Actually fellas,
Jamie merged the resurrected Jaspers with Fury.
Wanda was the one that resurrected Jaspers with her Chaos Wave.
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These two have always left me hmming around.
Jaspers has never lost to anyone but Fury,
Jaspers remade/even became 616 thus re-creating everything withIN it.
(absolute control over all its Concepts)
Most impressive of all,
we have Merlin admitting that 238 Jaspers was more poweful than he,
(Merlin actually tried to use power, and his attempts were twarted)
and as we know, 238 Jaspers <<< 616 Jaspers.
We also know,
Merlin/Matrix was a "god" at the time (power over all the realities in Marvel)
Jaspers would've definitely warped the entire Marvel Omniverse if not for the plot device (Fury)
This isn't just the Omniversal Guardian's own words,
Cobweb (a being that's psychically connected to all her Past/Future selves)
saw Jaspers ending the Omniverse in a possible Future
where he wasn't stopped by Fury.
So go figure.
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On the other hand there's Jamie,
well Jamie partially influenced Jaspers' re-creation.
Jamie controls quantum strings from Universal to a Multi-Dimensional scale,
as he proved capable of toying with the WHR (which is connected to a Nexus of Realities)
I've seen Jamie manipulate other Realities/Universes through unimaginable means,
(like via a comic book once)
He's also proven to be capable of creating atleast most of a Universe from scratch.
Including all it's Stars, Sound waves ect.
(space/time/matter that depends on his consciousness)
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It's always been a tuff call, imo.
Nice match up id.
Originally posted by Mr Master
He's also proven to be capable of creating atleast most of a Universe from scratch.
Including all it's Stars, Sound waves ect.
(space/time/matter that depends on his consciousness)
These two points at least are far from the truth. 😉
He created a city sized reality warp, which you've hyped up to be he created that whole entire universe.
From within said reality warp Jamie Jamie removed stars and sound.
What you need to remember is that within a reality warp physics, the rules of space and time don't apply. From outside where such laws are still in place the warp could be the size of a telephone box, from within it could be the size of a country. It wouldn't have to make sense.
Just because Jamie made the stars within his reality warp fall down like snowflakes, doesn't mean Jamie created that entire universe.
That was never ever stated on panel.
When Jamie stopped his reality tamperings which were maintained with his power, what disappearred, the stars? ❌ Ok how about some planets? ❌
Just the city Excalibur was fighting Jamie in. 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStormJaspers demonstrated this perfectly...
What you need to remember is that within a reality warp physics, the rules of space and time don't apply. From outside where such laws are still in place the warp could be the size of a telephone box, from within it could be the size of a country. It wouldn't have to make sense.
"The room is far too big to fit inside MJJ's flying teapot -- Captain Britain's mind staggers for balance as reality slips another notch":
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And as stated above,
the enormous room was all contained within this contraption lol:
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What we also need to remember is that just because a top-tier reality warper has the ability to put an infinite Universe inside a marble, if they so choose -- it doesn't make that Universe any lesser of a cosmos in terms of size, then say the 616 'verse.
g_grin
Originally posted by Galan007
Jaspers demonstrated this perfectly..."The room is far too big to fit inside MJJ's flying teapot -- Captain Britain's mind staggers for balance as reality slips another notch":
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And as stated above,
the enormous room was all contained within this contraption lol:======
What we also need to remember is that just because a top-tier reality warper has the ability to put an infinite Universe inside a marble, if they so choose -- it doesn't make that Universe any lesser of a cosmos in terms of size, then say the 616 'verse.
g_grin
Finally you're getting what i've been telling you for about 2 years now! 😂
As for your last point, theres a difference between creating a universe and creating an area within a universe where the laws of the universe don't apply and your will does.
Within such areas you can't assume they're anywhere near as grand and complex as the actual universe unless stated. Otherwise they're just pocket dimensions ala Frankin Richards "Heroes Reborn Earth"
But yeah, what a breakthrough lol
Originally posted by Galan007
Huh?Anyways,
My points been made -- don't feel like getting any deeper. g_grin
I'm referring to many debates we've had in the past regarding Jaspers and Braddock, where just because stars were involved it was assumed that a universe was created.
You've helped me to demonstrate that thats not necessarily the case, especially if thats not ever stated on panel and the opposite is stated in bios.
Thanks for that. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStormHow did those scans help?
You've helped me to demonstrate that thats not necessarily the case, especially if thats not ever stated on panel and the opposite is stated in bios.
By proving that a reality warper can make a seemingly small space, really, really big?
😂 I thought anyone would've known they could do that. 🙂
