Wow, this is an old one, but I completely missed it, and I really wanted to weigh in. I hope you'll forgive me for something of a necro post, but it occured to me that people were seriously overlooking something in this thread...and I simply found the thread itself engaging.
The original stipulation was Aquaman WITH the Trident. Now, seeing as my knowledge of Hercules and Ares is from the original Avengers comics in the 60s and 70s, I can't speak to their modern power levels, but going by what I know, Aquaman would be able to go a few rounds with Herc. He'd lose, but it would be a pretty good fight. As far as Ares....well, it would be closer, but he would still probably lose. The problem is, as I observed a moment ago, Aquaman has his trident. That is INCREDIBLY powerful, and with it in hand, Arthur becomes near Superman level in damage potential. (Take a look at Our World's at War where he defeats an Imperiax probe single handed) He's already faster than his two opponents, and now he possesses the ability to do significant damage.
Originally posted by BentonGrey
Wow, this is an old one, but I completely missed it, and I really wanted to weigh in. I hope you'll forgive me for something of a necro post, but it occured to me that people were seriously overlooking something in this thread...and I simply found the thread itself engaging.The original stipulation was Aquaman WITH the Trident. Now, seeing as my knowledge of Hercules and Ares is from the original Avengers comics in the 60s and 70s, I can't speak to their modern power levels, but going by what I know, Aquaman would be able to go a few rounds with Herc. He'd lose, but it would be a pretty good fight. As far as Ares....well, it would be closer, but he would still probably lose. The problem is, as I observed a moment ago, Aquaman has his trident. That is INCREDIBLY powerful, and with it in hand, Arthur becomes near Superman level in damage potential. (Take a look at Our World's at War where he defeats an Imperiax probe single handed) He's already faster than his two opponents, and now he possesses the ability to do significant damage.
Aqua man loses if he goes h2h. Hercules has incalculable strength and amazing h2h skills, plus a rarely used mace of adamant (indestructable). Not usre how the gods could take down hawkman if he is just gonna flap around out of range (unless herc wants to ressurect his bow and arrow). But if this is a fight hawkman has to engage the gods you can't win by cowardice. If he closes in he is likely to get tagged by one of the gods (eventually)
Hawkman can dodge laser beams and bullets from point blank, arrows arn't even going to catch him. Plus his blows have hurt Wonder Woman, Despro, Martian Manhunter, etc. so it's not like he would be useless. Especially since he is more experienced then even Hercules.
I definetly can see Hawkman defeating Ares with no trouble, but with just his mace he isn't going to beat Hercules unless he has access to all his weapons.
Originally posted by King_MungiAres tagged Hermes you know the Olympian God of Speed as well with a nail gun no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hawkman can dodge laser beams and bullets from point blank, arrows arn't even going to catch him. Plus his blows have hurt Wonder Woman, Despro, Martian Manhunter, etc. so it's not like he would be useless. Especially since he is more experienced then even Hercules.I definetly can see Hawkman defeating Ares with no trouble, but with just his mace he isn't going to beat Hercules unless he has access to all his weapons.
And even though Hawkman can tag speedsters he is not particularly as fast as them nor compared to Hermes.
Hercules Knocks Aquaman out of orbit while Ares keeps Hawkman down until Herc comes over and cleans his clock. 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
Ares tagged Hermes you know the Olympian God of Speed as well with a nail gun no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And even though Hawkman can tag speedsters he is not particularly as fast as them nor compared to Hermes.
Hercules Knocks Aquaman out of orbit while Ares keeps Hawkman down until Herc comes over and cleans his clock. 😛
and Hawkman has tagged and beat Flash level beings, meh!
He has shown to go lightspeed in space actually and while towing a spaceship no less.
Or Aquaman uses his telepathy to shut Hercules down and he has the trident here which destroyed an Imperix Probe
Originally posted by Newjak
Ares tagged Hermes you know the Olympian God of Speed as well with a nail gun no less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!And even though Hawkman can tag speedsters he is not particularly as fast as them nor compared to Hermes.
Hercules Knocks Aquaman out of orbit while Ares keeps Hawkman down until Herc comes over and cleans his clock. 😛
Haha, well, that most have happened fairly recently, as I've got no knowledge of these guys for the last several years.
Still, I think Severance misunderstood me. Aquaman CAN go hand to hand with his trident (and I imagine it would probably even the odds against Herc a good bit), but the key is that he doesn't have to. He's much faster than Herc, and able to fire magical energy blasts from the trident that can hurt characters a good deal more powerful than the aforementioned Prince of Power. So, he'd be able to stay out of reach and blast away until Herc wished he was back in the Avengers mansion getting beaten by the Wrecking Crew. I'm pretty sure that if Hawkman couldn't beat Ares straight out (which, maybe is a bit of a stretch) he could certainly keep him busy until Arthur drops Herc.
As a matter of fact:
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/6018/aquamanvsolympian029wg.jpg
http://img447.imageshack.us/img447/6635/aquamanvsolympian034mk.jpg
Meet Olympian, a fellow who is PROBABLY not that far off from Hercules' level. Aquaman uses the trident to put him down HARD, only moments after the Greek ex-hero had trounced the Martian Manhunter. I'd say that proves the trident's effectiveness against invulnerability.
Originally posted by King_MungiI'm just trying to point that because he has beaten Flash level beings in speed doesn't make him immune to being tagged or shall I invoke Deathstroke where Deathstroke beat him to the punch 313
and Hawkman has tagged and beat Flash level beings, meh!He has shown to go lightspeed in space actually and while towing a spaceship no less.
Or Aquaman uses his telepathy to shut Hercules down and he has the trident here which destroyed an Imperix Probe
But the point remains Ares has tagged someone who is very fast in Hermes using only a nail gun. Hawkman is quite that fast 😛
Originally posted by Newjak
I'm just trying to point that because he has beaten Flash level beings in speed doesn't make him immune to being tagged or shall I invoke Deathstroke where Deathstroke beat him to the punch 313But the point remains Ares has tagged someone who is very fast in Hermes using only a nail gun. Hawkman is quite that fast 😛
Meh! in that story he beat Hawkman removing his wings, as shown even if you remove his wins he can still fly and DS beat the entire JLA in all PIS filled ways. Also as per feats he is not unhittable, but very hard to do, especially as shown with his "Flash" vision
Now what feats does Hermes have?
