Superman vs wwh.

Started by horrorwolf16 pages

lol...its also hilarious that you mentioned hype...because Superman is generally hyped far more than Hulk, Wonderwoman, Batman, SSurfer, and even Thor.

Someone who can move at the speed of light, shoot lasers from his eyes at will, use his momentum to push planets out of orbit....can't even deal with the likes of Lex Luthor....or even contain him? right.

Why would he ever struggle with the likes of Mongul or Grundy?...instead of instantaneously pwning them? I'll tell you why...either hes stupid....or all fanboy hype (Hes not nearly as powerful as you make him out to be)

Originally posted by horrorwolf
lol...its also hilarious that you mentioned hype...because Superman is generally hyped far more than Hulk, Wonderwoman, Batman, SSurfer, and even Thor.

Someone who can move at the speed of light, shoot lasers from his eyes at will, use his momentum to push planets out of orbit....can't even deal with the likes of Lex Luthor....or even contain him? right.

Why would he ever struggle with the likes of Mongul or Grundy?...instead of instantaneously pwning them? I'll tell you why...fanboy hype.

Also Superman got hit easily by Shaggy Man / General Eiling, just one example, who is by no means a speedster. In fact Superman has a long history of getting tagged by characters who aren't sub-luminal in speeds.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Also Superman got hit easily by Shaggy Man / General Eiling, just one example, who is by no means a speedster. In fact Superman has a long history of getting tagged by characters who aren't sub-luminal in speeds.

Exactly...and The list goes on...

The writers do acknowlege physics even in comics to a degree, even if you can move extremely fast, gravity must have an effect or you lose striking force. Which is why speedblitzing is rare...it comes as a cost....exertion and kinetic energy...moving almost faster than time doesnt allow any kinetic energy to build...which = less force, less impact, less damage.

Also even when Superman builds up to amazing speeds, he needs time to build force to do it. Thats why some of his biggest feats involves his flight. you must build force to break it.

All these people who believe he will instantly speedblitz anyone are just ignorant fanboys. "Why I bet he could hit him before he could even think" No. you would also lose all force....and then twice the amount of force used to generate that speed would fight against him immediately afterwards.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
lol...its also hilarious that you mentioned hype...because Superman is generally hyped far more than Hulk, Wonderwoman, Batman, SSurfer, and even Thor.

Someone who can move at the speed of light, shoot lasers from his eyes at will, use his momentum to push planets out of orbit....can't even deal with the likes of Lex Luthor....or even contain him? right.

Why would he ever struggle with the likes of Mongul or Grundy?...instead of instantaneously pwning them? I'll tell you why...either hes stupid....or all fanboy hype (Hes not nearly as powerful as you make him out to be)


Because its a comic and in comics that would get boring very fast,its the same reason thor doesnt use one of his many crazy hammer abilities its for the plot,a no PIS superman and especially on this board where they fight to their full potential can do all the speedblitzing he wants.

Think about a boxer who swings and hits someone with the strongest or fastest uppercut they can muster. They are most vulnerable immediately after it ends, because the force they generated is the same force holding them in place after...just doubled.

And its at least twice as strong...if not tripled, depending on distance covered. It doesnt matter how quick or strong the boxer is.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Because its a comic and in comics that would get boring very fast,its the same reason thor doesnt use one of his many crazy hammer abilities its for the plot,a no PIS superman and especially on this board where they fight to their full potential can do all the speedblitzing he wants.

exactly.

The problem is most writers take all things in account to some degree to allow for believabilty...such as physics, gravity, forces...etc....and sadly....most fanboys on this board don't have a clue how this is integrated into comics whatsoever, thus ignore it completely on boards.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
exactly.

The problem is most writers take all things in account...such as physics, gravity, forces...etc....and most fanboys on this board don't have a clue how this is integrated into comics whatsoever.

You apparently being one of them.

Superman kills him fairly fast.

Originally posted by horrorwolf
exactly.

The problem is most writers take all things in account to some degree to allow for believabilty...such as physics, gravity, forces...etc....and sadly....most fanboys on this board don't have a clue how this is integrated into comics whatsoever, thus ignore it completely on boards.

You did read WWH right? He only stepping caused A LOT damage. Unless Hulk weights as much as the moon, it wouldn't happen. MOST WRITERS DON'T TAKE PHYSICS INTO CONSIDERATION.

When the last time you read a Marvel/DC comic? 😕
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Superman wins. WWH didn't demonstrate speed/reflexes to match Supes' speed. Hulk's regeneration isn't fast enough against Superman.

This comes from a guy who doesn't like/follow DC. Following common logic and going by the KMC rules Superman would win.

It'd be different in a comic, that's fo'shizzle. 💃

Originally posted by Nod
You apparently being one of them.

lol ooookk...

If you believe Superman can speedblitz anyone thats your perogative...
but what exactly am I ignoring in your opinion?

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
You did read WWH right? He only stepping caused A LOT damage. Unless Hulk weights as much as the moon, it wouldn't happen. MOST WRITERS DON'T TAKE PHYSICS INTO CONSIDERATION.

When the last time you read a Marvel/DC comic? 😕
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Superman wins. WWH didn't demonstrate speed/reflexes to match Supes' speed. Hulk's regeneration isn't fast enough against Superman.

This comes from a guy who doesn't like/follow DC. Following common logic and going by the KMC rules Superman would win.

It'd be different in a comic, that's fo'shizzle. 💃

Wrong. Writers do take physics in account, just to a lesser degree. Its fanboys who think Superman because he builds up speed over a few panels that imagine he does it instantaneously.

1. Hulks regen >>>>>Wolverines and is just shy of deadpools.
Superman himself doesn't even demonstrate speed/reflexes to match what you claim...which is exactly why he gets tagged by the likes of Shaggy Man / General Eiling / and even Solomon Grundy.

2. You are choosing to ignore Hulk's durability which works in tandem with his regen.

3. Hulk would only get stronger and more pissed during this period. He was fast enough to nail Quicksilver, he will be doing some massive damage to Superman as well.

Hell even bad DC/Marvel fights with Superman have them exchanging blows. So it just wont be nearly as onesided as you wish....according to Superman's own track record.

Which you ignore if it benefits Hulk.

Originally posted by Nod
Which you ignore if it benefits Hulk.

Again, what do I ignore? If you read anything I wrote, My point was that speedblitzing would eventually leave you open to attack if written realistically....which is why it rarely happens in comics at all....whether you like it or not.

the Fact is that Superman rarely uses this speed you claim he has in fights....otherwise there would be no Solomon Grundy after their 1st or even 2nd encounters.

WWh wins any single fight (10/10) as anyone else would say in any other comic boards.

Superman = Top tier
WWH =skyfather

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WWh wins any single fight (10/10) as anyone else would say in any other comic boards.

Superman = Top tier
WWH =skyfather

You are so funny nice joke but seriously who wins? 😱 😆

Originally posted by Rhinoceros
Following common logic and going by the KMC rules Superman would win.

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Common logic and KMC in the same sentence ? 😆

KMC rules ? Dc > Marvel and Hulk loses 😆

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Common logic and KMC in the same sentence ? 😆

KMC rules ? Dc > Marvel and Hulk loses 😆

No how about Logic > Fanboy bias.

Originally posted by iceman24567
You are so funny nice joke but seriously who wins? 😱 😆

Classic Hulk would beat Superman too. See Doomsday if you can't believe.
And WWH is another level. Just ask in any other comics board and see the truth.

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
WWh wins any single fight (10/10) as anyone else would say in any other comic boards.

Superman = Top tier
WWH =skyfather

😆

Originally posted by horrorwolf
Again, what do I ignore? If you read anything I wrote, My point was that speedblitzing would eventually leave you open to attack if written realistically....which is why it rarely happens in comics at all....whether you like it or not.

the Fact is that Superman rarely uses this speed you claim he has in fights....otherwise there would be no Solomon Grundy after their 1st or even 2nd encounters.

And if Hulk really was skyfather level there wouldn't be Leader or anything. Its for the story. Accept it.