What makes a character a good character?

Started by JakeTheBank10 pages

Retcon punching.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
And you hate the character.

What I posted is true, Apoc is 50% god and the other 50% of him is pure win.


So I guess characters that are half win and half God spend most of their time losing? Neat perspective you've got there, Cupcake.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
And you hate the character.

What I posted is true, Apoc is 50% god and the other 50% of him is pure win.

Don't fuck up my thread with BS, please. 🙂

Most others are actually posting legitimate rationales behind what makes a good character, or why they think a certain character is a good character.

If you're not going to do the same, then GTFO. doped

Bad-ass characters = good.
Non bad-ass characters = not good.

Big cosmic guys that wear purple = bad-ass BTW.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So I guess characters that are half win and half God spend most of their time losing? Neat perspective you've got there, Cupcake.

And how many times has Darkseid successfuly managed to defeat the heroes?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Don't fuck up my thread with BS, please. 🙂

Most others are actually posting legitimate rationales behind what makes a good character, or why they think a certain character is a good character.

If you're not going to do the same, then GTFO. doped

What I said is 100% true.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Bad-ass characters = good.
Non bad-ass characters = not good.

Big cosmic guys that wear purple = bad-ass BTW.

And Apocalypse is bad-ass. So he is a great character.

some kind of vision is required:
heat vision
martian vision
radiation vision
laser vision
double vision

etc

Originally posted by TheTyrant
And how many times has Darkseid successfuly managed to defeat the heroes?

Final Crisis. He ruled the Earth for at least three or four issues. He's also beaten the snot out of Superman more than once.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Final Crisis. He ruled the Earth for at least three or four issues. He's also beaten the snot out of Superman more than once.

He also nearly succeeded in dragging an entire Multiverse into his soul merely by virtue of existing. Not something Apocalypse will ever come close to doing.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Final Crisis. He ruled the Earth for at least three or four issues. He's also beaten the snot out of Superman more than once.

Apocalypse has ruled earth before...for longer than 4 days. Plus alot of Apoc's plans only get foiled because of Cable, who comes from the future.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He also nearly succeeded in dragging an entire Multiverse into his soul merely by virtue of existing. Not something Apocalypse will ever come close to doing.

Darkseid is significantly more powerful than Apocalypse. Not a fair comparison.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Apocalypse has ruled earth before...for longer than 4 days. Plus alot of Apoc's plans only get foiled because of Cable, who comes from the future.

DS has ruled the Earth on 3 different occasions previously, in one story he ruled it for over a decade.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Darkseid is significantly more powerful than Apocalypse. Not a fair comparison.

Power has nothing to do with how bad or good a character is.

Originally posted by Allankles
DS has ruled the Earth on 3 different occasions previously, in one story he ruled it for over a decade.

Seid has alot more resources than Apocalypse, and doesn't have an enemy that comes back in time nearly every time to help the heroes that he specially jobs to foil his plans.

Power has nothing to do with how bad or good a character is.

Never said it did.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Daredevil, for example, has not had a bad comic released since Kevin Smith wrote #1 of Vol. 2, just my opinion. Even when Daredevil has had some less that stellar writers, it was always "Meh" or "Ok", never shit, because he's a great character.

Just my opinion.

-AC

Meh, I don't think that holds up. No matter how good a character is, it's always possible for a writer to write a bad arc for them. Daredevil has been lucky, but maybe that's because he's an easier character to write for than some.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Seid has alot more resources than Apocalypse, and doesn't have an enemy that comes back in time nearly every time to help the heroes that he specially jobs to foil his plans.

Never said it did.


No but what DS does have is an entire planet of superpowered Gods with insanely advanced tech and a warrior destined to one day kill him foiling his plans.

And Superman. Don't forget Superman.

But this isn't a contest between DS and crapocalypse.

People who think a character needs to be powerful to be a good character or can't actually name actual aspects of character, don't know what a good character really is, imo.

I'd say that, as far as internet posters go, a healthy majority like comic characters soley for how powerfull they are.

It's why characters like Sentry, Gladiator etc. have fans.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I'd say that, as far as internet posters go, a healthy majority like comic characters soley for how powerfull they are.

It's why characters like Sentry, Gladiator etc. have fans.


For me that's only half of it. A lot of it is about attitude. Sentry's powerful sure but he's also a whiny puss which would be forgivable if he were more compelling as a character.

I'd love to pretend that for me power doesn't come into deciding that a character is cool but I'd just be pretending. 😂

I personally like how power-sets and personality coincide with one another. Most of my favorite characters are High Heralds or above, but they also have in-depth personalities. Also, the less PIS-y the character is, the better.

Near enough 12 years of "lucky", Smurph? With as many differently styled writers as Smith, Bendis, Mack, Brubaker and Diggle? Call me Winona Ryder, cos I'm not buying that rubbish.

To add to what Philosophia said: that's precisely why so many people on this board are disappointed with comics. They are fans of power set, not character. They expect power set to be adhered to all the time.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Darkseid is significantly more powerful than Apocalypse. Not a fair comparison.

You made it, not us.

Also, if you wanna claim something as truth, it has to be fact. What you said is opinion, not fact.

-AC

depends on the character. Power does come into play but that should take a back seat to the character. Some characters are just far reaching so to drastically change their powerset is gonna raise an eyebrow or too. Its a reason why only a moron would want a character like Batman to exhibit physical powers near supermans. It goes against the grain of what he is.