Is Christianity really the religion of the prophets and apostles?

Started by peejayd5 pages

* none, in regards to Catholicism and Protestantism... but in terms of belief, i always have faith in the Bible, so i might fill in as sola scriptura... 🙂

Originally posted by peejayd
* none, in regards to Catholicism and Protestantism... but in terms of belief, i always have faith in the Bible, so i might fill in as sola scriptura... 🙂

Is this supposed to be an answer to my question? If so, I don't understand it. I just want to know what your denomination is so I can look it up and have a better idea of what you believe in your religion.

Originally posted by Okieshowedem
Would a prophet or an apostles belong to any of the many Christian religions we have today?

Okieshowedem

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

I'm hearing a maybe.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm hearing a maybe.

Its an absolute. 😉

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Its an absolute. 😉

An absolute maybe?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
An absolute maybe?

........yes! 😛

Re: Is Christianity really the religion of the prophets and apostles?

Originally posted by Okieshowedem
Would a prophet or an apostles belong to any of the many Christian religions we have today?

Okieshowedem

I dont know that they would belong to any specific denomination. I think they would just be preaching the word of God.

How very sad that ALL Christians do not know they too are part of the Catholic religion which is Satan inspired.

http://www.yahweh.com

Okieshowedem

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you have no knowledge of history. There was a time when there was only one Christian church, and that church became the Catholic church.

No. If anything that church became the Orthodox Church.

Hardly...

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
No. If anything that church became the Orthodox Church.
Pretty true. The Orthodox Church was more original to the teaching, however, that still says nothing about any truth of it all. The only truth it explains are the ones implemented by the church its self.

And for a Satan? HAHAHAHAHA...The biggest lie of all. If the church can keep a Satan and a Hell alive then we need a savior. That is their great marketing tool...

It kinda deviated on a big detail though...

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
It kinda deviated on a big detail though...
Which one?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Which one?

Petrine Primacy

Yeah so the Catholics say it's Peter. Why? Cause he stated a sentence about a rock? 😑

How about "Jesus is the corner stone." So, it's Jesus, not Peter. Jesus never appointed Peter to anything.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Petrine Primacy

It doesn't steer away from that. The big difference is if Apostolic Succession works for the Popes, which IMO does not. The Eastern Churches were first and had a larger connection to the Apostles as a whole.

I dunno. But they believe in Christ. But that's what Christianity is all about, the belief in Christ.

Originally posted by Deja~vu
Yeah so the Catholics say it's Peter. Why? Cause he stated a sentence about a rock? 😑

How about "Jesus is the corner stone." So, it's Jesus, not Peter. Jesus never appointed Peter to anything.

The actual line from matthew 16:18 is "Tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam"
Looking at the latin itself one can see the difficulty in translating what each word comes out to in english (Peter's name literally translates to rock)

Petrus/Petram; you see the similarity?

It is almost certain that Jesus was referring to Peter as the rock upon which he will build His Church, or even referring directly to Peter.

Furthermore on the idea that the Eastern Orthodox Church was the true Church, one only needs to look to the next line, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." This means that Peter and his direct successors, the Popes, have direct athority from Jesus Christ to teach to the Church. When the Eastern Church broke from the apostolic succession of Peter by following the Patriarch, they lost all of their authority from Jesus Christ. This line also explains the rarely used Doctrine of Infallibility, for Christ allowed Peter and his direct successors to "bind what must be bound in heaven".

One may believe in Christ, but if one ignores his teachings about His one Church, then their belief is in vain.

The Church that Jesus founded was the one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

Originally posted by Transfinitum
The actual line from matthew 16:18 is "Tu es Petrus et super hanc petram aedificabo ecclesiam meam"
Looking at the latin itself one can see the difficulty in translating what each word comes out to in english (Peter's name literally translates to rock)

Petrus/Petram; you see the similarity?


When you want to prove something with a later translation, you go back to Greek not Latin. In Greek, it's actually pretty different from Latin.

Originally posted by Transfinitum
Furthermore on the idea that the Eastern Orthodox Church was the true Church, one only needs to look to the next line, "Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." This means that Peter and his direct successors, the Popes, have direct athority from Jesus Christ to teach to the Church. When the Eastern Church broke from the apostolic succession of Peter by following the Patriarch, they lost all of their authority from Jesus Christ. This line also explains the rarely used Doctrine of Infallibility, for Christ allowed Peter and his direct successors to "bind what must be bound in heaven".

Why are the Popes his direct descendants? The majority were in no Apostolic or holy, and they came way after the Patriarchs of the Eastern Church, meaning they had much less claim to be descending from the beginning church because the first churches were in the East, not West.
Originally posted by Transfinitum
The Church that Jesus founded was the one Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.

And yet, not one of those words is use to describe the Church in the Bible. Hm.