Wonder Woman and Supergirl versus Thor and Hulk

Originally posted by Cap'n Happy
This is brilliant. It is clear, uses enough real logic and physics without a bunch of mumbo-jumbo to obfuscate. Best of all, you didn't show a bunch of scans and quote a bunch of dubious comic events to bolster your argument. Too many posters can't see the forest (individual comics and/or storylines) for the trees (the actual core reality of the character in question). It's insane to claim Hulk is even close to WW or SG speed. I still think his team wins, but I love love LOVE your post.

who claimed hulk was as fast as ww and sg? i claimed he could move all or parts of his body at hypersonic speeds and therefore should be able to tag sg or wonderwoman part of the time.

of course he could just glow green and take them out without really hitting them as he did against sentry

What is the highest speed wonderwoman has attained

Originally posted by ultimatethor
What is the highest speed wonderwoman has attained

Originally posted by llagrok
There are a lot of flaws in that post really.

WonderWoman and Supergirl are many times faster than ye olde Quicksilver, and hitting Supergirl with a "barrage" of magical lightning bolts would kill her.

My mistake, supergirl would actually die. But isnt wonderwoman upper speed of sound level? Has she ever gone close to lightspeed? Anyhow if she is not at light speed level then she is not that much faster than Quicksilver and considering that this version of hulk is WWH who is exponentially stronger, faster and more durable than the savage hulk who tagged quicksilver when he still used to move faster than the speed of sound( I dont know his speed level nowadays though) then he would be able to hit wonderwoman

Originally posted by ultimatethor
My mistake, supergirl would actually die. But isnt wonderwoman upper speed of sound level? Has she ever gone close to lightspeed? Anyhow if she is not at light speed level then she is not that much faster than Quicksilver and considering that this version of hulk is WWH who is exponentially stronger, faster and more durable than the savage hulk who tagged quicksilver when he still used to move faster than the speed of sound( I dont know his speed level nowadays though) then he would be able to hit wonderwoman

Wonderwoman is capable of lightspeed and possibly beyond.

Supergirl is likewise faster-than-light.

Originally posted by Juntai
Quicksilver moved over the speed of sound, looking at his respect thread, he was about 4 times the speed of sound, though someone mentions remember him being able to do mach-10 I didn't see a scan surface.

Wonderwoman is capable of lightspeed and possibly beyond.

Supergirl is likewise faster-than-light.

ww and sg are as fast or faster than the flash?? eer

No.

Flash is CRAZY fast.

Originally posted by severance
ww and sg are as fast or faster than the flash?? eer

Doesn't make what I said untrue.

Originally posted by Juntai
Flash is a time-traveler and dimension hopper. His speed isn't always quantifiable.

Doesn't make what I said untrue.

No not doubting ya m8 as you can tell i'm not a huge DC fan but i try to keep up where i can. If, as you say, SG and WW can make light speed and beyond then the Flash character seems to me to be a bit redundant. Just one of the many problems I have with the DC universe

Originally posted by severance
No not doubting ya m8 as you can tell i'm not a huge DC fan but i try to keep up where i can. If, as you say, SG and WW can make light speed and beyond then the Flash character seems to me to be a bit redundant. Just one of the many problems I have with the DC universe

Yea, Flash is still way faster than her though, so it's not really redundant, especially since his only power isn't speed.

A lot of DC characters can go lightspeed and ftl.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, Flash is still way faster than her though, so it's not really redundant, especially since his only power isn't speed.

A lot of DC characters can go lightspeed and ftl.

way faster than light speed still pretty pointless if he is earth bound. useful if he could travel thru space. At light speed he can travel round the earth 7 times in a second what difference is multiple times light speed gonna make. Therefore still redundant.

I get the vibraing thru matter is a cool stunt. Is there any reason ww or sg cannot do this

I get the vibraing thru matter is a cool stunt. Is there any reason ww or sg cannot do this

Not really, Superman has done it before but it's presumably hard to do.

Originally posted by Galvaclaw
Not really, Superman has done it before but it's presumably hard to do.

alright if ww and sg have flash seed and can vibrate thru stuff as well then huc and thor have a problem. Can anyone provide evidence that ww and sg have light speed feats? if so I may have to concede this one surrender(BUT go on hating DC just a little bit).

I believe Huc and thor are stronger tougher and more bad ass than the ladies but if they can move light speed in the earths atmosphere then not sure what Huc nad thor can do without the aid of PIS- 🙁

Originally posted by severance
way faster than light speed still pretty pointless if he is earth bound. useful if he could travel thru space. At light speed he can travel round the earth 7 times in a second what difference is multiple times light speed gonna make. Therefore still redundant.

I get the vibraing thru matter is a cool stunt. Is there any reason ww or sg cannot do this

Originally posted by Juntai
Flash is a monster, though his abilities typically revolve around speed, he's not limited to speed by itself. The speedforce affords him a vast amount of powers.
Such as making constructs.
Controlling kinetic energy in other objects and beings, even without touching it.
Time travel and dimension hopping.
Simulated high end durability and superstrength[in striking], in the range of the other iconic characters in the JLA.
Limited molecular control of his body and others, and objects.
etc.

are these new powers don't remember any of those from my last venture into DC land.

Anyhoo do ww and the super family use speed force to move fast? If not how they move so fast without super heating and causing untold destruction. As one approaches the speed of light ones mass becomes infinite. Sorry for all the questions but I am here to learn as well as debate. book

Originally posted by severance
are these new powers don't remember any of those from my last venture into DC land.

Anyhoo do ww and the super family use speed force to move fast? If not how they move so fast without super heating and causing untold destruction. As one approaches the speed of light ones mass becomes infinite. Sorry for all the questions but I am here to learn as well as debate. book

No they don't have the speed force, which is why they limit their speed on Earth.

Although I have never known Diana to be able to go ftl at all.

Originally posted by severance
way faster than light speed still pretty pointless if he is earth bound. useful if he could travel thru space. At light speed he can travel round the earth 7 times in a second what difference is multiple times light speed gonna make. Therefore still redundant.

I get the vibraing thru matter is a cool stunt. Is there any reason ww or sg cannot do this

None of them can go lightspeed or anywhere close on Earth, so it's not pointless or redundant.

Originally posted by Draco69

Here Jesse Quick breaks the dimensional barrier to reach the Speed Force THAN states the Speed Formula that TRIPLES any Speed Forcer's acceleration (Flash stated it to match Zoom).

WW follows Jesse Quick by manually breaking the dimensional barrier and reaching the Speed Force:

The ONLY way to reach the barrier of the Speed Force is to reach lightspeed and transcend it. Like Jesse Quick and yes, Wonder Woman did above.

WW's speed is going to be a HUGE factor in this battle.

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