National Health Care Plan

Started by Bardock424 pages
Originally posted by Devil King
what use would a totally impotent government have?

Well, it would have the specific uses assigned to them, without the vast bureucracy, that lobbyists can take advantage of. There would of course have to be safety measures. I don't see the advantage of a Socialiced system against a free one at all though. What system are you supporting anyways?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I am not sure why you think a free market means that there are no regulations in place, but apparently that seems to be your problem with it. Well, maybe it will help you to know that in most free marekt theories I am aware of and certainly in the one I am proposing, the companies can't run amok, there would be laws protecting the voluntary exchange, there would be laws against fraug, there'd be anti trust laws and there even be environmental laws. Free market does not equate to the companies can do what the **** they want. So, if that's your only real concern about that, I hope that helped you.

But the thing is that companies screw people much less over than they would like to belive, WalMart offering you a suit for 10 bucks is not them screwing you over in any way. There's no one that forces you to buy it and it might even be extreme shit quality (thoug, in my experience, WalmArt doesn't even have particularly shitty products).

I am confused now, well, for now I'd like to make those two points, if I totally disregarded something in your post (which is likely, cause it confused me), please tell me, I'll try to respond.

A free market doesn't equate to running amok, reduced government can; and that seems to be what Ron Paul wants.

Rather than telling me what I should get you to answer, why don't you let me know how I confused you.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, it would have the specific uses assigned to them, without the vast bureucracy, that lobbyists can take advantage of. There would of course have to be safety measures. I don't see the advantage of a Socialiced system against a free one at all though. What system are you supporting anyways?

The vast bureaucracy? You mean the 3 branches of government as laid out by the constitution? Because it's the congressmen and the senators and the president that are fed by lobbyists. (unnlss you want to get into the 4th branch of government, which is the military industrial complex.)

Originally posted by Devil King
3 branches of government

correction: 4

...you forgot the new dick cheney branch/

Originally posted by Devil King
The vast bureaucracy? You mean the 3 branches of government as laid out by the constitution? Because it's the congressmen and the senators and the president that are fed by lobbyists. (unnlss you want to get into the 4th branch of government, which is the military industrial complex.)

I don't believe he's referring to the branches of government but rather the departments in government.

Originally posted by Kram3r
I don't believe he's referring to the branches of government but rather the departments in government.

We see lobbyists leaving the offices of senators and governors and congressmen, not cubicles at the IRS.

Originally posted by Devil King
We see lobbyists leaving the offices of senators and governors and congressmen, not cubicles at the IRS.

Yeah, I miss read.