Lucifer vs *insert Marvel character*

Started by Mr Master23 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112

Thanos knew exactly what was going on.

Remember masters scans
but overlooked certain things when he got pissed
and absorbed everything.


True that:

Originally posted by quanchi112

He was supreme


👆

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Here's Thanos' 2008 bio: (at the bottom)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being
... "

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=========== SUPREME BEING =============

Originally posted by quanchi112

and was god


On Panel:

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Thanos says:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"

Eternity responds,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

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"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"

noneyes

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Confirmed in official handbook Bios:

"Thanos eradicated the Order, they ... Pronounced him GOD" ...

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Originally posted by quanchi112

backed by the comic itself


Meh, even backed by the writer himself!

http://www.adelaidecomicsandbooks.com/starlin.html

Jim Starlin states ... Thanos: "basically he was God" (first paragraph)

Originally posted by quanchi112

and the writer himself in an interview.


Correct.

besides officially stating that Thanos did in FACT become GOD!!! (right above)

Jim Starlin interview: Also stated Thanos wiped out the ENTIRE Marvel Universe!

(towards the bottom)

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=36&t=000382

"Thanos and the resurrected Pharaoh Akhenaten compete for the ultimate power"

...

"Figured if I was going to kill off the entire Marvel Universe
it ought to be the real thing
"

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But none of this matters,
cause unsupported opinions > Marvel on panel/bio confirmed evidence.

Oh yea, even Jim Starlin is < unsupported opinions (fallacies really)

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The Living Tribunal holds the power of TWO MegaverseS in one hand:

The LT literally manipulated (fashioned) the Two Brothers!


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Actually,
the LT also holds the destiny of the beginning and end of Marvel in the other hand!

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The Tribunal is serene in His Omnipotence

"the Pulse of Creation reverberates through him, (LT) for he (LT) is its Heart,
ALPHA & OMEGA revolve on the Wheel of Destiny,
a Destiny SPUN by HIS (LT) mighty Hand"

"A Hand (one hand) soon opening
to allow (LT's in control) 🙂
TWO Brothers to assume their pre-destined Roles as Architects of New Realities ...
and ONLY this Judge (LT) knows why" (only the LT)

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ALL CANON, according to the official Marvel Handbook (2006)

"the Living Tribunal also helped fashion the twin Entities the BROTHERS,
each of whom became the guardian of a different Megaverse,
within the larger Omniverse
but encompassing MORE than a single Multiverse
"

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How was the LT helped?

With a consultaion. (in other words ... TALK!)

"First there must be the transdimensional consultation"

The LT did all the work!

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Each one of the Brothers represents the power of an Megaverse.

Each Megaverse represents a collection of MultiverseS!

"the REALMS with a Multiverse ...

... within the Omniverse,
collections of associated REALMS from different MultiverseS are referred to as MegaverseS
"

The Living Tribunal can hold the power of Two MegaverseS in one hand,
fashion said MegaverseS in one hand,
while in the other hand,
the LT spins the destiny of the Alpha and Omega.

thankyou

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Now here's ALL that POWER! ... getting stomped!!!

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(excerpt from the official Marvel Handbook 2006 - LT - bio)

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

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Logic dictates that ONLY TOAA or a power = to or superior could defeat the LT:

LT gets owned!

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We know Thanos has "someone's" power,
there's no denying that, I'm sure you'll agree.

And if according to Marvel,
the ONLY power above the Living Tribunal's is TOAA's,
who's power do you believe Thanos has?

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yawn

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Eternity states:

"Relinquish the Supreme Power you have stolen"

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"How dare these cretins defy their Supreme Being?

Was I not Now the End-All and Be-All of Reality?

Their very existence was by My Whim"

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Eternity also relates to the Supreme Being:

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Eternity's "Lord and Master" is the Almighty Supreme Being TOAA/God.

Thanos knew "Eternity could SENSE" he had become the new Supreme Being,
because of this fact:

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(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Eternity

"Thanos claimed the Power of THOTI,

Eternity opposed Thanos once more,

Thanos destroyed ALL of Reality"

2.

(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Living Tribunal

"Thanos destroyed ALL that Existed with his power ...
and then Restored Reality
"

3.

(This is from the actual Marvel Handbook Bio 2006) - Infinity

"Thanos used THOTI to destroy All Reality"

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Thanos became One with the entire Marvel Universe: (which is an Omniverse)

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"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

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And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:

The PROOF:

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"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"

"I was an asteroid floating in the void shortly after the Big Bang"

Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

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"I was Everything"

Ain't that the truth.

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If Thanos was bonded to OTHER Timelines (UniverseS)
then without a doubt,
when Thanos said "I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

Thanos indeed meant, the Marvel OMNIVERSE!!!!

The HOTU was infused with power by TOAA....enough to do what was required...but by infusing the HOTU ,would by no means lessen TOAA whose power etc etc was infinite +++....as to why using Thanos and not the LT to achieve its end....who knows?...TOAA works in mysterious ways....
cheers
😱

Originally posted by lannfear
The HOTU was infused with power by TOAA....enough to do what was required...but by infusing the HOTU ,would by no means lessen TOAA whose power etc etc was infinite +++....as to why using Thanos and not the LT to achieve its end....who knows?...TOAA works in mysterious ways....
cheers
😱
I can actually answer this question. To sell comic books.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Wasnt lucy defeated by fenris?

So couldnt the Lt do much worse than fenris by your own morbid logic.

Both the lt and Scathan are above Lucy by a fair margin.

Nope.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
They have so much power it really won't matter. 🙂

He beat two giants with the literal power of god. He defeated them and a doppleganger of himself with cunning. He just blew up the doppleganger.

Originally posted by Sirius77
Nope.

Do you think Fenris would be anything more than a nuisance to Lt or Scathan?

Originally posted by Sirius77
He beat two giants with the literal power of god. He defeated them and a doppleganger of himself with cunning. He just blew up the doppleganger.
And Beyonder was destroying the Multiverse with an emotion. Molecule Man repaired it with a wave of the finger. Wowz.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you think Fenris would be anything more than a nuisance to Lt or Scathan?

lets see now, fenris is the ambodiements of destruction, killed many gods with realms in the multiverse, had to detatch his memories as he destroyes them too by being what he is, killed a couple of angels with ease, was solely responsible for the destruction of his entire pantheon, at ragnarok would destroy the world, actually DESTROYED primum mobile, the seat of god in heaven on top of the tower of infinite height, the connecting point of god and his creation, engineered the falls of TWO entire creations by leading the events at yygrassil, one of the beginninf places etc etc etc.

hmmm, let me THINK what hed be to LT. oh thats right, he would be a significant adversary. please READ lucifer befor making senseless claims.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say fenris fatally wounded him?

Heart>>>Lt>Lucy. Nuff said.

Thanos knew exactly what was going on. Remember masters scans but overlooked certain things when he got pissed and absorbed everything.

He was supreme and was god backed by the comic itself,later in the Thanos series, and the writer himself in an interview.

Thanos feats in the end>>>>>anything Lucifer has ever done.

you said he was defeated by fenris, which is worse. {seriously, why are you even debating this if you havent read lucifer?}

"thanos knew exactly what was going on" and "but overlooked certain things" are directly contradicting statements. fact is he didnt, and it is on panel.

supreme is a cheap term tossed around. he never claimed anything greater than the destruction of the UNIverse on panel, that is fact. we, being generous and UNERSTADING the ability of writers to use wrong terminology grant him MULTIversal power, but that is where it ends.

in the words of mike carey himself "just because you SAY sumthing doesnt make it true". no matter how many times you endlessly repeat thanos being greater than lucifer doesnt make it any more TRUE. fact is. he recreated a multiverse{which was actually only stated to be a UNIverse ON PANEL} and that was the extent of his power. lucifer has done more on panel. stop this idiocy now.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Thanos became One with the [b]entire Marvel Universe: (which is an Omniverse)

................................................................................

"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

................................................................................

And it was "Omni-Reality" as in all other UniverseS included:

The PROOF:

................................................................................

"I was a grain of sand in a Distant Future"

"I was an asteroid floating in the void shortly after the Big Bang"

Thanos was connected to other TimelineS (UniverseS) evidently.

This is further proof Thanos is talking about everything ... as in "Everything"

................................................................................

"I was Everything"

Ain't that the truth.

====================================

If Thanos was bonded to OTHER Timelines (UniverseS)
then without a doubt,
when Thanos said "I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

Thanos indeed meant, the Marvel OMNIVERSE!!!! [/B]

stop spamming, it was a universe on panel and rever retconned.

guys, am i gonna have to close this?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lets see now, fenris is the ambodiements of destruction, killed many gods with realms in the multiverse, had to detatch his memories as he destroyes them too by being what he is, killed a couple of angels with ease, was solely responsible for the destruction of his entire pantheon, at ragnarok would destroy the world, actually DESTROYED primum mobile, the seat of god in heaven on top of the tower of infinite height, the connecting point of god and his creation, engineered the falls of TWO entire creations by leading the events at yygrassil, one of the beginninf places etc etc etc.

hmmm, let me THINK what hed be to LT. oh thats right, he would be a significant adversary. please READ lucifer befor making senseless claims.

Yes and Lt is the judge of all that encompassed marvel.

I have seen cronus and Asmodel kill angels with ease before as well and they were nowhere near as powerful as Lt or Scathan.

Darkseid has destroyed entire pantheons of panel of course. So again I am not impressed in the least bit.

Lt and Scathan dont have to crush his head to beat him. 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
you said he was defeated by fenris, which is worse. {seriously, why are you even debating this if you havent read lucifer?}

"thanos knew exactly what was going on" and "but overlooked certain things" are directly contradicting statements. fact is he didnt, and it is on panel.

supreme is a cheap term tossed around. he never claimed anything greater than the destruction of the UNIverse on panel, that is fact. we, being generous and UNERSTADING the ability of writers to use wrong terminology grant him MULTIversal power, but that is where it ends.

in the words of mike carey himself "just because you SAY sumthing doesnt make it true". no matter how many times you endlessly repeat thanos being greater than lucifer doesnt make it any more TRUE. fact is. he recreated a multiverse{which was actually only stated to be a UNIverse ON PANEL} and that was the extent of his power. lucifer has done more on panel. stop this idiocy now.

How many scans did Thanos and other beings acknowledge Thanos was supreme.

Lt only answers to the TOAA and Thanos destroyed him easily.

Do you think there is one Lt or different Lts for each universe? Why would Lt get involved for one universe. He cares if its a multiversal threat.

Put up a scan of Lucy doing something greater than exploding someones head. Thanos absorbed the entire marvel u all attacking him at once.