Originally posted by Burning thought
w8 a min, define a sin please and where you definition comes from, then add it up to Ryu's religion and actionsfurthermore, take into account hows Akuma going to get within 5 feet of Ryu...lawls unless Ryu attacks and destroys him at close range
Sin is doing something bad. Something you shouldn't.
Now, where i'm from, Killing is bad, excessive force.
Ryu's belief's ? That is irrelevent,
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Sin is doing something bad. Something you shouldn't.Now, where i'm from, Killing is bad, excessive force.
Ryu's belief's ? That is irrelevent,
where your from, exactley
Ryu's belief is irrelevent? not really, if he does not belive in Christianity, then the sins of Christianity are irrelevent, since then his sins are defined by everyone else, if he does not belive any of it however, then he is not shackled by it
the whole move is irrelevent since its not like Akuma is going to use it
Originally posted by Burning thoughtNone of your business
where your from, exactleyRyu's belief is irrelevent? not really, if he does not belive in Christianity, then the sins of Christianity are irrelevent, since then his sins are defined by everyone else, if he does not belive any of it however, then he is not shackled by it
the whole move is irrelevent since its not like Akuma is going to use it
By Definition, sins are entirely rellevent. Just because you don't see it as it as a sin, doesn't mean it is. Lets take Hitler for example.... need i continue?
Originally posted by EvilAngel
None of your businessBy Definition, sins are entirely rellevent. Just because you don't see it as it as a sin, doesn't mean it is. Lets take Hitler for example.... need i continue?
wtf, misread ftw 🙄
then that just depends on who is doing what, a sin is tied to morale values, why should Ryu's morale values be taken as a sin? hitler and a lot of the Germans thought what tehy were doing was correct and purification, in their eyes it was not a sin, it was a purge, exactley my point, glad you brought him up...its completly in eyes of another
Sin is usually a religious term, the religious rules, it can also be moral however, which is my argument above, the morales a being or an entire race of peoples are their own
Originally posted by Burning thought
wtf, misread ftw 🙄then that just depends on who is doing what, a sin is tied to morale values, why should Ryu's morale values be taken as a sin? hitler and a lot of the Germans thought what tehy were doing was correct and purification, in their eyes it was not a sin, it was a purge, exactley my point, glad you brought him up...its completly in eyes of another
Sin is usually a religious term, the religious rules, it can also be moral however, which is my argument above, the morales a being or an entire race of peoples are their own
Well then it would be sin is the eyes of Akuma, it's his ability. So has Ryu commited sins in the eyes of Akuma... umm, yes most likely.
Do't turn this all philosophical to avoid the point this technique can and will work on Ryu, Period.
Originally posted by Burning thought
why would it work if in his world sin is looked on completly diffrent or actions are not looked on as sin, just because Akuma things he has sinned does not mean he hasbut its all irrelevent, as if Akuma is going to touch any of them
Yes of course, an experience fighter who has be training since he was like 5 isn't gonig to land a hit on a ninja... oh wait, that;s kinda screwed up logic you got there
Originally posted by EvilAngel
Yes of course, an experience fighter who has be training since he was like 5 isn't gonig to land a hit on a ninja... oh wait, that;s kinda screwed up logic you got there
no you miss the point, Ryu is unlikely to go melee with Akuma unless Akuma was already incapacitated
Originally posted by Csdabest
But SGS clearly states if someone has a pure spirit then the move will have no effect on them. Ryu Hayabusa has a pure spirit and wont be effected by it. Thats what the move description says. So it wont work on Ryu. Maybe one of the other but not ryu
I thought it said it punishes the targeet for their sins that they had commited ?
Originally posted by Csdabest......but that is all not good enough against these powerhouses....😬
You do realize. That that Ryu hayabusa has shown his own very powerful form of the Hado fire blast. Which seems like it takes less time to charge. Ryubusa has Spirit Energy. Ryubusa has the True Dragon Sword which unlike the Masamune has spirital powers that are unfanthonamable. It the Masamunes weilder. Not the Masamune. It hasnt shown to have any powers wat so ever.
Originally posted by Csdabest
Also i beleive sephiroth didnt hold Holy back with TK. An exploding the party is only assumptions. He didnt so it cant be given. But he deos have good focus.
No, he held Holy with his willpower. But his willpower can do the same as TK. Arguing if what he did was "TK" or "willpower", is nothing more than arguing semantics. They are the same thing(in FFVII's universe).
And "exploding the party" is a good possibility. Holy can travel across continents and kill everything on the planet, in seconds. It's obvious you need a GREAT power to hold it back. Now, imagine if Sephiroth used this same power to crush the party? Or to crush Ryu, Lu Bu and Raziel? They would all die. I mean, you cannot compare them with Holy!
Considering Holy's power, and what Sephiroth's mental power was doing with it, his TK/willpower/mental strength/whatever is INSANE. That's much above anything Ryu, Lu Bu and Raziel ever did.
Um that doesnt prove he would make someone explode. A bullet proof vest has the ability to stop a bullet. That doesn tmake the bullet proof vest able to kill another person. I could have sworn sephiroth was using the Lifestream to stop Holy. I might have to replay. Thing is sephiroth stoping holy can really only beaccess to that situation since Sephiroth didnt have the will power to stop him from getting cut up by Cloud. If his will could stop such things they would have had cloud have pis like haveing a anti sephiroth ray or somehting.
but yeah. my opinion still stands...and i wont look at this thread past this point.
No, it all Sephiroths willpower that had supressed Holy
From the novel
"The Holy she had summoned was being suppressed"
From the Ultimania Omega
"Holy's movement was being held back by the wicked will of Sephiroth"
The power of Sephiroths will/TK/wuteveruwannacallit is capable of doing that to a such a powerful force.