Originally posted by AOR
I personally believe they'd belong to Catholicism. Given the history of the church and how everything branched from said church.
Not really. Orthodoxy was the original Church, and therefore older than Catholicism. If anything, Catholicism branched off from Mainstream Christianity.
Originally posted by Mindship
Jesus was a devout Jew who had no intention of starting a new faith (that was Saul's doing, who went to the Gentiles because the Jews rejected his claim of Jesus as Messiah).
The Old Testament contains hundreds of prophecies concerning the coming Messiah, and Jesus fills the void (like hand in glove); Jesus came as the "living" Word of God--to teach the truth--and bear the sins of mankind. For further consideration, read Isaiah 53:1-12, written 7 centuries before Jesus we born.
Originally posted by Mindship
Jesus rallied against the ossification of his faith, just like many rally against organized religion today. That Christianity is "something more" than Judaism is ethnocentric thinking, the kind responsible for Christianity's MGIBTYG mindset and its bloody convert-or-die history.
Jesus--God incarnate--had a mission to redeem mankind; period. Jesus did not have faith in the manner in which you propose. Jesus always spoke in "His" Father's name. Jesus is the ultimate revelation of truth. Jesus also spoke on His own authority and proved He was the Son of God by means of resurrection.
Originally posted by Mindship
Further, Jesus=God was Constantine's proclamation, once he adopted the faith.
This completely underminds the "origins" of the Christian Church; if the resurrection had not occurred, the Christian Church would be non-existent, not to mentin vain. And keep in mind, specifically about the passage below, the book of Corinthians was written (about) 3 centuries before Constantine was in power.
"And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14).
Originally posted by ushomefreeChuck Norris >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>jesus
The Old Testament contains hundreds of prophecies concerning the coming Messiah, and Jesus fills the void (like hand in glove); Jesus came as the "living" Word of God--to teach the truth--and bear the sins of mankind. For further consideration, read Isaiah 53:1-12, written 7 centuries before Jesus we born.Jesus--God incarnate--had a mission to redeem mankind; period. Jesus did not have faith in the manner in which you propose. Jesus always spoke in "His" Father's name. Jesus is the ultimate revelation of truth. Jesus also spoke on His own authority and proved He was the Son of God by means of resurrection.
This completely underminds the "origins" of the Christian Church; if the resurrection had not occurred, the Christian Church would be non-existent, not to mentin vain. And keep in mind, specifically about the passage below, the book of Corinthians was written (about) 3 centuries before Constantine was in power.
"And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain" (1 Corinthians 15:14).
EDIT: know what i challenge you to disprove chuck norris being the only god.
There can be little doubt the Apostles and Prophets would identify with the Christian religion today. Many of them gave their lives in honor of their Messiah.
The more pointed question might be: Who's branch of Christianity would they join, if any?
Would they be Roman Catholic, or Eastern Orthodox, or Protestant? If Protestant, then which denomination? Would they choose one of the more fundamental groups, or liberal, or somewhere in between? Would they choose a more evangelical group, or a more charismatic variety, or found a new group of their own? Would they infiltrate any number of different groups and go about setting them straight?
I'm not sure I can answer this question with objective accuracy; each Christian sect dogmatically claims the Apostles and Prophets as their own. But suffice it to say, a great many of us might be surprised.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Not really. Orthodoxy was the original Church, and therefore older than Catholicism. If anything, Catholicism branched off from Mainstream Christianity.
I've heard catholics say the same about the Orthodox. I know it's related to the two popes, any reason in particular you say it is the catholics who split?
The obvious answer is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints because we believe in the same appointments tp priesthood offices as Jesus' appointments.
In fact, Joseph Smith was given the priesthood by Peter, James, John and John the Baptist.
All Mormon doctrine aside, it would seem they would affiliate with the church that best personified Jesus Christ's teachings. One could review all of the doctrine's specific to Christ's teachings and compare that to a modern religion and conclude which one best fits the bill. This would probably have to be done by an objective third party, like atheist or Muslim scholars of religion.
Originally posted by dadudemon
The obvious answer is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints because we believe in the same appointments tp priesthood offices as Jesus' appointments.In fact, Joseph Smith was given the priesthood by Peter, James, John and John the Baptist.
All Mormon doctrine aside, it would seem they would affiliate with the church that best personified Jesus Christ's teachings. One could review all of the doctrine's specific to Christ's teachings and compare that to a modern religion and conclude which one best fits the bill. This would probably have to be done by an objective third party, like atheist or Muslim scholars of religion.
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What makes you think Atheists and Muslims are objective?
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Not really. Orthodoxy was the original Church, and therefore older than Catholicism. If anything, Catholicism branched off from Mainstream Christianity.