Originally posted by Lil Buddy
If they do those efats, msot of the time they are that class.Is Spiderman class 100 from that one feat alone? No. Is WM 100? Yes because he has shown to be on that level before.
Invincible is always being upgraded and how he is 300. What don't you get about strength levels??
I get it plenty, you're being literal again.
Spiderman has lots of feats outside of the 10-20 ton range (whatever he goes by nowadays), doesn't mean that he's outside the 15 (let's say 15) class range.
Hell feat for feat you could argue Spiderman being stronger then 25 ton Cage, does this mean it's true?
Invincible is always being upgraded but still gets SCRAPED by the very bottom of the barrell Viltrumite warrior (all of whom are class 100) thus Class 75 is a legit rank.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
I get it plenty, you're being literal again.Spiderman has lots of feats outside of the 10-20 ton range (whatever he goes by nowadays), doesn't mean that he's outside the 15 (let's say 15) class range.
Hell feat for feat you could argue Spiderman being stronger then 25 ton Cage, does this mean it's true?
Invincible is always being upgraded but still gets SCRAPED by the very bottom of the barrell Viltrumite warrior (all of whom are class 100) thus Class 75 is a legit rank.
Before his downgrade yes he was and its been said MANY times.
What??? His peoples strength is high. They are easily doing feats that prove you otherwise. But no you ignore them like everything else that makes sense.
When has it been said that Spidey's stronger then upgraded Cage? That's fan hearsay, ESPECIALLY given their respective portrayals in New Avengers.
His people's strength has been said to be Class 100 in the DUM DUM DUM handbooks. Even the most bottom of the barrell Adult Viltrumite. You remember the Viltrumite that his dad easily munched, you know, the nub that Invincible was running for his LIFE against? That alone tells you Invincible =/= CL 100.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
When has it been said that Spidey's stronger then upgraded Cage? That's fan hearsay, ESPECIALLY given their respective portrayals in New Avengers.His people's strength has been said to be Class 100 in the DUM DUM DUM handbooks. Even the most bottom of the barrell Adult Viltrumite. You remember the Viltrumite that his dad easily munched, you know, the nub that Invincible was running for his LIFE against? That alone tells you Invincible =/= CL 100.
I didn't say they said hes stronger but the feats and the people in the comics say how strong he is. Maybe he is stronger but its his durability that always has been the winner with him.
ARe you ignoring what happened?? Your like a....Christ I have never seen someone with more stupid beliefs when it comes to comics.
Originally posted by Lil Buddy
I didn't say they said hes stronger but the feats and the people in the comics say how strong he is. Maybe he is stronger but its his durability that always has been the winner with him.ARe you ignoring what happened?? Your like a....Christ I have never seen someone with more stupid beliefs when it comes to comics.
Yeah feats exactly, but in their ACTUAL PORTRAYALS in New Avengers and Civil War who was the bruiser/C-list powerhouse and who was the annoying smack talker?
I'm not ignoring what happened, you're ignoring common sense. Woo-hoo Invincible has a 100+ ton feat under his belt
what mainstay over class 50 doesn't?
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
Yeah feats exactly, but in their ACTUAL PORTRAYALS in New Avengers and Civil War who was the bruiser/C-list powerhouse and who was the annoying smack talker?I'm not ignoring what happened, you're ignoring common sense. Woo-hoo Invincible has a 100+ ton feat under his belt
what mainstay over class 50 doesn't?
That was for the storyline. But other stuff apaprently ahve said otherwise.
Hasn't Cage been upgraded anyway??
Thats right he does and the handbook was always wrong because every time they puts his strength in there he done bigger and better things.
Originally posted by Peek
That was for the storyline. But other stuff apaprently ahve said otherwise.Hasn't Cage been upgraded anyway??
Thats right he does and the handbook was always wrong because every time they puts his strength in there he done bigger and better things.
What other stuff?
The handbook isn't wrong, serious research was actually done to give Invincible an accurate level of power relative to his portrayal in the comics, the reason this was done, moreso then others, was because of fan outcry from the original rating (Class 30).
So what you have is Invincible being a CL 75 arguably CL 85 (if you think that ONE feat is enough to jump him 10 notches in the CL ranking) lifting 300 tons. Goodie.
Originally posted by Papa Smurph
What other stuff?The handbook isn't wrong, serious research was actually done to give Invincible an accurate level of power relative to his portrayal in the comics, the reason this was done, moreso then others, was because of fan outcry from the original rating (Class 30).
So what you have is Invincible being a CL 75 arguably CL 85 (if you think that ONE feat is enough to jump him 10 notches in the CL ranking) lifting 300 tons. Goodie.
It is wrong. By the fact that they do stuff on the level of say class 50 that they do of 25. The handbook says 25 but they have been proven wrong many times.
An example but works the same.