oh yea, more points. why is it that the sideways velocity needed with respect to the earth of sattelites is REDUCED when they are launched from the equater into space if indeed the earth is not spiining around its own axis and the world is spinning around the earth? most shuttle launch sites are near the equater for this reason. furthermore, why is the weight of people actually reduced by about 1/25th or sumthing along with all things at the equater due to centrifugal affect of the earth spnning INSIDE the earth's own gravitational field{so the reference here is the earth itself and not the universe} if indeed the earth is stationary and the universe is moving around the earth????????? i think this very clearly states the case against geocentrism. reletivity is not really always applicable on bodies spinning around their own axis{which the earth can not according to the geocentric view wheere only the universe moves}