Prep and resources hierarchy

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Omega= debatable. An exploding planet killed him. Not multiversal prep feat.
IB= That had to do with the location. Nothing Thanos did. Not a feat.
Grandmaster= He's an idiot. And beating him is sure as hell not a multiversal feat.
Hunger= A few nukes. NOT multiversal.

Those were my examples of Thanos beating foes that are skyfather or above without using a cosmic cube, IG, or HOTI.
You wanted examples of that remember? 🙄

I didnt say that made him multiversal. His Prep and smarts that made him a god 3X times is what makes him multiversal.

What has DS done? Manipulate the Greek and roman pantheons into splitting their power. Stop the Godwave powered Ares. Open the Source Wall. Masterminding everything in Countdown. Orchestrate his own release from the Source Wall, twice. Successfully stole a piece of the Anti-life entity, now revealed to be the dark side of the Source. Was critical in the destruction of the Anti-Monitor. Killed off countless pantheons. Stuck Yuga Khan in the Source Wall, twice. Crushed an assault by the GLC and forced the Guardians to sue for peace.

Universal Threat

Does anyone else agree that there is no way in hell the Riddler should be Global level.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Omega= debatable. An exploding planet killed him. Not multiversal prep feat.
IB= That had to do with the location. Nothing Thanos did. Not a feat.
Grandmaster= He's an idiot. And beating him is sure as hell not a multiversal feat.
Hunger= A few nukes. NOT multiversal.

What has DS done? Manipulate the Greek and roman pantheons into splitting their power. Stop the Godwave powered Ares. Open the Source Wall. Masterminding everything in Countdown. Orchestrate his own release from the Source Wall, twice. Successfully stole a piece of the Anti-life entity, now revealed to be the dark side of the Source. Was critical in the destruction of the Anti-Monitor. Killed off countless pantheons. Stuck Yuga Khan in the Source Wall, twice. Crushed an assault by the GLC and forced the Guardians to sue for peace.

And co-sign Lucifer for multiversal.

This alone should be enough. I agree that Darkseid should stay at Multiversal.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Omega= debatable. An exploding planet killed him. Not multiversal prep feat.
IB= That had to do with the location. Nothing Thanos did. Not a feat.
Grandmaster= He's an idiot. And beating him is sure as hell not a multiversal feat.
Hunger= A few nukes. NOT multiversal.

Darkseid should be multiversal if he really orchestrated Countdown. And yes, beating high powered dudes with less equipment means better at prep -barring the Hunger I don't see anything in Thanos being multiversal.

I think that the terms multiversal/universal are indeed misleading, mainstream comic characters of Marvel rarely interact with the multiverse, while DC has done it for a few years already. Another of those things that point toward how much higher is the power level at DC.

Anyhow, I cannot think of anyone short of Reed and Classic Strange that really deserve the "multiversal" title in Marvel.

don't forget Alexander Luthor Jr. THe guy orchestrated the Infinite Crisis.

Originally posted by batdude123
Alexander Luthor?

You're joking, right?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Priest, go back and read something called [b]Infinite Crisis.

Btw, the Source apparently claimed partial credit for IC in the latest DOTNG. [/B]

Originally posted by Bentley
Darkseid should be multiversal if he really orchestrated Countdown. And yes, beating high powered dudes with less equipment means better at prep -barring the Hunger I don't see anything in Thanos being multiversal.

We will see in the end of countdown if DS is multiversal. As of now lets give him the benifit of the doubt and say he is multiV.
Thanos is multiversal because he has actually been multiversal a couple times. The HOTI & IG were gained by thanos by his smarts and prep. That was this thread is about.

Since the Squirrel Girl comics are canon, even a Thanos clone is multiversal. It states that on panel 🙂

I think that the terms multiversal/universal are indeed misleading, mainstream comic characters of Marvel rarely interact with the multiverse, while DC has done it for a few years already. Another of those things that point toward how much higher is the power level at DC.

Irrelevant statement 😐

As I see it DC Earth > Marvel Earth, DC Cosmics < Marvel Cosmics.

Anyhow, I cannot think of anyone short of Reed and Classic Strange that really deserve the "multiversal" title in Marvel.

🙄

Originally posted by Peek
No offense but can someone else be in charge. Maybe Batdude or something.

What so you wanna start trouble here as well? So in other words because I give the majority the vote it should be moved? 🤨

Originally posted by King Kandy
So basically you're dismissing all debate on the subject based on "people voted for it"?

Basically yes. 😐 Im sick of the arguing in the vs forum I just wanna do something where I dont even have to debate. Hell even if you want Howard The Duck at multiversal if he gets enough votes hes going down. 😐

At any rate its a matter of opinion, you can just come along and say there wrong when there are 6 votes to 3. 🤨

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Honestly the names for the levels are really misleading. Perhaps it should be by Something else like numbers. 1-10 always has its merits.

I dunno man another posted didnt have a problem with it. *shrug* I'll try to put it to a vote next week or something.

Originally posted by King Kandy
BTW, Adam Warlock has always been considered Thanos's intellectual equal, so I don't see why he's a level below Thanos.

Is that a vote?

Originally posted by tjcoady
Does anyone else agree that there is no way in hell the Riddler should be Global level.

Bro did you see that I moved Riddler down to Global. I even wrote it in bolded letters. 😬

Originally posted by Superherovandal
don't forget Alexander Luthor Jr. THe guy orchestrated the Infinite Crisis.

Hes on the list.

Originally posted by Val
What? 😐

Hal had been prepping for Zero Hour since he absorbed the battery. It's easily as good a prep feat as Monarch is doing now or was doing. The whole reason I brought it up is because it's exactly parallel. Two guys of average intelligence with a lot power.

Well ok then. So how did he charge himself, I mean I would have thought since he already was a GL he would already have access to the battery, so its like a no-brainer. Obvoulsy I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Priest
read it wrong, i was thinking Lex.

Well not sure what your refering to but Lex was never above Thanos and Doom, in the same category though.

magus for multiversal

Multiversal (Many universes)
Alexander Luthor, Braniac, Monarch, Henry Bendix, Metron, Magus, Reed Richards, Thanos, Darkseid, Lucifer

Universal( The whole universe, not just the major races but includes abstracts)
Batman, Lex Luthor, Dr Doom, Reed, Annihilus, Galactus, Sinestro, Darkseid, Ultron, Adam Warlock, Grandmaster, High Evolutinary, Ray Palmer

Intergalactic (Threat to Skrull, Kree, Shi'ar and other races)
Tony Starks, Supreme Intelligence, Master Of The World

Global
Nick Fury, Red Skull, Professor Niles Caulder, Doc Magnus, Mr Freeze, Apocalypse, Hank Pym, Vandal Savage, Mark Stein, The Joker, Leader, Mr Sinister, Black Panther, Shaman, Mister Terrific, Madison Jeffries, Ra's Al Ghul

International to street
Kingpin, Bullseye, Punisher, Crossbones, Spiderman, Deathstroke, Kraven The Hunter, The Riddler

Votes

2 votes for Reed to multiversal [Bentley][Mr Master]
1 vote for Lex to World from Universal[tjcoady]
1 vote for Lex to remain at Universal [Superherovandal]
2 votes for Lex being moved to Intergalactic [TricksterPriest][Peek]
3 votes for Magus to multiversal [King Kandy][Inhuman][Galan007]
1 vote for Magus to universal [LORD B]
2 votes for Darkseid down to multiversal [StylishSmurph][Inhuman]
3 votes for Darkseid staying at multiversal [TricksterPriest][batdude123][Bentley]
2 votes for moving down Annihilus [manorastroman] [Alfheim]
1 vote against Reed being multiversal [batdude 123]
2 votes for Lucifer being multiversal[TricksterPriest][superherovandal]

Changes

Mxy off the list 2 votes to 1
Batman moved to Global to Universal 6 votes to 3
Magus added to the list at multiversal 3 votes
Reed enters list at multiversal 2 votes
The Riddler down from Global to International to street 2 votes to 0
Lex Luther moved to intergalactic
Lucifer added to the list at multiversal 2 votes

I vote Mxy on the list.

Bump.

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Originally posted by batdude123

Really now? Outside of alternate versions of Reed Richards, what universal threat has he prepped for with his own technology?

As for Universal feats, these feats are beyond that if you ask me.

Reed turned Galactus into a human being with his tech,
Galactus' power was literally sucked out of him and left drifting in space.

Reed (within a span of seconds) manipulated the data index of the Time Variance Authority,
the TVA operates on an Omniversal scale, literally,
they can repair or erase entire Timelines across the Omniverse.

Reed's mind is so great,
that it was used by the AE to Re-Create the entire Marvel Reality and all it's history.
Reed's mind literally brought balance to all of Marvel.
Reed is even responsible for granting himself and the rest of the FF their powers,
that's right, it was Reed who manipulated the cosmic rays that empowered them.

This is all 616 Reed, and all canon.

Originally posted by Mr Master
First, those alternate versions are < 616 Reed.

As for Universal feats, these feats are beyond that if you ask me.

Reed turned Galactus into a human being with his tech,
Galactus' power was literally sucked out of him and left drifting in space.

Reed (within a span of seconds) manipulated the data index of the Time Variance Authority,
the TVA operates on an Omniversal scale, literally,
they can repair or erase entire Timelines across the Omniverse.

Reed's mind is so great,
that it was used by the AE to Re-Create the entire Marvel Reality and all it's history.
Reed's [B]mind literally brought balance to all of Marvel.
Reed is even responsible for granting himself and the rest of the FF their powers,
that's right, it was Reed who manipulated the cosmic rays that empowered them.

This is all 616 Reed, and all canon. [/B]

While I most certainly agree with what you're saying, your Time Variance Authority feats are kinda pointless. She-Hulk has done comparably things to them. Every time the TVA is shown, they're almost ridiculous in their incompetence. The fact that it took Reed seconds to manipulate their system is almost an anti-feat.

Originally posted by tjcoady
While I most certainly agree with what you're saying, your Time Variance Authority feats are kinda pointless. She-Hulk has done comparably things to them. Every time the TVA is shown, they're almost ridiculous in their incompetence. The fact that it took Reed seconds to manipulate their system is almost an anti-feat.

That clinches it.

*gets on bended knee*

Tj,I know we haven't known eachother that long,but i've noticed u on the forum and have found that you are simply an amazing person....

Tjcoady,Will you marry me?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
That clinches it.

*gets on bended knee*

Tj,I know we haven't known eachother that long,but i've noticed u on the forum and have found that you are simply an amazing person....

Tjcoady,Will you marry me?

Yes. Ceremony should be held in summer. Everyone on KMC is of course, invited.

Sadly, as I don't live in San Fransisco and the California Supreme Court ruling hasn't come down yet, pretty sure that it'd be a little illegal.

Kang for universal. How? Avengers Forever.