Silver Surfer's Blast vs Superman's punch · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Air Legend Moderat0r

Originally posted by Juntai
Your scans defeated themselves.
"I cannot be moved unless I wish to be."
Also, he was invisible and intangible pretty much that entire Tales arc, he allowed Batman to see and touch him.... sort of like he explained to Superman.

You're right. Spectre lets Batman have his way with him, while he laughs in Supermans face.

Batkick ftw.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by Air Legend
You're right. Spectre lets Batman have his way with him, while he laughs in Supermans face.
Batkick ftw.

He's kind of an ass in that regard.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by nimbus006
He went mad b/c he tried to absorb the entire sun at once. Superman couldnt do that either. Surfer can still DRAW energy from ALMOST anything in the cosmos is what i meant to say.
And he CAN absorb the power primordal, he did it against that uni something creature IIRC.

Superman honestly doesn't need to since it appears he processes the same energy far more efficiently.

For example OWAW's sundip made him ridiculously over the top tier. His proximity to the Sun when fighting Cythonna made him fight on an almost even basis with a kryptonian skyfather level god.

He actually did absorb a full sun when he willfully absorbed the anti-sun powering mageddon...and smiled afterwards like nothing happened.

Surfer's attempt to absorb a sun powered him up...but unfortunately it has the effect of not only driving SS mad...but making him dumber the more powerful he gets...ala Maul from wildcats.

Soljer Beware my Power

By 'all out, not holding back' do we take into account the fact that Superman can travel at super-luminal speeds before extending his fist for the punch?

Do we take into account the possible barrage of follow up punches/blasts?

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Ok some quick clarifications:

Yes this is more of a measuring type deal with everything is considered equal footing.

Secondly this is Superman's best punch so yes he gets to attain max velocity as well as his strength into the attack. And he only gets one.

Just Surfer only gets one Blast.

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

So Supes flying at top speed and connecting a punch, or Supes simply cocking back his fist and dropping a haymaker? Because if it's Supes charging full bore, shouldn't it also be Surfer dropping his most powerful blast in someone's grill at point blank range?

illadelph12 aka Rakim Illa

Either way it's still shatter versus vaporize.

Newjak I am Beyond Power

Originally posted by illadelph12
So Supes flying at top speed and connecting a punch, or Supes simply cocking back his fist and dropping a haymaker? Because if it's Supes charging full bore, shouldn't it also be Surfer dropping his most powerful blast in someone's grill at point blank range?

Well I'm allowing Superman to fly at top speed because Silver Surfer can charge his blasts.

strengthkills Senior Member

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd say Surfer's blast, actually. Superman's punches are very powerful, but the properties behind a blast from Surfer exceed a punch. The punch is simply one extremely strong impact on one point of a surface. The blast contains near equal concussive force as the punch, as well as heat, radiation, and whatever other properties Surfer wishes to channel into it, and it will also engulf the target's entirety and strike at all points on the surface, or Surfer can fine tune the blast to be surgical and strike a particular point. Surfer can also custom make his blasts tailored for any target to bypass it's defenses, or simply disintegrate matter.
That's my opinion anyway.
Punches can shatter.
Blasts can vaporize.

Well put,this is my opinion too.

Horrificus Senior Member

Surfer

Mindship Snap out of it.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well I'm allowing Superman to fly at top speed because Silver Surfer can charge his blasts.

I'm not sure how that equates. Surfer charging up a blast is like Superman cocking back his fist. To add flying momentum is to give Superman a secondary source of punching force. That would be like having Surfer fly in at top speed and converting his kinetic energy into additional blast energy.

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

Originally posted by Avlon
Superman honestly doesn't need to since it appears he processes the same energy far more efficiently.
For example OWAW's sundip made him ridiculously over the top tier. His proximity to the Sun when fighting Cythonna made him fight on an almost even basis with a kryptonian skyfather level god.
He actually did absorb a full sun when he willfully absorbed the anti-sun powering mageddon...and smiled afterwards like nothing happened.
Surfer's attempt to absorb a sun powered him up...but unfortunately it has the effect of not only driving SS mad...but making him dumber the more powerful he gets...ala Maul from wildcats.

He legitimately beat a skyfather with a sun-amp? 🤨 😑 Well, now I don't feel so bad about S/B 25. haermm

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Bump.

evillaugh

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'd say Surfer's blast, actually. Superman's punches are very powerful, but the properties behind a blast from Surfer exceed a punch. The punch is simply one extremely strong impact on one point of a surface. The blast contains near equal concussive force as the punch, as well as heat, radiation, and whatever other properties Surfer wishes to channel into it, and it will also engulf the target's entirety and strike at all points on the surface, or Surfer can fine tune the blast to be surgical and strike a particular point. Surfer can also custom make his blasts tailored for any target to bypass it's defenses, or simply disintegrate matter.
That's my opinion anyway.
Punches can shatter.
Blasts can vaporize.

Except Surfer hasn't vaporized anyone of note.

👆

h1a8 Senior Member

SHATTERING PLANETS
At best Surfer can shatter (not vaporize) planets. If a non holding back Superman can press more than 50 Earth weights then he too could easily shatter planets with a single blow.

VAPORIZING FODDER
Second, Superman can IMP. If he punches something with 99.9999999% the speed of light then not only will his mass significantly increase but the kinetic energy produced from that type of velocity would vaporize any fodder object that Surfer can vaporize. It's the same science behind of WBH'S output energy after the collision. That energy had vaporization properties due to the impact.

DAMAGING DURABLE BEINGS
If a non holding back Superman can press more than 50 Earth weights then he can damage beings that Surfer cant. Also, going by comics, OWAW Superman can literally damage beings that Surfer's blasts cant.

Bottomline: Since a non holding back Superman's punch can damage very durable beings that Surfer's blasts cant and can also vaporize any object that Surfer's blast can. Thus the punch has the better damage output.

P.S. Superman's hv has better penetration power than Surfer's blasts. It can reach temperatures more than 1000x hotter than the sun. No character in comics was shown to survive or produce that type of heat.

carver9 Senior Member

Can fts be posted please? Blasting fts for Surfer and PUNCHING (not bull rushing) fts for Superman.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by One-Punch

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abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Sure. I'll start.

Casually punches a hole in Cyborg-Superman and rips his central node out.

Shattered Fernus's body with one punch.

Killed Doomsday in a few punches.

Would've shattered Wonder Woman's bracers in three hits.

Actually shattered Diana's bracers in an altered timeline.

Punched so hard with Kal-L, it destroyed the barriers of space and time and started warping reality.

Punched off Kal-L's jaw in one hit.

Oneshotted Earth Man with the power of entire LOSH.

Oneshotted Bizarro.

Oneshotted Ignition who was breaking his bones.