Originally posted by Csdabest
But SGS clearly states if someone has a pure spirit then the move will have no effect on them. Ryu Hayabusa has a pure spirit and wont be effected by it. Thats what the move description says. So it wont work on Ryu. Maybe one of the other but not ryu
Guy's, whether you sin or do not sin is irrelvant. The only way to esacpe SGS is by attaining a certain state of mind during the attack. The attack is not soley determined on your Karma/Sin.
Originally posted by Wandering Flame
Do you really think that was an intentional murder? lol
Right, because we all know that Hayabusa did not see the other train. Even though he jumped ship right before impact? 😬
nah, an invisible raziel just smokes them one by one....for giggles 😐
also about all this holy rubbish, just because its powerful does not neccerily make it heavey or difficult to holy back with a certain power, being power does not equel being difficult to hold neccerily, a nuclear missle can blow up cities, does that mean the small nuclear missle lunaching system is straining under its power..nopes
Originally posted by Burning thought
nah, an invisible raziel just smokes them one by one....for giggles 😐also about all this holy rubbish, just because its powerful does not neccerily make it heavey or difficult to holy back with a certain power, being power does not equel being difficult to hold neccerily, a nuclear missle can blow up cities, does that mean the small nuclear missle lunaching system is straining under its power..nopes
You're comparing a dormant power to a wake one.
The Nuclear bomb isn't trying to detonate.
Holy had been called as was trying to do what it was made for.
Maybe you're right but it's hard for me to think of a worse example
well still, its basically the point, nobody can prove Holys power is what would make it difficult for Sephiroth to stop, your simply judging that because holy is powerful, it must be a great feat to hold it, but thats not always true, and its assumptions from fans who want to push Sephiroth beyond what he is
nope, power does not neccerily= hard to control or tame, it could be not a feat at all easily, especially since Sephiroth is really the only one at the time with powers of Will who would want to stop Holy, we dont know how difficult the thing would be to stop, hell it could be nothing, its only energy afterall, powerful but only energy, not a solid matter object that could be heavier, even if it is powerful
speculation is all that tells you that Holy is both difficult to hold or if its power level has any influnce on this difficulty
Originally posted by Terryc250
Give me an example of "power does not neccerily= hard to control or tame"? No, normal non-bias ppl would tell you a force powerful enough to destroy the world and travel continents in seconds would be hard to TK, usually if its something so powerful its usually powerful enough to break through TK
power does not have to be hard to control, never at all, common sense tells you that power does not equel weight on a TK, electricty for example as a whole has power within it to kill, yet we control it and move it through tiny wires, a damn can hold off enormous amounts of water, its just a thick lump of concrete but its holding something that could devastate whole towns into rubble, look at lightning, we can control it through coils, the things bolt is as hot as the surface of the sun, infact the bolt itself is proof that power held in certain forms can be less devastating, all sephiroth is doing is holding this power like a gun is holding within it the bullet, a virus can be contained in tiny glass tubes, virus' that can kill millions, all power
well first, your mistaken, willpower is what sephiroth is using, sorry but from the creators, no TK is menstioned at all and afaik, maybe not in the whole of FF7, also show me an instance when something powerful enough breaks through TK physically ime just curios, not that its relevent
Originally posted by Burning thought
power does not have to be hard to control, never at all, common sense tells you that power does not equel weight on a TK, electricty for example as a whole has power within it to kill, yet we control it and move it through tiny wires, a damn can hold off enormous amounts of water, its just a thick lump of concrete but its holding something that could devastate whole towns into rubble, look at lightning, we can control it through coils, the things bolt is as hot as the surface of the sun, infact the bolt itself is proof that power held in certain forms can be less devastating, all sephiroth is doing is holding this power like a gun is holding within it the bullet, a virus can be contained in tiny glass tubes, virus' that can kill millions, all powerwell first, your mistaken, willpower is what sephiroth is using, sorry but from the creators, no TK is menstioned at all and afaik, maybe not in the whole of FF7, also show me an instance when something powerful enough breaks through TK physically ime just curios, not that its relevent
We're talking about TK'ing here, electricity doesnt have the power to destroy the planet, and im pretty sure TKing a lightning bolt would be difficult.
Anything can break through TK if its powerful enough, its common knowledge, you can ask your mom that and she'll probably know.
Originally posted by Terryc250
We're talking about TK'ing here, electricity doesnt have the power to destroy the planet, and im pretty sure TKing a lightning bolt would be difficult.Anything can break through TK if its powerful enough, its common knowledge, you can ask your mom that and she'll probably know.
how would you know? no being on the Earth can TK, but all those are good examples of a lot of power and the ability to kill kept in small or ordered things, and you come back at me with a completly ridiculous comment about how difficult it would be to TK one? jeez, yeh let me go outside and w8 for a storm and try my TK, my baby brother is a master, he can hold a nuclear bomb in check 🙄
common knowledge? to whom? show me please..a power level against a force that is simply from the mind, it seems to me only fair enough that it would take a psychic force to break a psychic force, you cant physically break someone mentally when your floating 10 feet away from them
Originally posted by Burning thought
how would you know? no being on the Earth can TK, but all those are good examples of a lot of power and the ability to kill kept in small or ordered things, and you come back at me with a completly ridiculous comment about how difficult it would be to TK one? jeez, yeh let me go outside and w8 for a storm and try my TK, my baby brother is a master, he can hold a nuclear bomb in check 🙄common knowledge? to whom? show me please..a power level against a force that is simply from the mind, it seems to me only fair enough that it would take a psychic force to break a psychic force, you cant physically break someone mentally when your floating 10 feet away from them
It is common knowledge, its been done a ton of times in Marvel, there was a time when Jean Grey tried to hold Hulk at bay, and the Hulk broke free with pure force
Originally posted by Terryc250
The thing is, you compared Holy, to electricity, and then you compared TK to cords, cords are meant for electricity as rubber is resistant to electricity, if you used ur hand for example, what would be harder to hold, a 5 pound ball of steel? Or electricty?It is common knowledge, its been done a ton of times in Marvel, there was a time when Jean Grey tried to hold Hulk at bay, and the Hulk broke free with pure force
the ball but heres the thing, electricity is energy, holy=energy is it not? so its lighter, TK accessable
oh i see, one of those Hulk and marvel things, half the things in marvel break physics anyway, ime talking a fiction that has some serious and credability to it...some game universe or such, i mean god, Hulk broke free just with force lawlz, hulk can also apprently thunderclap dimensions
Originally posted by Burning thought
the ball but heres the thing, electricity is energy, holy=energy is it not? so its lighter, TK accessableoh i see, one of those Hulk and marvel things, half the things in marvel break physics anyway, ime talking a fiction that has some serious and credability to it...some game universe or such, i mean god, Hulk broke free just with force lawlz, hulk can also apprently thunderclap dimensions
TK'ing energy is harder to TK then something solid.. especially something with enough force to destroy the planet.
Originally posted by Terryc250
No he cant, lots of things in fiction breaks physics, characters flying breaks physics.TK'ing energy is harder to TK then something solid.. especially something with enough force to destroy the planet.
yes but marvel has some ridiculous things, they have no credability and nethier does DC, most comics dont because they come up with ridiculous logic that has no logic full stop
as i told you before, the power of the energy, why should this in yur view make a diffrent on how difficult it would be to TK?