations of Sidious fight with extreme speed and viciousness, like a blur, beyond anything Bane showed. His accomplishments were also more impressive. DE Sidious, meanwhile, WTFROFLlolOMGpwned DE Luke, a being who is VERY strong and apparently multiple people find him to be equal with Bane. Sidious disarmed Luke in three panels. THREE PANELS.
Although Bane's orbalisks gives him the edge in defense, Sidious trumpts everything he did in terms of offensive lightsaber skill and mastery. PARTICULARLY DE Sidious. ROTS Sidious would only barely beat him in sabers.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Force: I am undecided. In my opinion Bane has equalled Sisious in the Lightning front and in World spanning power but the orbalisks might let him down in respect to their lightning vulnerability. However, Bane might have sufficient power to block all of Palps attacks with the Darkside feeding powers of the orbalisks.
Bane's lightning- got deflected back to him by a basically dead Jedi.
Sidious Lightning- Disintegrated lightsabers, one-shot killed Jedi, almost overpowered the strongest Jedi in history who is FAR above a basically dead Worror, killed legions of stormtroopers, etc, etc, etc... yeah. If you seriously think Bane has him equalled here, you have a problem.
World-Spanning Powers- What did Bane do? Channel the attack of 25 other Sith Lords?
What did Sidious do? Even in ROTS, he used a ritual that clouded the force, mind-raped billions of people, and sent lightning storms crashing around the most populated planet in the Galaxy. Wiped the memories of millions of people to prevent knowledge of the Lusankya. Now then- by DE, he used a force power that was capable of decimating fleets and was said to be able to ravage the surface of planets, and was called the greatest demonstration of dark side power in history. I hope you're joking if you think Bane has him equalled.
Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Allout: Bane as he could realistically block Sidious' Force attacks and probably beat him in the Sabers. Also, I just think that he's a better fighter/Sith.
Are you serious? Are you ignoring all evidence whatsoever? He could not have a hope of beating DE Sidious in sabers, his lightsaber will be disintergrated by Sidious' lightning, ROTS Sidious could likely barely defeat him in sabers... lol.
Do you think he's a better fight/Sith? You're wrong.
Death Star, Page 75; "The Emperor was completely in concert with the dark side of the Force. He was the most powerful Sith to have ever existed."
Ultimate Visual Dictionary, contrary to Noobaris' lies; "the greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power bides his time.", page 72
In Empire's End, on of the spirits claims that Sidious is the most powerful being to use the dark side. Those spirits include your precious Bane.
Also, according to Kevin J. Anderson, the author of the numerous Exar Kun and other ancient Sith stuff: ""No. Exar Kun, Naga Sadow and the others are on a firmly lower tier than Emperor Palpatine.""
And, finally, according to the DE Sourcebook, the most powerful Sith Lord- EVER- had risen from the grave.
(Copied from my Nihilus/Traya/Sion vs. Sidious argument).
Try to argue against this, then.