Prep and resources hierarchy

Batman Universal?

No way.

Originally posted by Alfheim
So basically the portal opened in Toronto, they entered our realm in Toronto and they came Toronto because of Talisman but the plan didnt involve Toronto? Im not saying it was Masters intention to just involve Toronto but the fact is that it did.

They didn't come to Toronto, they had to as that's where Talisman's will broke. They could have popped in Moscow if Talisman was there. That's like saying Dr.Doom's plans are merely Latveria schemes because he began the plans in Latveria... that makes no sense. Where the plan begins has no relverance to the grand scheme of the plan. It was meant to save the universe, not Toronto.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Most of the time yes but in Masters case it dindt even get beyond a city. Its not like other villains were they have caused alot more damage and have come close to succeeding for example Dr Doom succesfully got hold of Beyonders power.

Errr..it was said the Ska'r influence was growing and getting past Toronto. The Ska'r were growing stronger by each minute and it was Pathway with the help of Talisman who sent them back to their dimension and sealed it up before the world fell into their control.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
They didn't come to Toronto, they had to as that's where Talisman's will broke. They could have popped in Moscow if Talisman was there. That's like saying Dr.Doom's plans are merely Latveria schemes because he began the plans in Latveria... that makes no sense. Where the plan begins has no relverance to the grand scheme of the plan. It was meant to save the universe, not Toronto.

No its not just the grand scheme of the plan its how far you get. What so were supposed to compare that success level to Dr Doom gaining Beyonders powers or Annilihation wave? The plan was to save the universe but it was stuck to one city.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Errr..it was said the Ska'r influence was growing and getting past Toronto. The Ska'r were growing stronger by each minute and it was Pathway with the help of Talisman who sent them back to their dimension and sealed it up before the world fell into their control.

Er it was getting past Toronto...so in other words it didnt really get past Toronto did it? It was going to but it didnt.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No its not just the grand scheme of the plan its how far you get. What so were supposed to compare that success level to Dr Doom gaining Beyonders powers or Annilihation wave? The plan was to save the universe but it was stuck to one city.

but it wasn't stuck in one city and regardless the Ska'r apparently with just one city halted Magnus plans, "but the coming of duality, the power play of minds of the human ants--that I can see. That I can prevent. I have unleashed the Ska'r and through their malign influence. I will stop you."

He also commented, "but if I cannot avert the larger scale catasptrohe, I can take steps to ensure it stays mine!"

"I am the Master, and this world I have claimed as my own to do with as I see fit. Through a pocket of madness strong enough even to resist your influence" meaning the plan was already working and blocking Magnus.

"The human psi's are buckling under the strain of keeping the worlds from merging. From this moment on I must focus all my enchanted might. Lock mental horns with the Magnus"

So yes the plan was already working and growing stronger by the second.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Er it was getting past Toronto...so in other words it didnt really get past Toronto did it? It was going to but it didnt.

Talisman said their influence passed Toronto, we just don't know how far it got apparently the Ska'r were soon going to overtake Canada.

Brainiac's on the list, right?

I'd like to see Martin Stein in at least the Global catagory, as well.

Reading back I would say the Master feat was a global catagory, but could have developed into more. So leave him as is then.

Multiversal
Mxy (Debateable that he has tech), Alexander Luthor, Braniac, Monarch

Universal
Batman, Lex, Dr Doom, Reed, Annihilus, Galactus, Sinestro, Thanos, Darkseid, Ultron, Adam Warlock, Grandmaster, High Evolutinary

Intergalactic
Tony Starks, Supreme Intelligence, Master Of The Worlds

Global
Nick Fury, Red Skull, Professor Niles Caulder, Doc Magnus, Mr Freeze, The Riddler, Apocalypse, Hank Pym, Vandal Savage, Mark Stein, The Joker, Leader, Mr Sinister, Black Panther

International to street
Kingpin, Bullseye, Punisher, Crossbones, Spiderman, Deathstroke, Kraven The Hunter

Votes

1 Vote for Lex to World from Universal[tjcoady]
1 Vote against Mxy being on the list [Galan007]
1 Vote for Mxy being on the list [Alfheim]
2 Votes against Batman being universal [Peek][stylishsmurph]
2 Votes for Batman being universal [galan007][Alfheim]

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Reading back I would say the Master feat was a global catagory, but could have developed into more. So leave him as is then.

Agreed. 👆

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont care, looking at his intelligence and his resources he could be a universal threat, hes not a villain so hes not inclined to do things that Lex has, not going to argue you about this.

Phoenix is not allowed shes not a prepper. Its a thread for people who use intelligence and resources.

Note

I'll change the list tommorrow but I think we should get some votes on where Batman should be on this hierachy.

Sorry, mr. high horse.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Sorry, mr. high horse.

Ok calm down I got no beef with you. 😐

Vote against Mxy being on the list: [Galan007][King_Mungi]
Votes against Batman being universal [Peek][stylishsmurph][King_Mungi]
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Also don't forget about Shaman and Carcass

Hey Mungi,
Do you think Global is a good place for Stein?

I know he's at least Global, but potentially more, [ie. when he studied the Universe as Elemental-FS].

Thoughts?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Vote against Mxy being on the list: [Galan007][King_Mungi]
Votes against Batman being universal [Peek][stylishsmurph][King_Mungi]
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Also don't forget about Shaman and Carcass

Whos Carcass? I was kinda against putting Strange and Shaman because alot of their power comes from magic not all of it though...well what do you think?

Originally posted by Galan007
Hey Mungi,
Do you think Global is a good place for Stein?

I know he's at least Global, but potentially more, [ie. when he studied the Universe as Elemental-FS].

Thoughts?

Good question, Stein really hasn't done much in prep so it's kinda hard to say. I would say most definetly he is global, but like you said he has the potential, but as of yet hasn't fully shown it. I would put money he is more then global, but as of right now it's speculation.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Whos Carcass?

Carcass

Originally posted by King_Mungi

"The future of this and many other realities is in dire perial"

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight125-10.jpg

"There it has begun a process known as the unmasking; the final dissolution of reality into the chaos which it has sprung! Unless it is stopped it will spread like a virus through the spirit worlds and into this reality. Nothing will be spared.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight125-12.jpg

“The fate of all reality rests on his actions!”

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight126-0203.jpg

“as the unmasking spreads from the lands of the dead through all the known spirit worlds and come into your home dimension and all order becomes glorious chaos

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight126-10.jpg

Originally posted by Alfheim

I was kinda against putting Strange and Shaman because alot of their power comes from magic not all of it though...well what do you think?

I agree, but Shaman is a tad different then Strange as he literally can pull items out of nowhere and use them for whatever purpose. As noted he has access to the Void

Marvel Age #2
John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world."

Ok where should Shaman go on the list then....i dunno man Carcass doesnt look like a prepper to me.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok where should Shaman go on the list then....i dunno man Carcass doesnt look like a prepper to me.

Shaman: Not sure

Carcass: Well he plan did take over the Land of the Dead and he created the Unmasking which was about to destroy all of reality.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shaman: Not sure

Sounds kinda Global.

Originally posted by King_Mungi

Carcass: Well he plan did take over the Land of the Dead and he created the Unmasking which was about to destroy all of reality.

Yyyyyeah but he has got reality warping powers.....

Originally posted by Alfheim
Sounds kinda Global.

Could be, but the Void is a universal threat

Originally posted by Alfheim

Yyyyyeah but he has got reality warping powers.....

Yes and no, all we know is he warped the Land of the Dead, which Shaman did as well.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Could be, but the Void is a universal threat

Yes and no, all we know is he warped the Land of the Dead, which Shaman did as well.

....my head hurts.... 😂

Anyway im thinking of putting Shaman on Global but im a bit skeptical on putting carcass in, if you insist I can put it to a vote i'll probably add them tommorrow or later today.

Eventhough the void is a universal threat that still doesnt neccesarily make him one..its a bit like Master and his Skar. Potentially it could have been multiversal but it wasnt. Obvoulsy its not clear cut though.

Originally posted by Alfheim
....my head hurts.... 😂

Anyway im thinking of putting Shaman on Global but im a bit skeptical on putting carcass in, if you insist I can put it to a vote i'll probably add them tommorrow or later today.

Shaman at global is fine, and put Carcass in the vote and see what people think