Silver Surfer (amped) vs. Galactus (moderately fed)

Started by Mr. Slippyfist4 pages

Originally posted by Kutulu
You should have used your photographic memory of the entire event to recall that Galactus would get his shit stomped. srsly.. 😆
You proven nothing though... 😐
Except that Surfer can make more of himself.

And somehow he absorbs Galactus's powers...

Plus, if you believe Surfer can take off an IG wielder's hand... then why can't Galactus do the same?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
You proven nothing though... 😐
Except that Surfer can make more of himself.

And somehow he absorbs Galactus's powers...

Plus, if you believe Surfer can take off an IG wielder's hand... then why can't Galactus do the same?

I've already posted the scans which you have memorized. You already know in your mind you have lost this argument. Surfer with full working knowledge of the Power Gem would literally one-shot Galactus before he had time to do anything.

This isn't a dumb user of the gem, it's full working knowledge as stipulated in the original post. If Surfer suddenly had the gems and was like "oh let's attack Galactus! DUR!" then yes he would get his shit stomped.

Surfer with full working knowledge? Galactus doesn't stand a chance in hell.

Yes Bran give it a brake, I admit that the uber PIS of the shooting off the hand had to be mentioned but he makes a coherent argument for the rest.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I've already posted the scans which you have memorized. You already know in your mind you have lost this argument. Surfer with full working knowledge of the Power Gem would literally one-shot Galactus before he had time to do anything.

This isn't a dumb user of the gem, it's full working knowledge as stipulated in the original post. If Surfer suddenly had the gems and was like "oh let's attack Galactus! DUR!" then yes he would get his shit stomped.

Surfer with [b]full working knowledge? Galactus doesn't stand a chance in hell. [/B]

😐

Based off of? Unlimited power? Or is it him beating Dr Strange?

Also, the only way that works, is if we are using the Power Gem from a full IG. And if we are using that, then Nebula (who has terrible logic of it), was able to defeat Abstracts with the IG/Power Gem/Blasts. Which makes you wonder... Her knowledge is about as limited as the Elders... and somehow her blasts were able to hold back the Abstracts. Power Gem<<<<Power Gem with other gems based off of what seems to be shown.

Plus, your argument is theoretical. Because A did this with a Time Gem, then B must be able to destroy etc with the Power Gem?

Although, Thanos with the Power Gem was being punched around by heroes... "Was he depowered, or was he just using the Power Gem?" is a question that arrises... but still. 😬

I will break it down for you one more time.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Surfer has full working knowledge of both gems.

He is also fighting for the fate of Earth. If he doesn't stop Galactus Earth is doomed. This means he will do anything within his power in order stop him.

Full working knowledge. That means he knows everything the two gems can do, and how to do it.

Power gem alone:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig40yf.jpg
"THE GEM OF POWER: It backs the might of the other five Jewels of Infinity."
This means that he can use the Power Gem to infinitely amp the space gem. INFINITELY.

Examples of what the power gem alone can do:

Originally posted by Galan007
Ok, people were asking for proof that Warlock (using ONLY the power Gem) owned Dr. Strange, so here ya go...

Dr. Strange says:

"The [b]Power Gem-- Repository of sheer, raw might, which can litterally do almost anything."

"Against it, NONE of my vaunted Talismans could stand.":

"But knowing in advance that Warlock possessed it, I had arranged for ALL my Talismans to acts together to counteract it."

"An outpouring of power, against power which would lay waste to many a world, if any were near at hand.":

"Power which even I know almost at once cannot long endure.":

Dr. Strange himself just admitted that the Power Gem alone was too much for him and ALL of his talismans to handle. After this, Strange only survived by pleading with Warlock through the Soul Gem, to spare his life.

Stop the Dr. Strange hype. The guy was pwned with one Infinity Gem. He is less than nothing compared to the IG as a whole. [/B]

Originally posted by Galan007
In order to impress Mistress Death, Thanos decided to give the Universes heroes a chance for victory. So Thanos cut himself off from the Time, Space, Reality, Mind, and Soul Gems. This left him with only the energies of the Power Gem:

Thanos owned and utterly destroyed Quasar /w/ the Quantum Bands...... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Thanos turned Wolvies "indestructible" Adamantium skeleton into rubber 😈....... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Thanos easily shattered Captain America's "indestructible" shield......... Using ONLY the Power Gem:

Space gem:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig21sb.jpg
"THE SPACE GEM: Distance becomes a mere intellectual concept. I consider the possibility and I am there. I can be everywhere or nowhere.

Thanos demonstrates the space gem's powers by themselves to Silver Surfer:
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer04413sl1.jpg
"We can be anywhere! We can be everywhere! We can be nowhere!". Backed by the power gem, Surfer can duplicate himself infinite times through translocation if he wanted to. Distance holds no meaning.

unless Galactus can act first and decisively Galactus is dead.

I think Galactus would take this 10/10 against an 'in-character' Surfer as, more likely than not Surfer would be lost in his own thoughts until the battle had well and truly started. whereas Galactus would be aware of him and his threat from the other side of the universe. it's really a weakness of not existing on the scale of Galactus, he has genuine Cosmic Awareness and can read the universe like a book, Surfer is a mere fairground fortuneteller by comparison, blind to the greater reality.

Surfer gets the gems, Galactus warps reality so that Surfer's contained in a coordinate of space without realising it. Galactus then sends out heralds to go back in time and prevent Surfer from obtaining the gems.

if Surfer gets the first shot in, game over for Galactus. Surfer cracks open Galactus' armour and then proceeds to munch down heartily upon the cosmic energies inside.

"in character": Galactus 10/10.
using the gems to maximum potential: Surfer 10/10

Originally posted by Kutulu
I will break it down for you one more time.

[b]Full working knowledge. That means he knows everything the two gems can do, and how to do it.

Power gem alone:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig40yf.jpg
"THE GEM OF POWER: It backs the might of the other five Jewels of Infinity."
This means that he can use the Power Gem to infinitely amp the space gem. INFINITELY.

Examples of what the power gem alone can do:

Space gem:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig21sb.jpg
"THE SPACE GEM: Distance becomes a mere intellectual concept. I consider the possibility and I am there. I can be everywhere or nowhere.

Thanos demonstrates the space gem's powers by themselves to Silver Surfer:
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer04413sl1.jpg
"We can be anywhere! We can be everywhere! We can be nowhere!". Backed by the power gem, Surfer can duplicate himself infinite times through translocation if he wanted to. Distance holds no meaning. [/B]

To be fair, a moderately fed Galactus>>>>all those heroes combined that fought Thanos with the power gem, so it's not really all that relevant.

Originally posted by Kutulu
I will break it down for you one more time.

[b]Full working knowledge. That means he knows everything the two gems can do, and how to do it.

Power gem alone:
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig40yf.jpg
"THE GEM OF POWER: It backs the might of the other five Jewels of Infinity."
This means that he can use the Power Gem to infinitely amp the space gem. INFINITELY.

Examples of what the power gem alone can do:

Space gem:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig21sb.jpg
"THE SPACE GEM: Distance becomes a mere intellectual concept. I consider the possibility and I am there. I can be everywhere or nowhere.

Thanos demonstrates the space gem's powers by themselves to Silver Surfer:
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?image=silversurfer04413sl1.jpg
"We can be anywhere! We can be everywhere! We can be nowhere!". Backed by the power gem, Surfer can duplicate himself infinite times through translocation if he wanted to. Distance holds no meaning. [/B]


Except there's a school of thought which says that Thanos didn't only use the power gem... The school of thought which believes what Thanos actually said: That he was cutting himself from the gems sensory imput. AKA he was no longer using cosmic awareness and could be taken by surprise. At NO point does it say that he was only using the power gem.

Originally posted by Tenebrous
To be fair, a moderately fed Galactus>>>>all those heroes combined that fought Thanos with the power gem, so it's not really all that relevant.

Agreed but still the power gem at full working capacity is IMO simply to much to overcome even for Galactus.

But what would happen if Galactus take out the power cosmic from SS?