Darkseid vs. Surtur

Started by quanchi11215 pages

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
How about cause most of that story contradicts existing canon and is loaded with inconsistencies? Like Batman picking up the staff, causing DS to bleed, Supes doing less damage and being alive in the source, or everyone in the story wearing gloves to protect them from the Staff's power except for Batman? And yes, I pointed out the staff thing twice. That alone is a huge ****up.
Batman amped picked up the staff. So there foes that theory. Batman amped and Superman both caused him to bleed while Kal-el caused him to flee in terror.

Originally posted by Larceny
Oh, so we're now allowed to discount feats we feel don't properly portray a character?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was acting completely out of character.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I know but I think the whole comic was a joke and it didnt add up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I just dont feel its canon

Yes, we are.

So as usual, you ignore what I wrote. And I suppose you didn't notice the numerous other continuity **** ups in that story? And let's not forget Highfather being unable to maintain his connection to Superman because his staff was removed from the wall. When we've seen him communicate via the Staff and even do things like aid Takion when he was still trapped on the wall.

So you can ignore all that and say that the story was completely without PIS or outright ****ups?

Nvr said it was retconned... ermm

Originally posted by quanchi112
Batman amped picked up the staff. So there foes that theory. Batman amped and Superman both caused him to bleed while Kal-el caused him to flee in terror.

AHA! So you admit he was amped. 😉 Btw, did you notice that Desaad, DS and Supes were all wearing the same kind of gloves to protect them from the Staff? 🙄 And yet Batman is not wearing them. Desaad clearly stated that anyone not using those gloves to handle the staff would be vaporized.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AHA! So you admit he was amped. 😉 Btw, did you notice that Desaad, DS and Supes were all wearing the same kind of gloves to protect them from the Staff? 🙄 And yet Batman is not wearing them. Desaad clearly stated that anyone not using those gloves to handle the staff would be vaporized.

Gloves?... Batman don't need no... stinkin' gloves!!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AHA! So you admit he was amped. 😉 Btw, did you notice that Desaad, DS and Supes were all wearing the same kind of gloves to protect them from the Staff? 🙄 And yet Batman is not wearing them. Desaad clearly stated that anyone not using those gloves to handle the staff would be vaporized.
Um... duh? 😕

Batman's the one who forged the staff billions of years ago.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Yes, we are.
Comparing Darkseid who lost his omega powers in an actual story to Thanos who actually appeared in a sg comic out of nowhere who was defeated offpanel because he was trying to destroy all reality again is just nowhere near the same thing. Its about the context. The Thanos story didnt make sense while the Superman Batman one did.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So as usual, you ignore what I wrote. And I suppose you didn't notice the numerous other continuity **** ups in that story? And let's not forget Highfather being unable to maintain his connection to Superman because his staff was removed from the wall. When we've seen him communicate via the Staff and even do things like aid Takion when he was still trapped on the wall.

So you can ignore all that and say that the story was completely without PIS or outright ****ups?

Comics dont have to add up to be canon. they were still acting within character. Darkseid was after his powers and did nothing out of character in this story for it to be suspect.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AHA! So you admit he was amped. 😉 Btw, did you notice that Desaad, DS and Supes were all wearing the same kind of gloves to protect them from the Staff? 🙄 And yet Batman is not wearing them. Desaad clearly stated that anyone not using those gloves to handle the staff would be vaporized.
We dont know what kind of amp Batman had and what it made him capable of. Whatever it did it made him look better than Darkseid in their confrontation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Comparing Darkseid who lost his omega powers in an actual story to Thanos who actually appeared in a sg comic out of nowhere who was defeated offpanel because he was trying to destroy all reality again is just nowhere near the same thing. Its about the context. The Thanos story didnt make sense while the Superman Batman one did.

You're debating semantics. 🙄 And applying a biased viewpoint. They are similar in the respect that neither makes a great deal of sense, and that both are canon, despite some serious 🤨 continuity issues.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're debating semantics. 🙄 And applying a biased viewpoint. They are similar in the respect that neither makes a great deal of sense, and that both are canon, despite some serious 🤨 continuity issues.
No because well the sg comic really had no story or reason for Thanos being in it. It went against how his character grew also. Darkseid was acting the same and it followed up on an earlier story where Ds lost his powers. The Superman/Batman comic is more serious and isnt retarded like the sg comic imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No because well the sg comic really had no story or reason for Thanos being in it. It went against how his character grew also. Darkseid was acting the same and it followed up on an earlier story where Ds lost his powers. The Superman/Batman comic is more serious and isnt retarded like the sg comic imo.

Like the time Thanos was defeated by smoke?

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Like the time Thanos was defeated by smoke?
That was in the adventureverse. It isnt canon either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That was in the adventureverse. It isnt canon either.

And Thanos being defeated by Squirrel Girl happened in the 616 verse.

It is canon. Not matter how much you dislike it.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And Thanos being defeated by Squirrel Girl happened in the 616 verse.

It is canon. Not matter how much you dislike it.

It made no sense and hasnt been mentioned in anything outside tha silly little comic. I have already told you my reasoning and for you to continue to pester me on this issue is well pointless.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
It made no sense

I could use that excuse for a lot of things. And it still wouldn't f*cking matter.

It happened in the main Marvel universe. It's canon (unless Starlin retcons it, like he always does).

Originally posted by quanchi112
and hasnt been mentioned in anything outside tha silly little comic.

Again, not everything gets mentioned...

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have already told you my reasoning.

And your reasoning is lame.

Just as lame as any fanboy's excuses for Darkseid's bad showings.

Anything that Thanos stars in and doesn't involve Starlin is pretty much bound to end up with Thanos looking bad.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Anything that Thanos stars in and doesn't involve Starlin is pretty much bound to end up with Thanos looking bad.
Nah, my favorite Thanos story was by Keith Giffen, and he didn't look bad at all... in fact he had some good showings... very good showings. Ron Marz was pretty good too.

Plus, Starlin also wrote some of Thanos's worst showings ever... IG #4. 😬

Anyway... I wish I knew where to look to go and get SG's official bio... 🙁

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I could use that excuse for a lot of things. And it still wouldn't f*cking matter.

It happened in the main Marvel universe. It's canon (unless Starlin retcons it, like he always does).

Again, not everything gets mentioned...

And your reasoning is lame.

Just as lame as any fanboy's excuses for Darkseid's bad showings.

Anything that Thanos stars in and doesn't involve Starlin is pretty much bound to end up with Thanos looking bad.

So Thanos acting completely out of character in a story and being beaten off panel with little to no story going on isnt a good reason to see it as a joke. Drop it. Until you can prove its canon just drop it.