Originally posted by quanchi112
Who hasnt. Anyways, Galactus knew he was coming and fed right before he showed up. Tyrant was kicking his ass. To say High Evolutionary is even close to Tyrant's level is absurd.
Really now?
It seems like you're just disregarding feats. First you claim that Tyrant challenging Galactus is a feat, then I tell you High E has and suddenly it's not a feat anymore 🙂
Originally posted by illadelph12Ok you would have to prove Apoc is capable then of being able to impale Thanos. You cant prove this. Thanos has survived far worse than Apoc. He beats him down with ease.
On panel Drax is not the only character capable of cutting, bludgeoning, or physically harming Thanos. He's simply the only character depicted killing him in such a manner, not the only character capable. It's been proven that other characters can and have physically harmed him, caused him to bleed, cut him, etc. Impalement is the same means of injury. It's simply a puncture wound, and characters other than Drax have been capable of doing so.As I said, not the popular line of reasoning, but feasible, particularly considering there's no evidence to counter the contention.
Again lets just examine the silver bullet theory for a moment. If a regular bullet hits a werewolf does it cause him to bleed? Ok but does it injure him. Now picture a silver bullet oneshotting a werewolf. See the difference. Drax was the silver bullet and while others could indeed make him bleed no one else could tear out his heart. 😉 Plus he was cheapshotted. 😛
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok you would have to prove Apoc is capable then of being able to impale Thanos. You cant prove this. Thanos has survived far worse than Apoc. He beats him down with ease.Again lets just examine the silver bullet theory for a moment. If a regular bullet hits a werewolf does it cause him to bleed? Ok but does it injure him. Now picture a silver bullet oneshotting a werewolf. see the difference. Drax was the silver bullet and while others could indeed make him bleed no one else could tear out his heart. 😉 Plus he was cheapshotted. 😛
Simple, actually.
Thanos has been cut and impaled. Apocalypse has a means to cut and/or impale him.
There's no evidence whatsoever that Drax is the only character capable of impaling him, additionally, on panel evidence clearly shows other characters besides Drax being capable of bludgeoning and cutting him. Moreover, Apocalypse has, on panel, impaled another Eternal, Ikaris, through the chest via a spike applied during a bear hug.
Furthermore, regardless of whether it's Drax removing his heart or another character is inconsequential, the on panel evidence would clearly suggest that characters other than Drax can harm him by these means due to his prior injuries. Impalement is simply a puncture wound, and Thanos's body has been compromised by these means priorly by other characters. There is no evidence that would suggest that if any character other than Drax impaled him he would shrug it off because they are not his "kryptonite", and alternately, there is evidence that clearly depicts other characters without Drax's properties have harmed Thanos, and heart removal is a fatal wound, regardless of the source.
So, as I'll state again, it's not the most popular outcome, but it's feasible, and the evidence to support it exists, regardless of popular opinion.
Originally posted by illadelph12This is full of a good deal of speculation. Who has punctured Thanos other than Drax (who has been stated to be Thanos's Silver Bullet and the only being that could do what he did to the Titan) and fatally harmed him?
There is no evidence that would suggest that if any character other than Drax impaled him he would shrug it off because they are not his "kryptonite", and alternately, there is evidence that clearly depicts other characters without Drax's properties have harmed Thanos, and heart removal is a fatal wound, regardless of the source.So, as I'll state again, it's not the most popular outcome, but it's feasible, and the evidence to support it exists, regardless of popular opinion.
Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos had to freeze him with his gun....
I didn't say he beat him with just his fists. I said he was able to easily hurt and didn't go down to a Thor who was much, much more powerful than Apocalypse.
Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos has never killed the Surfer either...
He beat Surfer bad enough to take him to Death's realm and offer him as a gift. When Death still rejected Thanos, he restored Surfer's life force.
Originally posted by llagrok
Thanos had to freeze him with his gun....Thanos has never killed the Surfer either...
He froze him with his gun afer they had fought for awhile and Thanos said he was tired of wasting his time, or something to that effect.
Thanos killing SS, at least that's what the respect thread says, I never read were this fight happened.
Originally posted by Mindset
He froze him with his gun afer they had fought for awhile and Thanos said he was tired of wasting his time, or something to that effect.Thanos killing SS, at least that's what the respect thread says, I never read were this fight happened.
the ss/thanos fight was cosmic powers unlimited
Thanos was weaker during Infinity War (Gamora fight).
Thanos was slit by that ax. Slit doesn't equate into a full fledged cut through the body.
Thanos was toying with the heroes in IG #4. And either way, he wasn't fazed by Wolverine.
Drax was stated on panel to be Thanos's silver bullet. Highly irrelevant.
Thanos after entering a black hole only needed to be wiped off. It looked like he healed long before they started to clean him (molecular control).
Just wanted to get those out of the way. Carry on. 🙂
Originally posted by illadelph12
[B]Simple, actually.Thanos has been cut and impaled. Apocalypse has a means to cut and/or impale him.
That's true. What does impaling Thanos or cutting into him matter when he's going to shrug it off?
There's no evidence whatsoever that Drax is the only character capable of impaling him, additionally, on panel evidence clearly shows other characters besides Drax being capable of bludgeoning and cutting him.
But Drax has been the only one to kill in that manner and has been stated throughout that comic of Drax's purpose and power. Cutting him is one thing, negating Thanos' regeneration is another, which Drax's new powers allowed him to do it. Heck, it even states by Drax himself that he's Thanos' silver bullet.
Moreover, Apocalypse has, on panel, impaled another Eternal, Ikaris, through the chest via a spike applied during a bear hug.
Ikaris is nowhere comparable to Thanos. Wolverine shoved his claws into Thanos and it didn't do a thing. Ikaris was on his knees when Apocalypse punctured him.
Furthermore, regardless of whether it's Drax removing his heart or another character is inconsequential, the on panel evidence would clearly suggest that characters other than Drax can harm him by these means due to his prior injuries. Impalement is simply a puncture wound, and Thanos's body has been compromised by these means priorly by other characters.
Err, there's evidence that they've cut into him, but no evidence any of it harmed him. They cut into him and what happens? They got a beat down.
There is no evidence that would suggest that if any character other than Drax impaled him he would shrug it off because they are not his "kryptonite", and alternately, there is evidence that clearly depicts other characters without Drax's properties have harmed Thanos, and heart removal is a fatal wound, regardless of the source.
Other characters without Drax's properties have cut him. Wolverine stabbed him in the chest. Nothing happened.
So, as I'll state again, it's not the most popular outcome, but it's feasible, and the evidence to support it exists, regardless of popular opinion.
So we can assume that Apocalypse can just stick his claws into Thanos and pull out his heart and ignore where states that Drax is his silver bullet. People have cut him and he's healed from it. There's been three incarnation of Drax and the only one that managed to do so has been the last one. If it's as easy as sticking your hand into Thanos' body and pulling out his heart - the first two would have succeeded. Drax's first incarnation (the dumb one was the second incarnation) ripped apart a star. His most recent is the most physically weakest. Even assuming all versions are physically equal, the last one possesed powers the others don't have to kill Thanos. Everytime he's reborn, Drax's becomes equipped different to destroy Thanos. Hell, that's his purpose in life.
What does Apocalypse have that the first Drax didn't? Physically the first one ripped apart a star and in a fight with Thanos destroyed a planet. That Drax got beaten up numerous times against Thanos (prepower up Thanos). Did the first Drax lack the appendages that the current Drax have?
Apocalypse isn't doing anything to Thanos. Cutting him? Sure. But how affectively will it be before Thanos' body regenerates? As to date, current Drax has been the only person and only version of Drax capable of killing him in that manner.