Lucifer vs *insert Marvel character*

Started by Erik-Lensherr23 pages
Originally posted by Galan007
Anyhow, I'm done with my rant. Carry on with the pointless debate. 🙂

😂

, LT,THOTU

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes and Lt is the judge of all that encompassed marvel.

I have seen cronus and Asmodel kill angels with ease before as well and they were nowhere near as powerful as Lt or Scathan.

Darkseid has destroyed entire pantheons of panel of course. So again I am not impressed in the least bit.

Lt and Scathan dont have to crush his head to beat him. 🙂

not all, just the singular multiverse. nuthign on the beyond realm, nuthing on the voidor ant realm outside the multiverse. he has also shown to be unable to do much against certain beings like korvak.

cronus and asmodel never killed ARCHangels, like the ones that stay in the silver city. no comparison here. darksied again has never destroyed pantheons of gods whose realms affect the multiverse{like the vertigo pantheons do}.

lt ans scathan would have to so sumthing on the lines of what pre retconned beyonder did when he KILLED death throughout the multiverse to be compareable to what lucifer did to fenris. also, you keep asking for scans of what lucifer did, simply because you havent read lucifer, i have given you scans before of him threatening the megaversal death with her demise, threatening yahweh etc etc. go to the lucifer respect thread and see him stand at ground zero of the multiverse shattering demiurgic explosion and then create his own multiverse on panel with it and create concepts like time out of nothing.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
not all, just the singular multiverse. nuthign on the beyond realm, nuthing on the voidor ant realm outside the multiverse. he has also shown to be unable to do much against certain beings like korvak.

cronus and asmodel never killed ARCHangels, like the ones that stay in the silver city. no comparison here. darksied again has never destroyed pantheons of gods whose realms affect the multiverse{like the vertigo pantheons do}.

lt ans scathan would have to so sumthing on the lines of what pre retconned beyonder did when he KILLED death throughout the multiverse to be compareable to what lucifer did to fenris. also, you keep asking for scans of what lucifer did, simply because you havent read lucifer, i have given you scans before of him threatening the megaversal death with her demise, threatening yahweh etc etc. go to the lucifer respect thread and see him stand at ground zero of the multiverse shattering demiurgic explosion and then create his own multiverse on panel with it and create concepts like time out of nothing.

When was he unable to stop Korvac? Did he even try to engage him? Are you suggesting Korvac could beat the Lt?

You said angels but now you want to say archangels. Well in dc asmodel and Cronus dominated heaven easily.

Scathan easily defeated Protege who had Lt's powers. He didnt go around crushing heads.

Posts scans to prove your case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How many scans did Thanos and other beings acknowledge Thanos was supreme.

Lt only answers to the TOAA and Thanos destroyed him easily.

Do you think there is one Lt or different Lts for each universe? Why would Lt get involved for one universe. He cares if its a multiversal threat.

Put up a scan of Lucy doing something greater than exploding someones head. Thanos absorbed the entire marvel u all attacking him at once.

supreme INSIDE comics doesnt = power of the writers

it simply means you are strongest inside a megaverse{and not all megaverses are the same i size and power}. LT has been overpowered before by the beyonder. i never said it was a universe, i know it was a multiverse, but if ou continuously use the arguments of "singular out of context ON PANEL evidence trumps anythign else" like your doing with the term SUPREME and GOD, then i will give you ON panel evidence to the contrary directly contradicting your claim. also note that genis vell has also claimed to be GOD on panel whe he destroyed the universe and stood in the void talking to rick jones. hmmm, maybe ishud start considering him the same as thanos with the heart of the universe.

ive put up many scans, if you want more, just go the lucifer respect thread. or rather, READ lucifer before throwing ignorant comments around.

Originally posted by quanchi112

When was he unable to stop Korvac?
Did he even try to engage him?
Are you suggesting Korvac could beat the Lt?


The LT never even saw Korvac, let-alone confront him.

Korvac never even saw LT either.

LT NEVER attacked Korvac directly,
LT made the local Sun go nova,
and this was his ultimate judgement back in 1982 in a "What if." 😆

Again, stop wasting your time quan,
cause here,
you most definitely are wasting your time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was he unable to stop Korvac? Did he even try to engage him? Are you suggesting Korvac could beat the Lt?

You said angels but now you want to say archangels. Well in dc asmodel and Cronus dominated heaven easily.

Scathan easily defeated Protege who had Lt's powers. He didnt go around crushing heads.

Posts scans to prove your case.

he had to seal krovak in a universe because he cudnt stop him all out.

yes, there is huge difference between cherubs/angels/arhchangels/lucifer and micheal in terms of power. asmodel and cronus never became and controlled the power of god, dont be silly.

crushing heads or otherwise, lucifer was destroying a CONCEPT.

go to the lucifer respect thread as i am tired of posting personal scans of lucifer and you brushing them aside.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
supreme INSIDE comics doesnt = power of the writers

it simply means you are strongest inside a megaverse{and not all megaverses are the same i size and power}. LT has been overpowered before by the beyonder. i never said it was a universe, i know it was a multiverse, but if ou continuously use the arguments of "singular out of context ON PANEL evidence trumps anythign else" like your doing with the term SUPREME and GOD, then i will give you ON panel evidence to the contrary directly contradicting your claim. also note that genis vell has also claimed to be GOD on panel whe he destroyed the universe and stood in the void talking to rick jones. hmmm, maybe ishud start considering him the same as thanos with the heart of the universe.

ive put up many scans, if you want more, just go the lucifer respect thread. or rather, READ lucifer before throwing ignorant comments around.

Thanos was supreme and was god. Unbeatable.

Thanos with the heart and preretcon Beyonder are by far the most powerful beings on panel ever written about.

Again the writer agreed and I have scans assuring you Thanos was supreme. I dont just have on panel proof I have the writer confirming it and it being mentioned later in Thanos own series. He also has the best battle feats ever in comics.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The LT never even saw Korvac, let-alone confront him.

Korvac never even saw LT either.

LT NEVER attacked Korvac directly,
LT made the local Sun go nova,
and this was his ultimate judgement back in 1982 in a "What if." 😆

Again, stop wasting your time quan,
cause here,
you most definitely are wasting your time.

I wanted to see if he would answer the questions. I knew he didnt know what he was talking about here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was supreme and was god. Unbeatable.

Thanos with the heart and preretcon Beyonder are by far the most powerful beings on panel ever written about.

Again the writer agreed and I have scans assuring you Thanos was supreme. I dont just have on panel proof I have the writer confirming it and it being mentioned later in Thanos own series. He also has the best battle feats ever in comics.

shin akuma was also UNBEATEABLE in the street fighter comics, shud we start considering him on par with thanos now??????

neither are the most powerful beings ever writtern about, they just happen to be most powerful in marvel, and they are still second to the writers as EVERY1 inside comics is.

the writer agreed that thanos destroyed the marvel UNIVERSE, looks at his interview. now if we are taking everything the writer is saying at face value then maybe we shud take that word at face value too, seeing also as only UNIverse is mentioned in the on panel comic. you neither have on panel proof nor evidence from the writer, MANY other writers have had their characters destroy EVERYTHING in marvel {i.e. reed with the ultimate nullifier recreated the whole MULTIVERSE on panel, genis vell with entropy destroyed EVERYTHING etc etc etc} and they all have their scopes on what happened. if one writer erronously considers the totality of marvel to be a UNIVERSE and destroyes it doesnt mean anything. as icing on the cake, EVERYTHING wasnt destroyed as both death and warlock survived and were never noticed as they were outside the universe{but well call it a multiverse because we with our OFF panel intellects can see that the destruction of a single universe cant destroy LT, but hey if you wanna stick to on panel than ull have to admit that LT was killed by teh destruction of a single universe} .
this isnt the best feat in comic book history, unless youve only read marvel. {oh hey, how many OTHER characters have been on panel OMNIveral threats in marvel, mad jim jaspers, wanda with the chaos wave, hyperstorm etc etc}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
shin akuma was also UNBEATEABLE in the street fighter comics, shud we start considering him on par with thanos now??????

neither are the most powerful beings ever writtern about, they just happen to be most powerful in marvel, and they are still second to the writers as EVERY1 inside comics is.

the writer agreed that thanos destroyed the marvel UNIVERSE, looks at his interview. now if we are taking everything the writer is saying at face value then maybe we shud take that word at face value too, seeing also as only UNIverse is mentioned in the on panel comic. you neither have on panel proof nor evidence from the writer, MANY other writers have had their characters destroy EVERYTHING in marvel {i.e. reed with the ultimate nullifier recreated the whole MULTIVERSE on panel, genis vell with entropy destroyed EVERYTHING etc etc etc} and they all have their scopes on what happened. if one writer erronously considers the totality of marvel to be a UNIVERSE and destroyes it doesnt mean anything. as icing on the cake, EVERYTHING wasnt destroyed as both death and warlock survived and were never noticed as they were outside the universe{but well call it a multiverse because we with our OFF panel intellects can see that the destruction of a single universe cant destroy LT, but hey if you wanna stick to on panel than ull have to admit that LT was killed by teh destruction of a single universe} .
this isnt the best feat in comic book history, unless youve only read marvel. {oh hey, how many OTHER characters have been on panel OMNIveral threats in marvel, mad jim jaspers, wanda with the chaos wave, hyperstorm etc etc}

You are comparing some street fighter guy to Thanos who absorbed the multiverse. I mean seriously any top tier would rape all of street fighter at once.

Name two more powerful beings than these two.

Thanos was everything and was god. He was more than universal as lt is multiversal. Try and keep up.

All the evidence supports me.

Quanchi why are you wasting your time with that guy?

All he's going to do is deny on panel evidence, exaggerate and lie about what actually happened in the Lucifer series, provide no scans to support his comedic claims (and if he does provide scans they completely contradict his statements), and continue to obsess over Lucifer.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Quanchi why are you wasting your time with that guy?

All he's going to do is deny on panel evidence, exaggerate and lie about what actually happened in the Lucifer series, provide no scans to support his comedic claims (and if he does provide scans they completely contradict his statements), and continue to obsess over Lucifer.

Comedic relief?

That's why he's at the forums, isn't it? I mean, he used to say Fallen One would stomp Galactus, and so would Strange...

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are comparing some street fighter guy to Thanos who absorbed the multiverse. I mean seriously any top tier would rape all of street fighter at once.

Name two more powerful beings than these two.

Thanos was everything and was god. He was more than universal as lt is multiversal. Try and keep up.

All the evidence supports me.

no, i am comparing use of the word SUPREME and MOST POWERFUL, and yet again you manage to miss the point. really now. the street fighter reference WAS for laughs as going by your theory, shin akuma is as powerful as thanos{which OFCOURSE he isnt}

yahweh/lucifer 😛

thanos wasnt everything, he missed death and warlock, nough said. also, you are facing ON PANEL evidence here, it was stated by BOTH the writer and the COMIC to be a UNIverse. get that in your HEAD.

last line is a straight and defiant lie.

Originally posted by Air Legend
Quanchi why are you wasting your time with that guy?

All he's going to do is deny on panel evidence, exaggerate and lie about what actually happened in the Lucifer series, provide no scans to support his comedic claims (and if he does provide scans they completely contradict his statements), and continue to obsess over Lucifer.

you really want be to bust your chops again by on panel evidence stating that you were lying or scans dicrediting each and every on of your agruments?? are you here simply to flame??

Originally posted by Air Legend

Quanchi why are you wasting your time with that guy?

All he's going to do is deny on panel evidence,
exaggerate and lie about what actually happened in the Lucifer series,
provide no scans to support his comedic claims

(and if he does provide scans they completely contradict his statements),
and continue to obsess over Lucifer.


Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist

Comedic relief?

That's why he's at the forums, isn't it?
I mean,
he used to say Fallen One would stomp Galactus, and so would Strange...


👆 😆

You fellas are right on point.

I gotta say, the intransigence surpasses that of Nvr,
and I didn't think that was possible.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Comedic relief?

That's why he's at the forums, isn't it? I mean, he used to say Fallen One would stomp Galactus, and so would Strange...

the first one had galactus running and the second one has resisted the infinity gauntlett and LT as well as defeating death and the inbetweener twice.

you were saying.....

Originally posted by leonheartmm
the first one had galactus running and the second one has resisted the infinity gauntlett and LT as well as defeating death and the inbetweener twice.

you were saying.....

ur funneh
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fallen%20One/Thanos011-20.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fallen%20One/Thanos12-007.jpg

And Galactus knocked Strange out by an information transfer...

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights/Dr%20Strange/galactusvsdrstrange9ad8.jpg

I was saying that you're comedic relief. All you had to do was look up silly.

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First Fallen had Galactus running! ... false.

Dr Strange resisted the IG! ... false.

Dr Strange resisted the LT! ... false.

Dr Strange defeated Death and the In-betweener twice! ... false.

All false. 😬

"it was stated by the writer to be a UNIverse"

That's a straight up LIE!

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Jim Starlin interview: stated Thanos wiped out the ENTIRE Marvel Universe!

(towards the bottom)

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

...

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing
"

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So I guess the entire Marvel Universe is one reality, or one Multiverse.

😆

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆

First Fallen had Galactus running! ... false.

Dr Strange resisted the IG! ... false.

Dr Strange resisted the LT! ... false.

Dr Strange defeated Death and the In-betweener twice! ... false.

All false. 😬

"it was stated by [b]the writer to be a UNIverse"

That's a straight up LIE!

======================================

Jim Starlin interview: stated Thanos wiped out the ENTIRE Marvel Universe!

(towards the bottom)

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

...

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing
"

=======================================

So I guess the entire Marvel Universe is one reality, or one Multiverse.

😆 [/B]

Entire Marvel Universe? Seems like the writer is saying Thanos wiped out the 616. Which is the Marvel Universe. It is the original, the one that started everything else. It's totally plausible that he wiped out the Marvel universe and that is it. But we all know that wiping out the foundation effectively wipes out everything else.