All Powers Ganon v.s. All Powers Sephiroth

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All Powers Ganon v.s. All Powers Sephiroth

v.s.

This is pretty close, V2D will rant on about Ganon. I say Sephiroth BARELY BY A HAIR wins.

Ganon probably, he can only be killed by Master sword, hes a plot device character

key word Killed. Seph DEFEATS Ganon.

yes but with what? people always say defeat as if its so much easier,defeating Ganon is not going to be easy, he can fly as well apprently unlike Kain in the other thread, so hes a flying invulerable guy and can apprently go intangible to escape Sephiroths nastiest things

hed prob knock out sephiroth and then beat him to death since Ganon seems fairly strong altho i dont kno, Ganon has loads of powers but V2D knows more

Only Ganondorf can win here.

However, if you remove the plot device, Sephiroth warpstomps on Ganon

Originally posted by Burning thought
yes but with what? people always say defeat as if its so much easier,defeating Ganon is not going to be easy, he can fly as well apprently unlike Kain in the other thread, so hes a flying invulerable guy and can apprently go intangible to escape Sephiroths nastiest things

hed prob knock out sephiroth and then beat him to death since Ganon seems fairly strong altho i dont kno, Ganon has loads of powers but V2D knows more


You say it as though defeating Seph with all his powers would be easy and he would just stand there.

I thought Ganondorf only has invulnerability to a degree, its the triforce that grants him immortality, but the triforce isnt necessarily Ganon's power since it can be used by others.

In terms of run-of-the-mill abilities, they have the same ones, parts of one greater than the other's and vice versa, and with all their powers, they're both semi-omnipotent tyrants. Oh yeah, and they can both fly and jump massive heights. My vote goes to Ganondorf primarily because he can only be defeated by the powers of the Master Sword, which Sephiroth can't use because 1. He's evil (through insanity more than a lust for power, no less), and 2. Link is the only on who can wield its power (effectively at least). But technically, taking away that PIS just means he's now invincible 100%.

Ganondorf is not just immortal, but he is invulnerable, nothing can so much as harm him, in short, he's the Juggernaut b!tch.

The Triforce cannot be used by anyone, look at Link, the best it's ever given him is latent supernatural abilities(like strength) in TP, Ganon mastered the Triforce of Power, it has become part of him(this reminds me of the laughable argument of Seph stealing the ToP from Ganon lol).

In terms of physical brute strength, Ganon has more. People will say that Seph has cut chunks of buildings, but it takes more than strength to do that. The sharpness of his sword and speed at which he swung it contribute to cutting power as well. Ganon crushes powerful dark artifacts like grapes in his hands, right after coming back from death with a sword in his chest broke thick mystical chains and dashed forward in a burst of speed, killing a Sage with a PUNCH(which disintegrated him btw), in a burst of magic energy while moments from collapsing, he destroyed his castle. Also, his reaction time for his size is great, he can block and dodge Light Arrows easily, which travel very fast.

Seph has Sin Harvest from FF7 and KH2. If Sora didn't have a certain ability equiped, Sephiroth instantly killed him. If Sora did, all of Sora's magic would be gone and he would be 1 hit away from death.
I lol at the person who said Seph could take the ToP.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Ganondorf is not just immortal, but he is invulnerable, nothing can so much as harm him, in short, he's the Juggernaut b!tch.

The Triforce cannot be used by anyone, look at Link, the best it's ever given him is latent supernatural abilities(like strength) in TP, Ganon mastered the Triforce of Power, it has become part of him(this reminds me of the laughable argument of Seph stealing the ToP from Ganon lol).

In terms of physical brute strength, Ganon has more. People will say that Seph has cut chunks of buildings, but it takes more than strength to do that. The sharpness of his sword and speed at which he swung it contribute to cutting power as well. Ganon crushes powerful dark artifacts like grapes in his hands, right after coming back from death with a sword in his chest broke thick mystical chains and dashed forward in a burst of speed, killing a Sage with a PUNCH(which disintegrated him btw), in a burst of magic energy while moments from collapsing, he destroyed his castle. Also, his reaction time for his size is great, he can block and dodge Light Arrows easily, which travel very fast.

Its still an artifact that can be anyones, even though if varies by whoever wields it, its not Ganon's real power.

Sephiroth has a ton of strength as well, we dont even see him at 100% ever but he esffortlessly lifted up Cloud(with his sword as well) at the tip of his masamune(which makes it waaay more heavy) with just his wrist alone
watch at 0:46
YouTube video

i also heard somewhere that it couldve been an effect of when sages die that their bodys disappear like that.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Its still an artifact that can be anyones, even though if varies by whoever wields it, its not Ganon's real power.

Sephiroth has a ton of strength as well, we dont even see him at 100% ever but he esffortlessly lifted up Cloud(with his sword as well) at the tip of his masamune(which makes it waaay more heavy) with just his wrist alone
watch at 0:46
YouTube video

i also heard somewhere that it couldve been an effect of when sages die that their bodys disappear like that.

1. Not really, usually Link just gets it for the sole purpose of not letting Ganon, Link can't use it for anything. Ganon knows more about it than anyone, that is why he can wield it's vast power. Also, it is more of a weapon, like Black Materia or the Negative Lifestream.

2. Never said Seph was weak, Ganon is just stronger. Ever tried to crush and apple in your palm? Can't do it, can you? Ganon crushed a powerful dark artifact like it was nothing. With a sword thru his chest(physically thru it at the time) and after just being revived from death, he broke his thick mystical chains and killed the Sage(which is also a good speed feat).

3. Could've, I think he just charged his fists with magic.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
1. Not really, usually Link just gets it for the sole purpose of not letting Ganon, Link can't use it for anything. Ganon knows more about it than anyone, that is why he can wield it's vast power. Also, it is more of a weapon, like Black Materia or the Negative Lifestream.

2. Never said Seph was weak, Ganon is just stronger. Ever tried to crush and apple in your palm? Can't do it, can you? Ganon crushed a powerful dark artifact like it was nothing. With a sword thru his chest(physically thru it at the time) and after just being revived from death, he broke his thick mystical chains and killed the Sage(which is also a good speed feat).

3. Could've, I think he just charged his fists with magic.


But Link can still use it, just not at the level of Ganon, has Link ever had the triforce of power though? Black materia can be used by anyone who is experienced with materia, thats why the cetra locked it away, because it was so dangerous, i think white materia can only be used by cetra tho, negative lifestream was created by sephiroth and can only be used by sephiroth.

How do you know how durable the artifact is though? It can be powerful, but the artifact itself can just be as durable as a ball of glass.

In Ocarina of Time, in the Ganondorf fight Link's health and magic heal to full and in the cutscene his Tri-force glows. No Link has never had the Triforce of Power I think. Maybe in the Original game he got a triforce from killing Ganon.

Just remind me: Has this been done before, or is the "all powers" a new bit that makes this different enough to be left open?

It's the opponents with the powers from every game, show, and movie they've been in so yeah if it's different then a normal AC vs Twilight Princess Ganondorf like that.

Originally posted by Terryc250
But Link can still use it, just not at the level of Ganon, has Link ever had the triforce of power though? Black materia can be used by anyone who is experienced with materia, thats why the cetra locked it away, because it was so dangerous, i think white materia can only be used by cetra tho, negative lifestream was created by sephiroth and can only be used by sephiroth.

How do you know how durable the artifact is though? It can be powerful, but the artifact itself can just be as durable as a ball of glass.

No, he can't use it, that's the point I am making. He can have it, but not use it. Triforce pieces can only be used by someone like Ganondorf, tho anyone gets their wish granted if they assemble the whole thing.

It survived the blast of holy light from one of the Light Spirits, that same blast easily incapacitated Midna.

Originally posted by Furion
It's the opponents with the powers from every game, show, and movie they've been in so yeah if it's different then a normal AC vs Twilight Princess Ganondorf like that.

Ehh, I'll allow it, then. 😉

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
No, he can't use it, that's the point I am making. He can have it, but not use it. Triforce pieces can only be used by someone like Ganondorf, tho anyone gets their wish granted if they assemble the whole thing.

It survived the blast of holy light from one of the Light Spirits, that same blast easily incapacitated Midna.

Doesnt Link use the Triforce of courage? Well anyway, what i was trying to say was that its possible for others to use the triforce relic, so its not necessarily Ganondorfs own power.