Dimitri vs Sephiroth

Originally posted by Shadowloo's OG
Demetri has all of Pyron's power...Seph doesn't stand a chance...

Demetri's power is "TRUE" Pyron's power PLUS his own. True Pyron would kill Seph in seconds, Demetri at this point could accomplish this feat even faster...not to mention Seph has NO WAY, to hurt Demetri in the first place Demetri in his weakest for could survive a dimension rippin attack, Seph can't even fathom such power.

Seph dies instantly...
Demetri kills'em wit his own sword.

you new Shadow? not seen you before, if so then welcome 😄

its nice to see you have some DS knowledge, ime terrible at DS knowledge but their interesting characters to debate so perhaps you could shed some light in this thread, but indeed what you say seems to be true according to the respect threads and their information

😆 I'm King Hellstorm...i just changed my name 😆

oh okie lol, check peoples profiles ftw before asking them odd questions!! 😄 😛

well your the only defence for DS now, so gear up 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
thats your problem, we do debate Dante with all his weapons, he brings forth his shotgun, spiral and all kinds of weapons in his debates, the thing is, their his, kains spells are only kains spells, materia.....thats for anyone to use, its a free for all, if you give someone materia they anyone can cast certain spells, their not special, their not clouds

proof of what, ime not a DS fanboy, V2D is, also can you show me proof of what your saying? no, whats that? oh AC sephiroth has no good feats what a shame, terrible shame, just a guy with a sword....wow no wonder he has so many fans, hes so simple

where did i hear it? its a good esimation of his size, he wears planets for rings and his chest is the size of Hellstorm which is supposedly larger than Jupitor, which is massive in comparison to the Earth as well

so technically, you dont even have a percentage, all we know is that Pyron is smaller, and that he chose to decrease his size, he chose to do things the way he wanted against the characters, however he is never serious until he fights Demitri because Demitri eventualyl beats him and absorbs, Pyron still supposedly moved at lightspeed in this human form, he still has incredible strength in the form of punching through high tech phobos robots with ease who also apprently have the power to annhilate towns and cities with their armaments

No we dont assume Dante is carrying about 10 different weapons, wheres ur proof that the spells are only limited to kain, and not any other vampire that finds them?

Just a guy with a sword? lawlz, and kain is just a wrinkly old man, who hops around like a monkey climbing things, who has a total of 2-3 fans who obsesses over him and dream of trying to fool everyone to make the old monkey uber 1337.

Supposedly lightspeed? Assumption? Punching through robots? And how durable is a robot supposed to be?

Demetri has all of Pyron's power...Seph doesn't stand a chance...

Originally posted by Terryc250
No we dont assume Dante is carrying about 10 different weapons, wheres ur proof that the spells are only limited to kain, and not any other vampire that finds them?

Just a guy with a sword? lawlz, and kain is just a wrinkly old man, who hops around like a monkey climbing things, who has a total of 2-3 fans who obsesses over him and dream of trying to fool everyone to make the old monkey uber 1337.

Supposedly lightspeed? Assumption? Punching through robots? And how durable is a robot supposed to be?

Where is ur proof that Demitri gains all of Pyrons powers? Can he grow to the size of the planet? Just because he consumed him doesnt necessarily mean he gains all of his powers

yes we do, you obviously dont debate Dante, never is it brought up that in theory he can only carry a couple or a few, and regardless its debated that he usually has acess to his whole arsenal, most of which is actually optional, what do you mean? the proof is in the fact only kain does get them, only kain does have them in the game, simple, your simply making excuses that dont excist other than in your mind, no other vampire has used the skills, so your making many assumptions just by saying that

yeh, just a guy with a sword, a wrinkly old man? hes not wrinkly in any of his games....Elder Kain is no longer a man....2-3 fans? lawls at you....
no your trying to make a featless character uber, but thats your bad mindset and why you get owned in every kain thread when u try and debate agaiunst him, you dont know anything about him

he moves round the planet several times in a few seconds, thats lightspeed possibly beyond...Robots are metal at least, thick metal....fairly large, so lets say so much greater feat by itself than basically all of Sephiroths strength feats, like chopping away at a single building hahaha

he gains Pyrons "power", he absorbs pyron and gains his power, not sure if he actually gains pyrons "powers" but he gains all of pyrons power by absorbtion

please dont get owned against DS and LOK, that would be funny but pointless, please look at the Respect threads for Demitri and pyron

well we're not using ZOMG DA UBERZ DA SMITETH PEOPLZ! We're using just normal Demitri and that's that.

huh? i dont get that part, you said normal Demitri, what do you call normal Demitri? at 80% i think it was he beat human sized Pyron, Aborbed pyrons power, and at 100% he survived a dimensional arrow, it doesnt matter what Demitri we use, Sephiroth cannot do anything

before Demitri absorbed Pyron. Seph Sin Harvest and it's over. Or if Demitri is stupid enough to Absorb Seph, Seph takes over Demitri.

if Sephiroth is absorbed he wont excist, so that doesnt make any sense, hes dead so he wont be taking over anyone..

sin harvest is slow....its also mainly a gameplay move that seems to have no weight out of gameplay, apprently according to you it makes your sins damage you 🙄 thats not going to do much to Demitri since technically whats sins going to do? lol..

Demitri breaks Sephiroth into 10 little pieces, then another 10, then another until he gets bored

And pimps Tifa.

only kain does have them in the game, simple, your simply making excuses that dont excist other than in your mind, no other vampire has used the skills, so your making many assumptions just by saying that

yeh, just a guy with a sword, a wrinkly old man? hes not wrinkly in any of his games....Elder Kain is no longer a man....2-3 fans? lawls at you....
no your trying to make a featless character uber, but thats your bad mindset and why you get owned in every kain thread when u try and debate agaiunst him, you dont know anything about him

Featless? How about contaminating the planet, taking over a portion of the planets power, and spreading, creating his own plague, becoming more powerful then the goddess of the planet herself, more powerful then any of the WEAPONS, creating beings that would give Kain a real tough time, etc

he moves round the planet several times in a few seconds, thats lightspeed possibly beyond...Robots are metal at least, thick metal....fairly large, so lets say so much greater feat by itself than basically all of Sephiroths strength feats, like chopping away at a single building hahaha

sin harvest is slow....its also mainly a gameplay move that seems to have no weight out of gameplay, apprently according to you it makes your sins damage you thats not going to do much to Demitri since technically whats sins going to do? lol..

if Sephiroth is absorbed he wont excist, so that doesnt make any sense, hes dead so he wont be taking over anyone..

please dont get owned against DS and LOK, that would be funny but pointless

thats your problem on this forum, you cant debate, you can just talk smack.. all you do is "ooo this character will own this and break that, make him look like a baby!111" I dont think you ever once show real evidence, maybe one time, when you tried to prove Kain was faster then Loz, which was HILARIOUS.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Maybe no other vampire found the spell, its not stated that spells are only limited to Kain, anyway, Kain doesnt have them anymore period.

looks pretty wrinkly to me

Featless? How about contaminating the planet, taking over a portion of the planets power, and spreading, creating his own plague, becoming more powerful then the goddess of the planet herself, more powerful then any of the WEAPONS, creating beings that would give Kain a real tough time, etc

Stop blabbing feats if your not going to back it up, if ur going to state that human sized pyron, be prepared to show evidence he did, if you dont have evidence, dont say it.

Slow? He mutters a word, and its done, its like a voodoo attack, in FF7 he didnt even need to mutter anything.. i dont know what "sin harvest" is, but it seems to be just heartless angel.

No if he absorbs Sephiroth, Sephiroth will become apart of him.. just, and he'll spread and contaminate just like how he did to the planet. Sephiroths will power is too strong.

thats your problem on this forum, you cant debate, you can just talk smack.. all you do is "ooo this character will own this and break that, make him look like a baby!111" I dont think you ever once show real evidence, maybe one time, when you tried to prove Kain was faster then Loz, which was HILARIOUS.

show me what says he does not have them? canonically out of gameplay? nothing other than gameplay suggests he loses all his spells and still has none of them by Elder kain other than gameplay frm what i remember

their not really wrinles their part of his design, if they were wrinles there would be so many more around his face than what there are now, you have to take into consideration Vampires are immortal, they dont age and infact their almost constantly evolving, cells and things would be diffrent to a human so they wouldnt wrinkle, look at Vorador for example i think hes older than kain and he has no wrinkles either, their design

creating a plague? lawls, ive not seen any of this power so "shrug", stated to be more powerful does not mean he can use it, he has the potensial perhaps but nothing else from what weve seen

what? lawls look at the hypocrite, what have you posted? nothing, you simply stated things for Sephiroth, infact ive not even seen this interview you keep talking about with the developer and furthmore ive seen hardly anything to making sephiroth high powered. Also i say again, read all the respect thread and look at the links

both of them seem to be covered in gameplay elements

hehe will power is too strong, good luck when hes dead, technically it wont be sephiroth, just Jenova cells so Sephiroth will basically be dead and Demitri if it worked would be the new Jenova chosen, ofcourse, he doesnt even have to absorb Sephiroth, he does that when a character has power in him, Sephiroth is worthless to Demitri

ill ignore your last bit, its like a toddler upset because hes been sent to his room, go and stamp your feet somewhere else please 😉

Originally posted by Burning thought
show me what says he does not have them? canonically out of gameplay? nothing other than gameplay suggests he loses all his spells and still has none of them by Elder kain other than gameplay frm what i remember

what? lawls look at the hypocrite, what have you posted? nothing, you simply stated things for Sephiroth, infact ive not even seen this interview you keep talking about with the developer and furthmore ive seen hardly anything to making sephiroth high powered. Also i say again, [B]read all the respect thread and look at the links

hehe will power is too strong, good luck when hes dead, technically it wont be sephiroth, just Jenova cells so Sephiroth will basically be dead and Demitri if it worked would be the new Jenova chosen, ofcourse, he doesnt even have to absorb Sephiroth, he does that when a character has power in him, Sephiroth is worthless to Demitri

ill ignore your last bit, its like a toddler upset because hes been sent to his room, go and stamp your feet somewhere else please 😉 [/B]

OH MY GOD! BT you fail miserably.
1. I've never seen Kain use his shield in Canon, no really, Raziel kicked his ass twice. If Sin Harvest is pure gameplay and shields pure gameplay then they both shouldn't be used then.
2. If Demitri absorbs Seph, Seph's J-Cells will infect Demitri. Demitri will then be possessed by Seph who will gain all of Demitri's powers and abilities. Sucks to be him. Kadaj got those J-Cells on him in AC and looked what happened.

What makes you think that the J-Cells will actually infect Demitri? Kadaj and Demitri are 2 VERY different people.

Phail.

Sephiroth mind controlled people in ff7 who had tiny amounts of J-Cells in them. Example is Cloud. Seph is full of J-Cells. Infact the body is Jenova. If Demitri absorbed Seph he would be screwed.

Originally posted by Terryc250
haha well since Kain hasnt had it in the previous 4 games, LOK-SR, LOK-SR2, BO2, and LOK-Defiance, and unable to use them, logically it tells you he doesnt have them 😆

Yes he created a plague, Geostigma

"stated to be more powerful does not mean he can use it"
Huh? Use what?

I state facts, quotes from the game, quotes from the creators, videos, etc, what part of the interview are u looking for? Tell me and ill give u a link to which one, some are in the ultimania guide, some are from the tetsuya interview, etc. I always ask you for evidence or anything to backup what you claim yet you always fail to show me.

huh? Sephiroth died a few times, He died at the end of FF7, but his concious never ceasts, when anyone dies, they merge with the planet, when sephiroth merged with the planet, he infected it. Absorbing Sephiroth will likely work the same way.

And yet some more smack talking, just proves my point

in gameplay unless you can dig up and show me a canon reason why he would not have his spells that he gets i the games, then you phail

use the powers of those he is more powerful than, just because he is more powerful overall does not mean he has the abilities of all those he is stronger than, for example speed of some fast characters or the endurance of others.

i state tonnes of facts from the games....so is this good enough proof for me then? obviously not apprently because your moaning about it..so why should i accept your apprent facts from the games?

show me the tetsuya interview, ive backed up basically all the claims, statistics for spells etc etc

well thats going to be his problem in this and any other KMC fight because hes not going to merge with any planet, hes a gonner

Originally posted by Furion
OH MY GOD! BT you fail miserably.
1. I've never seen Kain use his shield in Canon, no really, Raziel kicked his ass twice. If Sin Harvest is pure gameplay and shields pure gameplay then they both shouldn't be used then.
2. If Demitri absorbs Seph, Seph's J-Cells will infect Demitri. Demitri will then be possessed by Seph who will gain all of Demitri's powers and abilities. Sucks to be him. Kadaj got those J-Cells on him in AC and looked what happened.

abilities are canon, his shield is well documented on what it is, and what it does...Raziel wins every time he fights kain through the fact kain wants all these thngs to happen.....its like saying Aegwyn kicked Sargerus @ss in the warcraft universe, the diffrence is Sin harvest is an unkown attack, you think sin harvest would 1 hit galactus then? lawls, living Tribunal better beware....thats why anyone who brings up sin harvest phails because first its not documented from what ive seen, show me it documented, other than that however, everything about it revolves around gameplay and assumptions

Demitri wont have to absorb seph, hell just KO him with a punch

1. Kain wanted Raziel to rip out Janos's heart? Last time I checked Kain didn't want Janos alive. Your logic fails.
2. Living Tribunal doesn't need to fight Seph. The Parrot from Alladin soloes LT in 0.00001 sec
3.Prove Demitri can get Seph to hold still and punch him. Seph teles to a group of mountains and Sin Harvests Demitri.
4. Maybe not 1 hit, but it would hurt. maybe after 500 times Galactus dies.

Originally posted by Furion
1. Kain wanted Raziel to rip out Janos's heart? Last time I checked Kain didn't want Janos alive. Your logic fails.
2. Living Tribunal doesn't need to fight Seph. The Parrot from Alladin soloes LT in 0.00001 sec
3.Prove Demitri can get Seph to hold still and punch him. Seph teles to a group of mountains and Sin Harvests Demitri.
4. Maybe not 1 hit, but it would hurt. maybe after 500 times Galactus dies.

1. No but he didnt know he had Janos' heart inside of him anyway, he didnt go all out against Raziel thats for sure, he didnt want to kill him, Kain knows he needs Raziel....he never actually tries to kill Raziel in any of the games, well...i suppose he does try once and suceeds when he has him caste into the Abyss, thats sorta a death

2,either way, its a good argument against everyone who says without anything backing the move itself that it would one hit characters, just because it one hits enemies in the game

3. can you prove its got the range of that? every enemy ive seen Sephiroth do this against is very close, also if Sephiroth tele to mountains, Demitri tele also, but Sin harvest wont do anything, its a gameplay move, all it does is damage Demitri with his sins

4. but hey hey, it takes peoples life down to near death.....why should Galactus be any diffrent? 😉 Demitri would crush anything with ease in FF and so would Galactus so Sin harvest should be weaker against him by your logic than the average thing in FF

But where was Kain's shield? HMMMMMMM...
I think Seph just needs to see it. You can't dodge it. It's like Voodoo. Midnight Bliss is a gameplay move. How do we know it affects Seph at all. If it works on Sora who was not of that world, then it should work on anybody.
Prove Demitri could crush anything. WADA ABOUT TRANCE KUJA! HE GLASSES PLANETS WITH EASE!