Supermen and magic

Originally posted by Galan007
Not when stated that said version(s) of Superman are specifically immune to magic.

I knew you were gonna say that 😉 I know and ive read the scans that state this. Im looking at the reasons why he could be immune. From my understanding the supermans you are talking about are alot more powerful than other versions so the resistance could be due to their power.

The scans just state that he is resistant but not why. Of course I could be wrong and its not clear cut but I think it could be argued that its a possibility.

Originally posted by Juntai
Except, that's exactly what happened, and to no effect- on panel.

Yes but it could be argued that the reason why it didnt work was because the magic was not powerful enough. Other characters have been at least been able to use strength give SBP trouble, for example I think two superman were able to push SBP into a red sun. Im pretty sure somebody in the DC uinverse could use magic to replicate that strength level. Hell Sodam Yat didnt beat SBP but he gave him hell before he got poisoned why couldnt somebody use magic to imbue them with that much strength?

Because they said so?

Because they said so what?

Also I did an edit.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I knew you were gonna say that 😉 I know and ive read the scans that state this. Im looking at the reasons why he could be immune. From my understanding the supermans you are talking about are alot more powerful than other versions so the resistance could be due to their power.

The scans just state that he is resistant but not why. Of course I could be wrong and its not clear cut but I think it could be argued that its a possibility.

There's no telling what will happen to this immunity once the extra power wears off though.

As far as other Supermen go,
every Superman from the 67th century, up to at least the 853rd century -- are immune to magic, due to the marriage to the Imp Queen.

And the ION powering up a daxamite, was insane levels of powers that I'm quite sure he was using to boost his physical prowess to insane levels, especially when Daxamites are up in power with Kryptonians as it is. Not many characters if at all could probably replicate that kind of boost.

Until Superman gets really pissed of course. lol..

I'm sure he'll eventually be defeated, but so far he's cut swath across everything and everyone thrown at him with relative ease. It's quite clear he's in a class of his own.

Originally posted by Galan007
Prime was just highly resistant to magic, pre-Guardian-kamikaze-attack -- but once that happened, he apparently became completely immune to it...

There's no telling what will happen to this immunity once the extra power wears off though.

Ok.

Originally posted by Galan007

As far as other Supermen go,
every Superman from the 67th century, up to at least the 853rd century -- are immune to magic, due to the marriage to the Imp Queen.

Thats not suprising when you think about it as far as I know imps are immune to everything. Hell I think I saw in the thread that Mxy coudlnt even kill himself. So its like nobody can kill them and they cant kill themselves they're immune to everything.

Originally posted by Juntai
And the ION powering up a daxamite, was insane levels of powers that I'm quite sure he was using to boost his physical prowess to insane levels, especially when Daxamites are up in power with Kryptonians as it is. Not many characters if at all could probably replicate that kind of boost.

Until Superman gets really pissed of course. lol..

I'm sure he'll eventually be defeated, but so far he's cut swath across everything and everyone thrown at him with relative ease. It's quite clear he's in a class of his own.

Well yeah ok sure hes in a class of his own....anyway you get my point? Not denying he is a badass but it just seems its all relative hes resistant to magic but loads of other stuff as well, its just seems that he could be beaten via magic but it depends on how powerful the character is and how it is used.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats not suprising when you think about it as far as I know imps are immune to everything. Hell I think I saw in the thread that Mxy coudlnt even kill himself. So its like nobody can kill them and they cant kill themselves they're immune to everything.

Per Mike Carlin in "Man of Steel #75",
Mxy cannot die, period.

This was evident once again in Countdown #23, when Prime tried to kill a powerless Mxy -- only to find out he simply couldn't.

Originally posted by Galan007
Not all Imps -- just Mxy.

Per Mike Carlin in "Man of Steel #75",
Mxy cannot die, period.

This was evident once again in Countdown #23, when Prime tried to kill a powerless Mxy -- only to find out he simply couldn't.

Ok you sure though because I thought Mxy was a standard version of his race. The other imps I guess though are extremely powerful so that could still explain the resistance. So Mxy is like the superman of imps?

I think you should just start reading DC comics. Instead of bs-ing your way through conversations about characters and stories you have no clue about. 🙂

*sigh*

Originally posted by Alfheim
Happy now? 👆

Originally posted by Juntai
Well you're apperently interested in the characters a lot, and like to get into deep discussions about the characters/stories.. I just figure it helps when you know what you're talking about- ie; reading the source material.

Yeah and i'll read it when im ready. Obvoulsy though I have some knowledge of the characters. This is just a discussion forum and I wanted a discussion, not need to be rude about it. 😐

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok you sure though because I thought Mxy was a standard version of his race. The other imps I guess though are extremely powerful so that could still explain the resistance. So Mxy is like the superman of imps?

Do you not know much about Mxy, or what?

Originally posted by Galan007
'Standard version'? 🤨

Do you not know much about Mxy, or what?

No I dont thats why I said I 'thought'. 😐

Originally posted by Alfheim
Obvoulsy though I have some knowledge of the characters.

😂 🤣 😆 😆 🤣 😂

@ wikipedia.

🙂.

Originally posted by Soljer
😂 🤣 😆 😆 🤣 😂

@ wikipedia.

🙂.

Yeah basically wiki and respect threads. You can get basic info on characters but not in depth.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No I dont thats why I said I 'thought'. 😐

Ultimator is a being who encompases ALL there is -- it destroyed dimensions 9-6 -- it was eating 5-D Imps like candy... Mxy, [unlike every other Imp which encountered Ultimator], not only avoided absorption, but took a blast to the face from this creature, with no ill-effect.

Mxy is the only character in comics I know of, which was banned from death by a member of the DC staff (Carlin).

Mxy is the only character I've seen not only breach the 4th wall, but visit the 'real' DC staff, punch a few of them in the face, and take a script/draft for an upcoming comic, just to see what happens next.

You ever seen any other being litterally retcon specific characters, with a word? Mxy has.

In fact,
Just read Emperor Joker, and World's Funnest -- then you'll have some sort of bearing. 🙂

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Im quite ignorant on this subject but I would like some info. Whats the deal with Superman and magic? Some verisons of superman are more vulnerable to magic than others. SBP for example does not have a weakness to magic, does this mean he is completely immune or does it simply mean hes not taken out so easily eg SBP does not have a wekaness for getting punched in the face but a sufficently powerful punch will hurt him.

What versions of Superman are completely immune to magic and can magic be used in a different way to hurt them eg a magical bolt will do nothing but if you use magic to give yourself superhuman strength your strength can damage them.

With Superman it varies how he will react to magic. We do know that The Wizard Shazam's magic have affected him. It takes quite a skillful mage to injure a cryptonian.

I think SBP somehow either inherit/stole/gain some of the Anti-Monitor powers from the Sinestro War. Which may have unlocked his greatest power essence. Magic is very sneaky in the DCU. Anyone can perform magic but to trully master it requires years of experience. Case in point Zatanna.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
With Superman it varies how he will react to magic. We do know that The Wizard Shazam's magic have affected him. It takes quite a skillful mage to injure a cryptonian.

I think SBP somehow either inherit/stole/gain some of the Anti-Monitor powers from the Sinestro War. Which may have unlocked his greatest power essence. Magic is very sneaky in the DCU. Anyone can perform magic but to trully master it requires years of experience. Case in point Zatanna.

What's a cryptonian?