The Spectre vs Thanos w/ig

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok, you're right,
that's even better for my argument.

IMO, it's impossible for Marvel to be simultaneously a single Megaverse,
that contains atleast multiple MegaverseS withIN.

The notion is completely senseless.

Yes, I believe it was out of respect for Gruenwald Marvel included that info in one handbook.

Erik hasn't posted not even one scan that depicts Marvel as a Megaverse on panel.

He posted a single bio,
I posted Two bios, with 5 On Panel confirmations.

So let's also accept the rest,
not only our preferred instances.

According to that cross-over garbage,

1. Toaa created DC,
2. Wanda, Alien Entity, Entropy/Genis heck, even Sis-Neg,
all Remade the DC reality.
3. Marvel is just a single Multiverse.
4. Flash/Haweye > Krona (who defeated all the items)

Finally, the Celestial Guardians of Marvel can erase DC anytime they wish.

Sweet, I like it.

I see, I don't know what those items are doing there, (I'll look into the other issues)
but this is beyond ridiculous if,

if indeed, it took all those items to merge Two universes,
this garbage is a bigger joke than I ever imagined.

You should be laughing with me.

I partially agree.

It's true what would have happened is unknown,
but the Universes were re=ordering themselves without the Spectre.

I submit, Spectre did finalize the job.

Because you posted a scan trying to suggest that Marvel is a single Megaverse.

I agree, your scan doesn't constrict Marvel to being one Megaverse
in any sense of the word, but I think that was your aim.

Well my 5 On Panel depictions of the Marvel Omniverse does contradict the notion,
accompanied by Two Winter/2007 Marvel bios that confirm Marvel's Omniverse.

On top of that,
LT dealt with Two MegaverseS On Panel and in his bio,
so that right there makes the notion even more moot.

Unless LT manipulated Two MegaverseS withIn one Megaverse. dontgetit

Yea, I agree, that would be ridiculous.

As you wish.

The handbookS I posted from said Marvel is an Omniverse.
The On Panel proof is irrefutable, the Omniverse is literally illustrated so ...

this is why I won't debate this further, cause there is no debate.

When reffering to all comic lines, Marvel represents a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse containing all comic books Universes, from all the companies.

Nobody is disputing the fact that Marvel reffers to their totality as an Omniverse, but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't one, because it doesn't contain all the comic book companies.

Seriously, this is quite simple to understand.

Marvel reffers to their totality as an Omniverse.

When taking into account all the comic book companies, their totality is a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse, which encompasses all the Universes from all the Comic Books.

Nothing is contradicting anything.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
When reffering to all comic lines, Marvel represents a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse containing all comic books Universes, from all the companies.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Nobody is disputing the fact that Marvel reffers to their totality as an Omniverse, but it doesn't change the fact that it isn't one, because it doesn't contain all the comic book companies.

Other comic book companies have nothing to do with Marvel's continuity,
therefore, other comic book companies are of no consequence.

The Marvel Omniverse simply means ... All Universes in Marvel.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Seriously, this is quite simple to understand.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Marvel reffers to their totality as an Omniverse.

A totality with multiple MegaverseS,
which logically equals to something greater than ... A ... Megaverse.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
When taking into account all the comic book companies,
their totality is a Megaverse from the larger Omniverse,
which encompasses all the Universes from all the Comic Books.

It's absurd for Marvel to contain multiple MegaverseS within one Megaverse,
or are you messing with me?

Again, I ain't gonna take into consideration anything outside of Marvel comics.,
when it concerns ONLY Marvel comics.

Originally posted by Erik-Lensherr
Nothing is contradicting anything.

Please calm down master it is only a friendly debate. 🙂 and I have yet to see the circles.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Ok, you're right,
that's even better for my argument.

Doesn't quiet see how since now a cosmic cube = equel a feat from the IG.

IMO, it's impossible for Marvel to be simultaneously a single Megaverse,
that contains atleast multiple MegaverseS withIN.

The notion is completely senseless.[/B]

How big can a warp look on the outside master and how large can it in reality be???

Yes, I believe it was out of respect for Gruenwald Marvel included that info in one handbook.[/B]

Good then thats settled.

Erik hasn't posted not even one scan that depicts Marvel as a Megaverse on panel.[/B]

never said he did.

He posted a single bio,
I posted Two bios, with 5 On Panel confirmations.[/B]

I know updated bios, and actually showings that is all from after 2000

So let's also accept the rest,
not only our preferred instances.

According to that cross-over garbage,

1. Toaa created DC,
2. Wanda, Alien Entity, Entropy/Genis heck, even Sis-Neg,
all Remade the DC reality.
3. Marvel is just a single Multiverse.
4. Flash/Haweye > Krona (who defeated all the items)

Finally, the Celestial Guardians of Marvel can erase DC anytime they wish.[/B]

I don't accept it master I said that from a DC point of view it is canon, but that is off no concern to you since you main area of expertice and knowlegde is Marvel, so all that shall concern you is that marvel doesn't see it as canon which is all that matter in the end but when a crossover battle is begun like in this thread both companies openions of there characters powerset must be taken into account.

Sweet, I like it.[/B]

Arhh the sarcasme.

I see, I don't know what those items are doing there, (I'll look into the other issues)
but this is beyond ridiculous if,[/B]

It is a ridiculous comic from a marvel standpoint. Correct.

if indeed, it took all those items to merge Two universes,
this garbage is a bigger joke than I ever imagined.[/B]

No exactly a low feat since it was the 616 that was merged with a DC universe, too entirely different built universes was merged, also in a instant the items was optained in a game Krona and Grandmaster played.

You should be laughing with me.[/B]

I do master I do don't worry, all I'm bringing forth is:

1: According to DC the JLA/Avengers is canon, thus form there point of view Spectre > All previous mentioned items.
2: Non Canon by Marvel thus inconsiqientiel to the currect hierarchy in marvel.

I partially agree.

It's true what would have happened is unknown,
but the Universes were re=ordering themselves without the Spectre.

I submit, Spectre did finalize the job.[/B]

In a way we doesn't know 🙂 but agreed Spectre finished a Job we doesn't even know if had ever begun.

Btw Master I just wanted to tell you that I know that Marvel has the size of a omniverse, none is disregarding that, but there are two Omniverses from my point of view Marks describtion of it and Marvels. The "aucthentic" and the comic related part.

Btw It was in a Quasar Comic that the omniverse was first introduced correct, in what 1992, who was the writer of that comic???

Originally posted by Utrigita
Please calm down master it is only a friendly debate.
and I have yet to see the circles.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Btw It was in a Quasar Comic that the omniverse was first introduced correct,
in what 1992, who was the writer of that comic???

Glad you asked that question though,
for it was Gruenwald himself that wrote the Quasar joint.

So go figure. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

Who's losing control, or showing agitation towards you?

Sorry just found some places where I thought that you was building up a temper.

What?

You said,
Spectre separated the two Universes,
I said
"big deal, Incomplete IG merged Two universes in an instant, (616 & it's duplicate)
and the same Incomplete IG separated both Universes as well."
Then you said,
"If I remember correct to did a Cosmic Cube alone too,
merge the 616 with a alternate universe
it was Doom's doing well you have given me the story once."
I replied,
"Correct"
Then you came back with an unrelated topic,
"doesn't see the reason why you brought up the incident
with the five cubes when you knew that one could accomplish it."

Although, I never brought up Cubes, you did.
I brought up the Incomplete IG.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474312&pagenumber=3[/B]

Ahh thats probably becayse I cannot think straight anymore 😂

I don't see what this has to do with concerning Marvel's totality.

Marvel is an Omniverse that contains multiple MegaverseS[/B]

And so far I haven't disagreed with you have I???

That it was out of respect and meant nothing?

I agree.[/B]

lets just say that.

You prefer earlier bios, say the word friend.

I figured you'd enjoy the latest info since 2000, but if you want more, I gots. 🙂[/B]

I did indeed but as said before, before that Marvel IMO didn't have that standpoint as they do now.

Spectre fans can bring out all his feats if they wish (in DC Comics)
but if Spectre fans are going to bring up cross-over garbage as a means of feats,
then we better accept everything in the garbage.

That is:

1. Toaa created DC,
2. Wanda, Alien Entity, Entropy/Genis heck, even Sis-Neg,
all Remade the DC reality.
3. Marvel is just a single Multiverse.
4. Flash/Haweye > Krona (who defeated all the items)

Finally, the Celestial Guardians of Marvel can erase DC anytime they wish.
..............................................................................................................

That's why it's best to keep it withIN the respective companies.[/B]

See Galactic Storm in your thread... And Again no matter what when discussing cross over both characters powerset must be taken into account, Lets say that We have on panel a cross over fight with Thanos with the IG owning Spectre, that is regarded as canon by Marvel but not by DC, then I would bring that forth in battle if there was a reason to do it, like there IMO is in this case.

From any stand point when you consider the power of those Marvel items.[/B]

Agreed

Seriously, what took place in that arc is meaningless to me Ut.[/B]

I know fully well Master, and again we isn't actually discussing the battle but more the way sch a incident should be looked on when one side decides to call it canon and the other side doesn't 🙂

Nah, only the DC items count friend.

Marvel has thankfully detached itself form that crap.[/B]

From marvels view point (the reason why I hate crossover battles) but with DC's eyes Spectre would be fully capable of owning these items laugable agreed, should be totally disregarded when discussing a situation when both the Spectre and the IG was involved no.

hmm, I have to disagree,
On Panel the two Universes were re-ordering themselves:

"Reality is Re-Ordering itself" (Spectre finished the job)

In fact, as you can read, immediately after Krona got owned by Flash & Hawkeye,
everything began to return to normal,
unless the Spectre is a cruel bastard, (or coward)
that he decided to interfere the instant Krona was gone.[/B]

Again the later part of MM's statement is forgotten Master

Fair enough,
but I see, I don't understand why it's so difficult to just see the term Omniverse,
for what it is,
"All Universes"
(this can easily, logically, without contradicting anything
be subjected to a respective fictional reality)

ie.

I create a comic book company, I have many UniverseS in my books,
I have many MultiverseS in my books, I even have MegaverseS,
instead of me having to repeat all three terms again, and again,
I have one term ... Omniverse,
simply means the sum of all UniverseS in my respective company.[/B]

Fine no need to discuss it any further 🙂

Actually it was first mentioned in 1983 in Moore's UK titles published by Marvel.
Jaspers saga and all.[/B]

Which at that point of time wasn't canon.

Glad you asked that question though,
for it was Gruenwald himself that wrote the Quasar joint.

So go figure. 🙂 [/B]

My point for you 🙂 Because I asked this question was that if the author of the Omniverse theory says in a Marvel Comic that Quasar was in the Omniverse then he is indirectly saying marvels omniverse. See...