Supermen and magic

Started by TricksterPriest3 pages

A Crypt Lord from the planet Krypton. 😖hifty:

Alf, you know Impossible Man? Well, there's a definite possibility that he in fact, is Mr. Mxy.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Alf, you know Impossible Man? Well, there's a definite possibility that he in fact, is Mr. Mxy.
Nah..

Marvel acknowledges the fact that Mxy has/can enter their company -- but they are also acknowleged as completely seperate entities, [thank God].

ppl. please stop overthinking this...SMP is immune to magic simply becuase he is from a universe where magic doesnt exist, the sameway that knite from mainstrea, DCU doesnt affect him

Originally posted by manjaro
ppl. please stop overthinking this...SMP is immune to magic simply becuase he is from a universe where magic doesnt exist

That's ridiculous and stupid. Not that a lot of stuff about Kryptonians isn't ridiculous and stupid but that simply doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That's ridiculous and stupid. Not that a lot of stuff about Kryptonians isn't ridiculous and stupid but that simply doesn't make sense.

Even in the scope of Kryptonians, does it make sense that only Kryptonite Radiation from their own universe can affect them?

It's possible that magic follows the same rule - and since there is no magic in his universe....

Originally posted by Galan007
Nah..

Marvel acknowledges the fact that Mxy has/can enter their company -- but they are also acknowleged as completely seperate entities, [thank God].

😖hifty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mister_Mxyzptlk

Marvel Comics' Impossible Man seems to have been modeled after Mxyzptlk, and writers at DC have suggested that the two characters are one and the same: in Superman vol. 2, #50, Mxyzptlk mentions that he's been "having fun with my new fantastic friends" and later mentions getting "back to my four new friends", referring presumably to the Fantastic Four; he also uses the expression "it's blubbering time" (a play on the Thing's standard battle-cry "it's clobbering time"😉, and says that he's been having "a backlog of mayhem in another dimension", probably referring to the Marvel Universe. Mxyzptlk keeps altering his form constantly in this issue, and also changes into a form similar to that of the Impossible Man, with inverted colors, and says "Sometimes it's just impossible to remember what I look like from world to world." Writers at Marvel, however, clarified this in the Impossible Man's entry in the 2006 edition of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, noting that Mxyzptlk was merely impersonating Impy.

Later on, in 1996, the Impossible Man and Mxyzptlk teamed up in the DC/Marvel crossover story Silver Surfer vs. Superman, in which the two imps combined their powers to swap universes for the Silver Surfer and Superman. Here the power of Impossible Man was more like Mxyzptlk's own reality-warping powers, rather than just shapeshifting. In this comic, Mxyzptlk and Impossible Man have a fight where they keep changing into various characters from their respective universe, for instance The Incredible Hulk and Doomsday. The differences are profoundly displayed between the two characters - chiefly, in that Impossible Man's motive is pure fun and abhors true violence, while Mxyzptlk is darker and more interested in destructive chaos, and to Impossible Man's astonishment and anger, is prone to lying.

....Your right though, but still interesting 😉

Originally posted by Soljer
Even in the scope of Kryptonians, does it make sense that only Kryptonite Radiation from their own universe can affect them?

It's possible that magic follows the same rule - and since there is no magic in his universe....


Not really. I mean... unless his physiology is different in such a way that the normal kryptonite does nothing. The weakness would still be there though and an energy manipulator could find it and apply it.

The magic thing doesn't really make sense. Magic fire still burns things, right? Then again, magic doesn't need to make sense.

On the other hand, maybe SBP is a displaced anomaly. Maybe his body still functions by the rules of his universe. Maybe the kryptonite radiation that affects him cannot be replicated outside his universe due to its differing laws of physics. Maybe magic doesn't work because because he is a foreign body in their universe and it simply doesn't apply to him. Maybe because of this... "filter" of sorts, a 10 point punch translates to a 1 point nudge. Maybe the amount of energy in his universe is much higher. Maybe like that comic someone mentioned the heroes visited "our" universe but their powers were weaker because our universe has less energy. Maybe that is why he's so powerful. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Eunno, I haven't even read it. I just like making theories.

No! I broke my maybe chain!

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Not really. I mean... unless his physiology is different in such a way that the normal kryptonite does nothing. The weakness would still be there though and an energy manipulator could find it and apply it.

The magic thing doesn't really make sense. Magic fire still burns things, right? Then again, magic doesn't need to make sense.

On the other hand, maybe SBP is a displaced anomaly. Maybe his body still functions by the rules of his universe. Maybe the kryptonite radiation that affects him cannot be replicated outside his universe due to its differing laws of physics. Maybe magic doesn't work because because he is a foreign body in their universe and it simply doesn't apply to him. Maybe because of this... "filter" of sorts, a 10 point punch translates to a 1 point nudge. Maybe the amount of energy in his universe is much higher. Maybe like that comic someone mentioned the heroes visited "our" universe but their powers were weaker because our universe has less energy. Maybe that is why he's so powerful. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Eunno, I haven't even read it. I just like making theories.

No! I broke my maybe chain!

Or maybe he just believes he is, and so he is, like Superman does.

Originally posted by Soljer
Even in the scope of Kryptonians, does it make sense that only Kryptonite Radiation from their own universe can affect them?

It's possible that magic follows the same rule - and since there is no magic in his universe....

But characters from different universes have used magic on one another in the past.

Originally posted by Juntai
Or maybe he just believes he is, and so he is, like Superman does.

True. That would be a comical change in the power description. "Can do anything he believes he can do."

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
True. That would be a comical change in the power description. "Can do anything he believes he can do."

It's actually been mentioned about twice on panel that I remember.

To the original thread question: Supes has decent resistance to magic. Disciple had enough power to revert wonder woman back to clay and turn Zauriel into a cherub effortlessly. Superman grew facial hair and was the least affected by this guys powerful magic. The rest of the jla were seriously devolved.

Also, Phantom stranger recently "gifted" Superman with more magic resistance. How permanent that may be...I have no clue, but it's there. Superman has also been spending quite a bit with Zatanna in the last year. It seems he has taken a keen interest in learning more about magics rules.

Primes resistance to it seems top notch.

I wasn't talking about his magic resistance. Just that it would be a goofy thing to see a character can do anything they believe they can do.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I wasn't talking about his magic resistance. Just that it would be a goofy thing to see a character can do anything they believe they can do.

Worked in the Matrix.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Worked in the Matrix.

Least. Imaginative. Defenders of humanity. Ever.

Here's what I don't get why is it kryptonite radiation from that universe doesn't effect him but he sure seems to get a killer buzz form that same universe yellow sun radiation? 😬