Well I don't know about that. The way he singlehandedly took on the entire Imperial Guard pretty much cements his position as one of the most powerful mutants imho. Hell, even as one of Moira MacTaggert's youngsters his potential was so high that Xavier was more intrigued by it than he was by Darwin's "reactive evolution" (the unique way in which he constantly evolved based on his environments and situation). Xavier even theorized that he could have eventually become one of the most powerful energy manipulators on Earth, and he was even able to outclass Cyclops at this point, and this was before absorbing all of the energy released from the Mutants on M-Day, where he obtained potential beyond that of an Omega Level Mutant.
I'd say Vulcan's got this.
Could anyone tell me which "What If?" comics he appears in, I can't seem to find them anywhere. Also, nothing to my knowledge ever indicates that Vulcan can manipulate the electric current in a mutant's brain to suppress their abilities without utilising a high level of concentration. It's doubtful he'd be able to do it in a fast paced fight to the death.
Originally posted by EmpererVulcan
Well I don't know about that. The way he singlehandedly took on the entire Imperial Guard pretty much cements his position as one of the most powerful mutants imho. Hell, even as one of Moira MacTaggert's youngsters his potential was so high that Xavier was more intrigued by it than he was by Darwin's "reactive evolution" (the unique way in which he constantly evolved based on his environments and situation). Xavier even theorized that he could have eventually become one of the most powerful energy manipulators on Earth, and he was even able to outclass Cyclops at this point, and this was before absorbing all of the energy released from the Mutants on M-Day, where he obtained potential beyond that of an Omega Level Mutant.I'd say Vulcan's got this.
When did Vulcan get powers from the collective? 😑
And he didn't single handedly take out the Imperial Guard, he was beaten by Gladiator.
Originally posted by Mindset
When did Vulcan get powers from the collective? 😑
Who said anything about the collective? If you haven't, read Deadly Genesis. It explains how Vulcan was able to absorb a large amount of the energy released from the mutants on M-Day.
And he didn't single handedly take out the Imperial Guard, he was beaten by Gladiator.
My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure.
Originally posted by EmpererVulcan
Who said anything about the collective? If you haven't, read Deadly Genesis. It explains how Vulcan was able to absorb a large amount of the energy released from the mutants on M-Day.My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure.
The energy released from the mutants on M-day was the collective.
Deadly genesis came out a long time ago, I can't be bothered to remember every detail.
A lot of people can take on the Imperial Guard, it doesn't matter if they end up losing. I agree that he is one of the strongest mutants, but they way you worded it made it seem like he was beating them or was an even match for them.
My exact words were "took on," not "took out." Now sure, Gladiator did eventually defeat the weakened Vulcan, but Vulcan still kicked a lot of ass, slaying a few of them, and even blasting Gladiator back at one point. The entire feat alone puts Vulcan pretty high up on the Mutant hierarchy to be sure. [/B][/QUOTE]
Gambit took out Gladiator once... 😮