Originally posted by King_MungiYeah and Herc has taken some good shots as well from the likes of Thor's Hammer.
Hawkman has 4000 years of fighting experience and no I'm not joking.We have seen Hawkman hurt Wonder Woman with his punches and with his mace hurt Martian Manhunter, and even Despero. So I definetly can see some bloody noses for the greeks 😉
I mean honestly if dive enough to Hawkman's well yes he has good feats but Herc just flat outclasses the other team in strength and durability combined.
And he isn't some rookie fighter. A well written Herc could possibly one-shot each of them.
Of course the big thing is that he will have a hard time catching Hawkman because of his flight.
I think Ares beats Aquaman.
Anyways this fight comes down to if Herc can outlast Hawkman long enough to get a hold of him.
Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah and Herc has taken some good shots as well from the likes of Thor's Hammer.I mean honestly if dive enough to Hawkman's well yes he has good feats but Herc just flat outclasses the other team in strength and durability combined.
And he isn't some rookie fighter. A well written Herc could possibly one-shot each of them.
Of course the big thing is that he will have a hard time catching Hawkman because of his flight.
Anyways this fight comes down to if Herc can outlast Hawkman long enough to get a hold of him.
Well yes Herc is stronger, but Hawkman also has a healing factor so keeping him down is tough. He could always put a peice of nth metal on him and let him fly into space.
If Black Adam, Superman, Martian Manhunter can't one-shot Hawkman why would Herc?
and vast vast speed advantage
Hawkman can see Flash vibrating so fast it made him invisible to everyone else...except for Hawkman. SO catching him is going to be hard.
Originally posted by King_MungiI'm just talking about straight up combat without taking BFR or telepathy into play.
Well yes Herc is stronger, but Hawkman also has a healing factor so keeping him down is tough. He could always put a peice of nth metal on him and let him fly into space.If Black Adam, Superman, Martian Manhunter can't one-shot Hawkman why would Herc?
and vast vast speed advantage
Hawkman can see Flash vibrating so fast it made him invisible to everyone else...except for Hawkman. SO catching him is going to be hard.
Ok so he may not on shot-Hawkman but he can physically abuse him.
And I would like to point out that this is the same Hawkman that gets out reacted by Deathstroke 😛
That and it isn't like the guy flies faster than the speed of light.
In fact he flies what Ironman range. Nothing Herc hasn't dealt with before.
The question becomes can he put Herc down before Herc gets the chance to get a hold of him and handle him.
Originally posted by Newjak
I'm just talking about straight up combat without taking BFR or telepathy into play.Ok so he may not on shot-Hawkman but he can physically abuse him.
And I would like to point out that this is the same Hawkman that gets out reacted by Deathstroke 😛
That and it isn't like the guy flies faster than the speed of light.
In fact he flies what Ironman range. Nothing Herc hasn't dealt with before.
The question becomes can he put Herc down before Herc gets the chance to get a hold of him and handle him.
Gotcha
Yeah...if he can catch him 😉
Deatstroke had faster reflexes then the Flash and beat a Green Lantern in the same issue. No scratch of his back. Also removing his wings doesn't do anything he can still fly without them so that was kinda funny.
He actually has gone lightspeed while toying a spaceship...and I'm not kidding. Wonders of the Silver Age of comics
*Shrugs* Current Hawkman not to sure what his top speed, but he can dodge a laser maze thought to be impossible to do
Indeed, but with the likes of his birds, fishes and telepathy I like the DC'S teams chances.
Originally posted by King_MungiI know but still a bad showing for him.
GotchaYeah...if he can catch him 😉
Deatstroke had faster reflexes then the Flash and beat a Green Lantern in the same issue. No scratch of his back. Also removing his wings doesn't do anything he can still fly without them so that was kinda funny.
He actually has gone lightspeed while toying a spaceship...and I'm not kidding. Wonders of the Silver Age of comics
*Shrugs* Current Hawkman not to sure what his top speed, but he can dodge a laser maze thought to be impossible to do
Indeed, but with the likes of his birds, fishes and telepathy I like the DC'S teams chances.
And I hate to say it but the Birds and Fishes may as well not even be there. They honestly are not gonna do anything to Herc.
I wonder what would happen if Herc hit Hawkman with a Thunderclap.
Originally posted by Newjak
I know but still a bad showing for him.And I hate to say it but the Birds and Fishes may as well not even be there. They honestly are not gonna do anything to Herc.
I wonder what would happen if Herc hit Hawkman with a Thunderclap.
Seemed to distracted Superman 😖hifty:
Not much as he has been in a tornado before and was fine..actually he was pissed off getting out of it.
Originally posted by Inhuman
How can Herc or Ares stop these 2 plus an army of thousands of birds and a similar army of thousands of sea life ?
First off, I don't recall Hawkman recently using that power but if he was, I don't see how birds could harm them. I would assume the birds would hurt themselves in the attempt to harm them.
And I assumed this battle was on land.
Originally posted by King_MungiHerc Thunderclap>a Tornado.
Seemed to distracted Superman 😖hifty:Not much as he has been in a tornado before and was fine..actually he was pissed off getting out of it.
Plus I was thinking more along the lines of Hawkman's sense's and equilibrium getting messed up.
And Superman only gets distracted because he cares. Herc would want to eat them.
Originally posted by OnslaughtKILLS
First off, I don't recall Hawkman recently using that power but if he was, I don't see how birds could harm them. I would assume the birds would hurt themselves in the attempt to harm them.
He just used it just recently in JLA Classified #48 summoning alien birds to help him
1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48005.jpg
They put themselves in harms way for Hawkman before *shrugs*
Originally posted by Newjak
Herc Thunderclap>a Tornado.Plus I was thinking more along the lines of Hawkman's sense's and equilibrium getting messed up.
And Superman only gets distracted because he cares. Herc would want to eat them.
Like I said he wasn't bothered, more annoyed.
He has taken quite a beaten throughout his carrer, and a simple thunderclap I don't think would really mess him up at all.
It actually was a Max Lord mind-controlled SUperman 😖hifty:
Originally posted by King_MungiI know he has taken a beating but I was more less thinking of it distracting him, stopping him to give Herc enough time to get him.
He just used it just recently in JLA Classified #48 summoning alien birds to help him1. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd199/MachineMan616/JLAClassified48005.jpg
They put themselves in harms way for Hawkman before *shrugs*
Like I said he wasn't bothered, more annoyed.
He has taken quite a beaten throughout his carrer, and a simple thunderclap I don't think would really mess him up at all.
It actually was a Max Lord mind-controlled SUperman 😖hifty:
And there you have it anytime Superman becomes mind controlled he becomes weaker because he no longer is operating under his own willpower 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
I know he has taken a beating but I was more less thinking of it distracting him, stopping him to give Herc enough time to get him.And there you have it anytime Superman becomes mind controlled he becomes weaker because he no longer is operating under his own willpower 😛
Maybe, but not to sure how effective it would be with that nth metal. Like I mentioned early he could create wind gusts and remove the air in the area. 😉
*Ssshhh*...you will ruin my arguement 😉
