Moon Knight vs. Daredevil

Started by King_Mungi4 pages

Originally posted by Battlehammer
yet some of the copies attack as complete idiot and got stompped by guys the actaul character they copied would not.

also do you have the scann of them saying there copies are equal to there original.

I believe you I just wanted it in order for later use.

Like?

Not anymore, but didn't I give you it already as I uploaded a few issues for you months and months ago.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like?

Not anymore, but didn't I give you it already as I uploaded a few issues for you months and months ago.

shit actaully I think you did. dam I go check I should have the issue in my pm, but maybe not. Your were really busy think you were only able to up load a single issue it may not have been that one.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
shit actaully I think you did. dam I go check I should have the issue in my pm, but maybe not. Your were really busy think you were only able to up load a single issue it may not have been that one.

I don't remember, I think you had the 1st issue and maybe I uploaded the 2nd and 3rd issue? I know I didn;t upload the whole mini or any tie-ins.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I don't remember, I think you had the 1st issue and maybe I uploaded the 2nd and 3rd issue? I know I didn;t upload the whole mini or any tie-ins.

ya that likly right. I have a new computer so I don't have the issue you up loaded saved,but I look in my pm's for it lol which will take awhile.

Re: Moon Knight vs. Daredevil

Originally posted by Laguna L
Who takes it?

Moon Knight FTW.

I'd say Moon Knight would win 6-7/10 times. He's got comparable fighting skill and better standard equipment. If this takes place at night, even higher for MK.

Well depends on which incarnation as one version even had adamantium armor & rod.

MK isnt as good as DD h2h. When at peak strength, its hardly a factor
also. If he has adamantium armor, it may cause a problem if DDcant get around it. The rod can be taken away possibly and used against MK.

DD ftw.

I don't see how DD is going to easily take away the rod when Spider-Man, Green Goblin, Nick Fury, etc. couldn't 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I don't see how DD is going to easily take away the rod when Spider-Man, Green Goblin, Nick Fury, etc. couldn't 😬

The only one with any skill there is nick fury and even he not on DD level nor does he know the amount of pressure point attacks that DD does on a regular basis.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
The only one with any skill there is nick fury and even he not on DD level nor does he know the amount of pressure point attacks that DD does on a regular basis.

Then there is also Spider-Man & Green Goblin who are faster, stronger and have better reflexes then DD and couldn't do it. :/

Also yes Nick Fury does use pressure points, but when MK fought Nick, MK was practically toying with him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Then there is also Spider-Man & Green Goblin who are faster, stronger and have better reflexes then DD and couldn't do it. :/

Also yes Nick Fury does use pressure points, but when MK fought Nick, MK was practically toying with him.

spiderman faster and stronger true and better refllexes.

green goblin though is only stronger and has done nothing to suggest superior reflex or combat speed over DD.

spiderman also no were near as skilled, so him being unable to disarm a more skilled opponent is not big deal.

also did either even attempt to disarm him? Likly not.

Nick fury knows pressure points true, but he does not use them often nor is he in the leagues of DD. DD has not had problems disarming the likes of punisher.

DD could likly disarm MK. doesent really matter though since he need not reason to do so when he has weapons of his own.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
green goblin though is only stronger and has done nothing to suggest superior reflex or combat speed over DD.

spiderman also no were near as skilled, so him being unable to disarm a more skilled opponent is not big deal.

also did either even attempt to disarm him? Likly not.

Nick fury knows pressure points true, but he does not use them often nor is he in the leagues of DD. DD has not had problems disarming the likes of punisher.

DD could likly disarm MK. doesent really matter though since he need not reason to do so when he has weapons of his own.

Errrr? No, Green Goblin has superhuman reflexes as well

and when a serious Spider-Man fights Daredevil he nearly killed him

Actually they did, as he had various weapons and they were trying to stop them all to no avail. It's even said he has mastered every weapon created..and yes it was said a few times.

Nick Fury has stalemated Cap a few times, so why is he suddenly being over-looked? Considering Moon Knight isn't Punisher and has superstrength and speed that's sort of a moot point. Even Moon Knight easily avoided gunfire from a bloodlusted Punisher *shrugs*

The thing is Moon Knight has sooo many weapons, not just the rod so it would be extremely hard to disarm him and all his weapons. His accuracy is amazing with his weapons where he can throw one of his darts and bounce all over the place and still hit dead center on it's target. He even did that with swords. I really need to get the respect thread up and running soon 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errrr? No, Green Goblin has superhuman reflexes as well

I know I read spiderman. To bad his feats are below that of DD though.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and when a serious Spider-Man fights Daredevil he nearly killed him

which time? Beucase a blood lusted spiderman ahs also gotten wtf dropped by DD.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually they did, as he had various weapons and they were trying to stop them all to no avail. It's even said he has mastered every weapon created..and yes it was said a few times.

good for him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Nick Fury has stalemated Cap a few times, so why is he suddenly being over-looked?

ya and DD has dropped capt in 3 pannels. Every one has there low showings.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Considering Moon Knight isn't Punisher and has superstrength and speed that's sort of a moot point. Even Moon Knight easily avoided gunfire from a bloodlusted Punisher *shrugs*

hasent he also had constantly a very ahrd time with punisher?

also thought the super speed and strength were only during a full moon.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
The thing is Moon Knight has sooo many weapons, not just the rod so it would be extremely hard to disarm him and all his weapons. His accuracy is amazing with his weapons where he can throw one of his darts and bounce all over the place and still hit dead center on it's target. He even did that with swords. I really need to get the respect thread up and running soon 😬

means close to nothing when your beast enemy is bulls eye

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I know I read spiderman. To bad his feats are below that of DD though.

Then I guess those super reflexes of Spider-Man really don't do much as Green Goblin has never had a hard time hitting him..

Originally posted by Battlehammer

which time? Beucase a blood lusted spiderman ahs also gotten wtf dropped by DD.

Spider-Man was mind-controlled into a blind furry and nearly drowned him. There even was a thread who posted the scans in the comic book section.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

ya and DD has dropped capt in 3 pannels. Every one has there low showings.

Errr? Nick Fury is one of the most skilled fighters, so how is stalemating Cap a bad showing considering his track record?

Originally posted by Battlehammer

hasent he also had constantly a very ahrd time with punisher?.

Moon Knight? No, generally they don't even fight as their friends. I don't recall them even fighting off the top of my head as three apperances they had they have shaked each other hands, and didn't fight until Punisher got venom drug sending him into a blind furry. It lasted a second as Moon Knight caused him to have a epileptic seizure [because of the drug side-effect] so it really wasn't a fight.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also thought the super speed and strength were only during a full moon.

Depends on the incarnation, sometimes yes, sometimes he wouldn't get any power boost, and sometimes he would have super strength in daylight. One version if he was ever knocked out the God Khonsu would arrive and help him.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

means close to nothing when your beast enemy is bulls eye

Funny as he used the bouncy trick on Spider-Man and it worked 😖hifty:

Spector isnt as good as the top tier MA's. Hes slightly above Punisher in that aspect.

In the story where Spidey almost drowned DD, DD was daydreaming before getting himself free. Also note, he took a hit or two from Spidey during that fight.

As far as Fury, Gobby and Spidey being able to unarm MK, is unfair to say that DD would have a difficult time as well. His means by going about it would be totally different from those 3. On paper, DD doesnt have reflexes like Spidey, but on panel, Spidey ALWAYS has a hard time hitting DD.

As far as Fury goes, I know hes among the top MA's, but hes no DD.

MK does have a nice arsenal, but him hitting DD with one of his projectiles is highly unlikely. They did scuffle before and i had the comic. Im trying to get it now. They did stalemate hoewever. Having an adamantium staff wouldnt be as useful/helpful as having the adamantium armor.

With all that said, he still loses to DD for the majority.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Spector isnt as good as the top tier MA's. Hes slightly above Punisher in that aspect.

Agreed

Originally posted by jrodslam

In the story where Spidey almost drowned DD, DD was daydreaming before getting himself free. Also note, he took a hit or two from Spidey during that fight.

and Moon Knight has taken blows from Spider-Man as well *shrugs*

Originally posted by jrodslam

As far as Fury, Gobby and Spidey being able to unarm MK, is unfair to say that DD would have a difficult time as well. His means by going about it would be totally different from those 3. On paper, DD doesnt have reflexes like Spidey, but on panel, Spidey ALWAYS has a hard time hitting DD.

Errr..why? Your basically making it like Moon Knight isn't skilled and dealt with people more skilled then him before. Because he often holds back

Originally posted by jrodslam

As far as Fury goes, I know hes among the top MA's, but hes no DD.

Even if he is, the difference is not large

Originally posted by jrodslam

MK does have a nice arsenal, but him hitting DD with one of his projectiles is highly unlikely. They did scuffle before and i had the comic. Im trying to get it now. They did stalemate hoewever. Having an adamantium staff wouldnt be as useful/helpful as having the adamantium armor.

Why he tagged Spider-Man? He also has gas grenades so it doesn't have to even physically hit. I got it, first Moon Knight tricked DD and cut his billy club line with his dart and the duo crashed into an arcade which messing with DD's radar, and they basically stalemated and stopped so they wouldn't hurt innocent people. That was pre-upgrade Moon Knight though. The adamantium rod can do electrical attacks as well

Originally posted by jrodslam

With all that said, he still loses to DD for the majority.

Like I said depends on the incarnation as one was taking on Wolverine, US Agent, Weapon Omega, She Hulk, Gambit, Nova etc. all in the same issue...and winning . 😬

Originally posted by King_Mungi
and Moon Knight has taken blows from Spider-Man as well *shrugs*

It was mentioned a Bloodlusted Spidey almost killed DD, and i was just tating what happened and what usually does. Defending DD. Not so much discrediting MK.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Errr..why? Your basically making it like Moon Knight isn't skilled and dealt with people more skilled then him before. Because he often holds back

How am i making it like MK isnt skilled? I said he was slightly better than Punisher. I know MK has fought people with more skill than him. Plus ALL heroes hold back. How am i making ti seem like MK isnt skilled? Im just saying hes not as good as DD.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Even if he is, the difference is not large

In pure skill? I think it is. Im pure fighting ability? No, it isnt large.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Why he tagged Spider-Man? He also has gas grenades so it doesn't have to even physically hit. I got it, first Moon Knight tricked DD and cut his billy club line with his dart and the duo crashed into an arcade which messing with DD's radar, and they basically stalemated and stopped so they wouldn't hurt innocent people. That was pre-upgrade Moon Knight though. The adamantium rod can do electrical attacks as well

Hes tagged Spidey. Great. I just think DD is better as dodging certain types of things than Spidey. His radar give him more of an idea of what the weapon is. DD has dealt with all types of grenades, so its unsure how effective a gas grenade would be. Yea, i just got the issue with their tussle. The rod having electrical attacks is nothing new to DD. I just saying DD dodging MK'a attacks will happen more often than not.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Like I said depends on the incarnation as one was taking on Wolverine, US Agent, Weapon Omega, She Hulk, Gambit, Nova etc. all in the same issue...and winning . 😬

It should depend on whats consistant with the character. The one you mention seems like a once in a lifetime version. Waht comics was that anyway? Seems like a trial of champions or something.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Daredevil wins, but it wouldn't be easy at all. Moon Knight puts up a great, bloody fight.

Yes. Very long & drawn out, but I think Matt stands at the end. No disrespect to Marc.

Originally posted by jrodslam
It was mentioned a Bloodlusted Spidey almost killed DD, and i was just tating what happened and what usually does. Defending DD. Not so much discrediting MK.

Understand, as I definetly can see DD winning the majority over some incarnations and others not so sure.

Originally posted by jrodslam

How am i making it like MK isnt skilled? I said he was slightly better than Punisher. I know MK has fought people with more skill than him. Plus ALL heroes hold back. How am i making ti seem like MK isnt skilled? Im just saying hes not as good as DD.

You were implying he could do basically everything to MK with ease, such as removing his weapons. That's what I have a problem with.

Originally posted by jrodslam

In pure skill? I think it is. Im pure fighting ability? No, it isnt large.

Pure fighting ability

Originally posted by jrodslam

Hes tagged Spidey. Great. I just think DD is better as dodging certain types of things than Spidey. His radar give him more of an idea of what the weapon is. DD has dealt with all types of grenades, so its unsure how effective a gas grenade would be. Yea, i just got the issue with their tussle. The rod having electrical attacks is nothing new to DD. I just saying DD dodging MK'a attacks will happen more often than not.

You will be quite impressed with what Moon Knight has dodged in his career, even rivaling Daredevil and yes I know that's a bold statement. Hopefully in a month or so I will have the respect thread done...well if all goes well.

Well he can fire multiple grenades at once as he did for Spider-Man. Did you see how the electrical rod was used?

Originally posted by jrodslam

It should depend on whats consistant with the character. The one you mention seems like a once in a lifetime version. Waht comics was that anyway? Seems like a trial of champions or something.

No it was after his death and resurrection and gaining new weapons and armor.

Marc Spector: Moon Knight [V.3] #41 [It's an Infinity War tie-in], and he gained his new armor in #39

Originally posted by roughrider
Yes. Very long & drawn out, but I think Matt stands at the end. No disrespect to Marc.

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