Originally posted by Stoic
All of that power and Prime beat him, are you suggesting that Prime would give an IG user a problem? Power is one thing being able to manipulate reality, and remove that power is another. So yes Ion is very one dimensional when compared to an IG user, and in turn is out of his league.
Classic Ion.
Originally posted by Stoic
All of that power and Prime beat him, are you suggesting that Prime would give an IG user a problem? Power is one thing being able to manipulate reality, and remove that power is another. So yes Ion is very one dimensional when compared to an IG user, and in turn is out of his league.
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Go read some dc comics,they aren't the same ion,Classic ion was a god with far beyond infinite power,was not bound at all by time or space and is in no way shape or form going to get walked on by the IG,again fraction of his power prevented a force that was going to destroy and remake creation.
Which force was this?
Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Go read some dc comics,they aren't the same ion,Classic ion was a god with far beyond infinite power,was not bound at all by time or space and is in no way shape or form going to get walked on by the IG,again fraction of his power prevented a force that was going to destroy and remake creation.
As I said Power is one aspect of the IG, which is all that Ion has to offer, whereas the IG is much more than just power, Thanos with the IG can remake all reality, Ion only has power... power that can be removed from him if in reality he had none. The IG holds all mastery of time, space, "reality", power, the soul, and the mind.... Ion only possess' power, do you see how he is dwarved, and one dimensional... literally?
Hes possesses power,time,space,gls have high mental resistance so he would as well Ion can remake reality as well...hes not a one dimensional character jesus god you show your ignorance time and time again Thanos is not depowering someone as strong as Ion he never has and never will,and that would be entropy cloud.
Originally posted by StoicYou are wrong here Classic Ion had massive reality manipulation powers it won't be a quick strip of powers here not at all.
As I said Power is one aspect of the IG, which is all that Ion has to offer, whereas the IG is much more than just power, Thanos with the IG can remake all reality, Ion only has power... power that can be removed from him if in reality he had none. The IG holds all mastery of time, space, "reality", power, the soul, and the mind.... Ion only possess' power, do you see how he is dwarved, and one dimensional... literally?
I see that debating with you is a waste of time, you have never once said that a character from Marvel could beat one from DC to my knowledge, and only chime in when it suits you, but this time you are wrong, and if Ion classic or present was so powerful why is he so weak now? Was he retconned without anyones knowledge? Yes i know that the symbiote called Ion can jump from body to body, but this creature is not as powerful as an infinity being.
I guess that you are trying to say that Ion could stand in front of the LT like Warlock did right? There are also varying degrees as to how much psi shielding a GL has.
Did you also know that while the IG has the Power Gem in it that all of its other gems operate at infinite levels?
Originally posted by iceman24567
Yeah classic Ion and current operate on different levels that's why the thread starter specifically put (classic) i guess we can't kill him for pure ignorance.
My point was if classic was so powerful why is current so weak... don't answer I know.
I also know that there are varying degrees of how powerful a character is, and Ion used considerable effort to change reality, whereas Thanos with the IG could change it on a whim, and there is on panel proof of this claim.
Originally posted by Classic NES
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Hey I can admit that when I read the title of this thread, that I did not realize which incarnation of Ion this was, so you can can the attempt at sarcasm.
As I also stated.... I also know that there are varying degrees of how powerful a character is, and Ion used considerable effort to change reality, whereas Thanos with the IG could change it on a whim, and there is on panel proof of this claim.
Originally posted by StoicI don't think current Ion has the power of the Starheart I guess it makes a difference plus current Dc doesnt need current Ion to be powerful as Kyle was it would kill the ongoing plots like the War of three Worlds it would suck if Yat could just deage Prime into a baby.
My point was if classic was so powerful why is current so weak... don't answer I know.I also know that there are varying degrees of how powerful a character is, and Ion used considerable effort to change reality, whereas Thanos with the IG could change it on a whim, and there is on panel proof of this claim.
PowersWillpower Induction: Ion has immense Willpower-casting powers.
Connection: It can make a connection with someone's body when they feel have given to incredible willpower or have distanced themselves from their more complex emotions.
Time Manipulation: ability to control time
Reality Manipulation: ability to control reality.
Willpower-Induced Energy Manipulation: as the embodiment of willpower, Ion can control, manipulate and generate green energy derived from the emotional spectrum of the universe, which comprises all the willpower of all sentients in the universe. All powers similar to a Green Lantern Corps Power Ring and the Starheart.
Immortality: as a entity based upon a emotional concept Ion for all purposes is unending.
Flight
the Worlogog. The Worlogog was an ancient artefact constructed (possibly by Metron) from solid tachyons. It is a map of the universe in miniature which a mortal (or immortal) mind can alter mentally which then causes reality to shift to fit the new map.
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TIME
This gem allows the user to be in any period of time. From the primordial past, to the distant future, any age is accessable or visible through its power. With enough knowledge, even more can be done, as time and causality can even be manipulated with this gem. This would allow a user to even use time as a weapon, trapping enemies or entire universes in unending loops of time.
SPACE
Through this gem, one can be anywhere or nowhere in an instant. One can even be in multiple places, or can move any object anywhere throughout the cosmos. One can also warp or rearrange space as they see fit to suit their purposes.
SOUL
Able to steal, manipulate and alter souls, this gem was once (and is again) the burden of Adam Warlock. Not only can this gem control living souls, but also the souls of the dead are at its command. This gem is arguably the most dangerous, for it possesses a fragment of sentience, and has a hunger for souls. However, and somewhat ironically, this gem is the gateway to an idyllic, pocket-universe.
REALITY
They say that perception is reality, however using this gem makes that, quite literally, true. This gem is perhaps the most powerful, and most difficult to utilize. With it, what one wishes can be attained. Scientific laws are meaningless to its power to alter what is. Its use without the other gems can result in complete disaster.
MIND
Able to dig deep into other minds, this gem makes all thoughts and dreams accessable to its user. It can also boost mental power, and augment the mind's abilities. With the power of the other gems boosting its abilities, it is possible to use this gem to access all minds in existence simltaneously.
POWER
This gem contains access to all power and energy that ever has or will exist. It backs up the other gems and boosts their effects to an infinite degree. With this gem alone, the user can eventually duplicate almost any physical superhuman ability, and is essentially physically invincible and therefore unbeatable when using raw power alone.
I have seen far more on panel feats to prove that the IG would win than the other way around