Originally posted by Galan007
How did those scans help?By proving that a reality warper can make a seemingly small space, really, really big?
😂 I thought anyone would've known they could do that. 🙂
You didn't last summer and nor did MM.
I stated it over and over that a reality warp the size of a phone box(from the outside where the normal laws of reality still apply) could on the inside be as big as a city or a galaxy depending on ho wpowerful the reality warper is.
I presented statements from characters and bio entries for example saying Jaspers had just warped the planet. Or that Braddock was just toying with stars in his reality warp as clearly shown. However because stars were involved in both cases all i heard from both of you was nope Jaspers warped the entire universe, nope Braddock created an entire universe.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
These two points at least are far from the truth.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He created a city sized reality warp,
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
which you've hyped up to be he created that whole entire universe.
I clearly said:
Originally posted by Mr MasterHe's also proven to be capable of creating atleast most of a Universe from scratch.
Including all it's Stars, Sound waves ect.
(space/time/matter that depends on his consciousness)....................................................................................
(I'll prove that in a sec yall.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
From within said reality warp Jamie Jamie removed stars and sound.
I challenge you prove that statement.
I challenge to show us where it's stated that Jamie was acting only withIN his warp.
As if Jamie is limited to warping only space/time/matter connected to him. 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What you need to remember is that within a reality warp physics, the rules of space and time don't apply. From outside where such laws are still in place the warp could be the size of a telephone box, from within it could be the size of a country. It wouldn't have to make sense.
Jamie created MOST of that entire Universe,
and Jamie was in full control of that Universe,
not limited to any warp. (that's a fantasy lingering in your mind alone)
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Just because Jamie made the stars within his reality warp fall down like snowflakes,
doesn't mean Jamie created that entire universe.
I challenge you to present evidence that states
those Stars were contained withIN any warp.
I challenge you to prove Jamie created a Universe withIN a city sized warp.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When Jamie stopped his reality tamperings which were maintained with his power, what disappearred, the stars?Ok how about some planets?Just the city Excalibur was fighting Jamie in.
Captain Britain? ...
Correct, who only got to see the City fade,
and who faded himself immediately after that.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Braddock has been greatly overrated here in recent times
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Finally you're getting what i've been telling you for about 2 years now!But yeah, what a breakthrough lol
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I'm referring to many debates we've had in the past regarding Jaspers and Braddock, where just because stars were involved it was assumed that a universe was created.You've helped me to demonstrate that thats not necessarily the case,
especially if thats not ever stated on panel and the opposite is stated in bios.
Hmm ...
We're gonna put that to the test.
And again, for the record yall,
I claimed Jamie created MOST of that Universe from scratch.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
You didn't last summer and nor did MM.
I only agree with Marvel concerning Marvel.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I presented statements from characters and bio entries for example saying Jaspers had just warped the planet.Or that Braddock was just toying with stars in his reality warp as clearly shown.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
However because stars were involved in both cases all i heard from both of you was nope Jaspers warped the entire universe,
nope Braddock created an entire universe.
Who do you think you are dogs?
Wow, the instant you think you've made a point of consequence
you drool in your pants.
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Originally posted by Galan007
How did those scans help?By proving that a reality warper can make a seemingly small space, really, really big?
😂
The PROOF ... as always:
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Here Kitty Pride is able to jump from Earth-616
to This Alternate Reality, (created [i]mostly[?i] by Jamie)
and back to 616,
she can do this using Widget's Dimensional Gate:
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(Excalibur #18 & #19) don't make it clear whether the Jamie in the Other Dimension is real or not.
The World he lives in is certainly an idealized version of what Jamie would consider a paradise -
one where racing drivers are revered as the top celebrities of the Planet.
Until the Second installment we are led to believe this is just another Alternate Reality,
but then we learn that Earth-616's Jamie is manipulating what is happening.
When 616 Jamie goes to sleep, not only does his counterpart vanish,
but so too do the Dirty Angels and the City around them.
This certainly would imply that 616 Jamie Created all of them.
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Next page we learn,
Widget's Dimensional Gate that leads to this Alternate Reality from 616,
has NO Alternate Reality to go to: hm
"Widget's Dimensional Gate didn't work, I'm trapped on Earth"
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Don't tell me ...
that whole Universe was cut off from the Omniverse because Jamie's City disappeared?
Or was it cut off because what made it a relevant Universe was most of it,
in other words ... what Jamie created?
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continues in the next post:
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I guess we should ignore this aswell:
(Phoenix & Meggan linked as one are able to transform into certain beings with powers and all)
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Dazzler's power comes from Sound waves that permeate through the Universe,
Jamie shuts off all the Sound in that Reality:
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Here Jamie makes Havok's own nuclear plasma blast explode the Moon
in Space,
after blasting a hole straight through him:
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Here Jamie actually turns all the STARS in this Universe into snowflakes apparently:
(in order to turn off Havok's power which came from Stellar Energy at the time)
"No more Stars ... means No more Steller Energy"
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It's a rap right there.
Anyone who denies this feat is a hater,
all the true debaters agree on the CLEAR OBVIOUS ON PANEL PROOF!
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And finally .... owned2 ... sorry, had to say it.
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This is Jamie's official Bio from the Officially Marvel sposored site:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/braddockj.htm#counterpart
"As Jamie fell asleep, the one fighting Excalibur,
as well as MUCH of his Reality,
vanished into nothingness"
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I thought you said you presented "Bios" that stated otherwise? 🙂
Well ... bull shit aside ...
EVIDENTLY 616 Jamie Created MUCH of that Alternate Reality.
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I'm not surprised, Kitty couldn't return to that Reality,
that was sufficient On Panel proof for un-biased eyes.
Jamie Created MUCH of that Universe,
but ... Jamie had Total Control of that entire Universe as we saw in the scans
Originally posted by King Kandy
Just one question... couldn't Widgets gate have just not been working?
The Gate simply was not there,
because as Jamie's Marvel bio points out,
"MUCH of that Universe vanished"
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/braddockj.htm#counterpart
(bottom of page) - Jamie's counter-part
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Btw. Nice feat ey,
turining all the Stars in an entire Universe into snowflakes, with a thought.
You know what's even more awesome?
Is that 616 Jamie was empowering that alternate Jamie that did that.
In fact, it was 616 Jamie that created that Jamie just for amusement.
Oh dear.
Another case of you not reading your own “evidence” before you present it.
I don't have to say much to answer that waffle.
If you read the in depth summary of the issue, a few paragraphs up from where you took your quote it says:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/b...htm#counterpart
When the mainstream Jamie goes to sleep, not only does his counterpart vanish, but so to do the Dirty Angels, and the city around them
Within normal reality there are laws and physics in place. A reality warper can either bend the laws around specific individual things or they can create a reality warp, a sphere of influence wherein their will dictates the laws and physics for all things which reside there. You saw this with the Jaspers Warp and Wanda’s reality warp. Even Franklin has created his own reality within a reality (Heroes Reborn Earth) which he carried around as a tennis ball sized object.
The part you quoted says that much of his reality disappeared. Given that on panel the only thing linked to Jamie’s power were his avatar and the city he fought Excalibur in, which in turn were the only things shown on panel to disappear then that pretty much qualifies as his reality. Not that entire universe, but the reality Jamie created. That’s all the marvunapp summary credits him for creating anyway.
Excalibur are still standing on firm ground and they comment on how the avatar and the city has disappeared. Yet you would have us believe that Jamie cut off power from that dimension and the city disappeared, the Earth was left intact, but the rest of the universe around it disappeared? 😕
Marvunapp mentions that Jamie likely created the city and the Dirty Angels but nothing else is mentioned. Can you show me where it’s stated that Jamie created that universe? Show me where on panel Jamie is shown creating that universe. All we see is Jamie pulling off some nice reality warping feats from within another reality, however when he cuts off his flow of power, what disappears? The things created by his power, the city and the Dirty Angels gang.
🙂
Any statements regarding Jamie creating a universe? 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Oh dear.Another case of you not reading your own “evidence” before you present it.
I don't have to say much to answer that waffle.
If you read the in depth summary of the issue, a few paragraphs up from where you took your quote it says:
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/b...htm#counterpart
Within normal reality there are laws and physics in place. A reality warper can either bend the laws around specific individual things or they can create a reality warp, a sphere of influence wherein their will dictates the laws and physics for all things which reside there. You saw this with the Jaspers Warp and Wanda’s reality warp. Even Franklin has created his own reality within a reality (Heroes Reborn Earth) which he carried around as a tennis ball sized object.
The part you quoted says that much of [B]his
reality disappeared. Given that on panel the only thing linked to Jamie’s power were his avatar and the city he fought Excalibur in, which in turn were the only things shown on panel to disappear then that pretty much qualifies as his reality. Not that entire universe, but the reality Jamie created. That’s all the marvunapp summary credits him for creating anyway.Excalibur are still standing on firm ground and they comment on how the avatar and the city has disappeared. Yet you would have us believe that Jamie cut off power from that dimension and the city disappeared, the Earth was left intact, but the rest of the universe around it disappeared? 😕
Marvunapp mentions that Jamie likely created the city and the Dirty Angels but nothing else is mentioned. Can you show me where it’s stated that Jamie created that universe? Show me where on panel Jamie is shown creating that universe. All we see is Jamie pulling off some nice reality warping feats from within another reality, however when he cuts off his flow of power, what disappears? The things created by his power, the city and the Dirty Angels gang. [/B]
