Silver Surfer (amped) vs. Galactus (moderately fed)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That scans doesn't prove that the gem grants infinite power tho. He simply reverses thier power back upon them. Quasar has done that before.

Not but it shows that the gem is capable in the hand of a noob to reverse/control (whatever you like) the energies released from Warlock and Doctor Strange now I know that these two isn't comparable to Galactus in damageoutput but neither would Thor's knowlegde about the gem in comparison to what surfer would know about it. I doesn't see Galactus getting a single attack in because surfer can either drain the PC directly from him ore simply direct all Galactus attacks back at him.

And the Gem grants infinite power

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig40yf.jpg

Also all Doctor Strange attacks in the infinite sage with Warlock having the IG Strange gets owned by the Power Gem alone.

Originally posted by Juntai
I won't require scans, I've read the arcs.

The Keeper is an alternate reality. Not part of current continuity.
Even so, I'm doubting he's doing to do that mid-fight.

Leaving out the Keeper then, Silver Surfer can still literally exist everywhere or nowhere in space that he wants to with simply the Power Gem and the Space Gem.

People think that the space gem is simply for teleportation - this is wrong. That is the most basic use of it. Look at what Rune did with just a single gem - the Time gem - and no others, with full understanding of it. He literally froze time throughout all of universe-616 at once. That's universe level power, with just a single gem and understanding of it.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Thanos showed what the gems could do individually before he showed what they can all do together. It will take me a while to dig up the scans, I will post them later.

I don't need scans. I know almost all of Thanos's feats off the top of my head... and I have the comics.

Anyway, how exactly is Surfer going to beat Galactus?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I know. However, the Gems seem to work better in unison, than alone.

I don't need scans. I know almost all of Thanos's feats off the top of my head... and I have the comics.

Anyway, how exactly is Surfer going to beat Galactus?

O.P. stipulated that he has full working knowledge of the gems. Meaning it's not like the Elders who had no idea what they did other than the side effects.

Full knowledge of the individual gems has been demonstrated several times - by Thanos, by Adam Warlock, and by Rune - they all showed what individual gems can do. Since you don't need scans, you should know what I'm referring to with the space gem.

The reason that the gems work better in unison is due to their abilities to enhance the user's awareness of space, time, etc. and the power gem to back it up. The power gem is the foundation of the other gems. With full knowledge of the power gem alone, surfer could easily drain all of Galactus' energy instantly.

Originally posted by Kutulu
O.P. stipulated that he has full working knowledge of the gems. Meaning it's not like the Elders who had no idea what they did other than the side effects.

Full knowledge of the individual gems has been demonstrated several times - by Thanos, by Adam Warlock, and by Rune - they all showed what individual gems can do. Since you don't need scans, you should know what I'm referring to with the space gem.

The reason that the gems work better in unison is due to their abilities to enhance the user's awareness of space, time, etc. and the power gem to back it up. The power gem is the foundation of the other gems. With full knowledge of the power gem alone, surfer could easily drain all of Galactus' energy instantly.

I know what you're referring to. And the Rune thing was shit. He got beat by Surfer...

Even then. The Power Gem alone is not enough to beat Abstracts... at least what's been depicted of it.

Unless of course, we're using feats from Thanos fighting the Abstracts as proof as to what Surfer will do...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Of course.

I know what you're referring to. And the Rune thing was shit. He got beat by Surfer...

Even then. The Power Gem alone is not enough to beat Abstracts... at least what's been depicted of it.

Unless of course, we're using feats from Thanos fighting the Abstracts as proof as to what Surfer will do...

Try reading what I wrote instead of twisting my words.

You said you know the scans. Go look up the scan where Thanos appears in multiple places at once and says he can be anywhere or nowhere.

Full-knowledge of the gems and Galactus just well fed makes this a shitstomp. Galactus fullpowered is still not a multiversal power, but suppose he can absorb the unlimited power of the gem with his best power: Hunger. He would stalemate at best picking everything Surfer throws at him. This is not just Surfer with the gems, he master them to full potential.

Galan cannot win this.

Examples of what knowledge of only the power gem alone can do (thanks Galan)

Originally posted by Galan007
In order to impress Mistress Death, Thanos decided to give the Universes heroes a chance for victory. So Thanos cut himself off from the Time, Space, Reality, Mind, and Soul Gems. This left him with only the energies of the Power Gem:

Thanos owned and utterly destroyed Quasar /w/ the Quantum Bands...... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Thanos turned Wolvies "indestructible" Adamantium skeleton into rubber 😈....... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Thanos easily shattered Captain America's "indestructible" shield......... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Space gem explained:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig21sb.jpg

Thanos states: "I can be everywhere or nowhere."

Dr. Strange admits all of his artifacts mean nothing against the Power Gem alone:

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, people were asking for proof that Warlock (using ONLY the power Gem) owned Dr. Strange, so here ya go...

Dr. Strange says:

"The [b]Power Gem-- Repository of sheer, raw might, which can litterally do almost anything."

"Against it, NONE of my vaunted Talismans could stand.":

"But knowing in advance that Warlock possessed it, I had arranged for ALL my Talismans to acts together to counteract it."

"An outpouring of power, against power which would lay waste to many a world, if any were near at hand.":

"Power which even I know almost at once cannot long endure.":

Dr. Strange himself just admitted that the Power Gem alone was too much for him and ALL of his talismans to handle. After this, Strange only survived by pleading with Warlock through the Soul Gem, to spare his life.

Stop the Dr. Strange hype. The guy was pwned with one Infinity Gem. He is less than nothing compared to the IG as a whole. [/B]

Originally posted by Kutulu
Try reading what I wrote instead of twisting my words.

You said you know the scans. Go look up the scan where Thanos appears in multiple places at once and says he can be anywhere or nowhere.

I know... I wasn't acknowledging that, as there's nothing more to say. IMO, if the Gems work as well as they do in unison here, then we'd have perhaps depending on how Surfer feels a couple of Surfers (even though, we don't know what it would take to take that one out). And if Surfer was able to create himself like that with just the Power Gem, and the Space Gem, then so be it. I still can't see what it adds... but whatever.

However, using the Rune thing to try and prove a point is kind of... that story was filled with contradictions. He stops time across the universe, and then with a full Gauntlet, gets his hand blown off by Surfer.

Scan showing what the space gem alone can do.
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer04413sl1.jpg

Why couldn't Surfer just shoot Galactus in the face with infinite energy?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
I did. I didn't.

I know... I wasn't acknowledging that, as there's nothing more to say. IMO, if the Gems work as well as they do in unison here, then we'd have perhaps depending on how Surfer feels a couple of Surfers (even though, we don't know what it would take to take that one out). And if Surfer was able to create himself like that with just the Power Gem, and the Space Gem, then so be it. I still can't see what it adds... but whatever.

However, using the Rune thing to try and prove a point is kind of... that story was filled with contradictions. He stops time across the universe, and then with a full Gauntlet, gets his hand blown off by Surfer.

And so this same Surfer who blew off his hand, amped with infinite energy and in possession of the space gem, being able to appear infinite times, in infinite places, with infinite energy, still loses to Galactus?

Whether you consider the Rune event to be PIS or not, it's still canon that the individual gems hold vast power to someone who knows how to use them. It's also canon that the reasons the other gems become so powerful with the infinity gauntlet is that the power gem amps them to an infinite extent. So yes, with only the space and power gems, Surfer could literally make an infinite amount of copies of himself to fight Galactus if he wanted.

Originally posted by Kutulu
And so this same Surfer who blew off his hand, amped with infinite energy and in possession of the space gem, being able to appear infinite times, in infinite places, with infinite energy, still loses to Galactus?

I don't know how to respond to this...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
😐

I don't know how to respond to this...

And Slippyfist concedes the victory to Kutulu. 313

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Galactus shit stomps him. srsly.

fry

Originally posted by batdude123
And Slippyfist concedes the victory to Kutulu. 313

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Well... if he's using Surfer taking off an IG weilder's hand as evidence... 😐

You should have used your photographic memory of the entire event to recall that Galactus would get his shit stomped. srsly.. 😆

I wonder if this would be a viable option...