The Bible: Archaelogical Finds

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Please don't start. That's not what's happening here.

DK makes a habit of directly antagonizing people. You can't deny that, and if you do, then you're blind. He can easily make his same points, without constantly insulting everyone he debates with. He makes it into a personal issue, and then when you comment on how personal and serious he makes the issue to be, he denies it.

He has no place calling anyone disrespectful or inappropriate when his own attitude on this forum blows.

Way to avoid the point.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
then go love him in a corner

Who ? DK ? **** no

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Who ? DK ? **** no

Originally posted by Robtard
Way to avoid the point.

You have no point. If some idiot tells me that gay sex is unhealthy, I can debate with them without being a jurk off about it.

Originally posted by chickenlover98
dont fight the gay buttsecks

I've had my fair share, thank you

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Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I've had my fair share, thank you

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Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
You have no point. If some idiot tells me that gay sex is unhealthy, I can debate with them without being a jurk off about it.

Like I said, "way to avoid the point"; the point being I'd make unfounded claims, to support my views as being superior to yours. Understand now?

This thread is getting better by the minute. 💃

Considering you've dedicated yourself to just posting on how stupid this thread is, why bother contributing at all?

Like I said, you can easily end it and make Devil King eat crow by substantiating your claims, if you have already, as you've said, simply quote yourself, rewrite it or post a direct link.

First, I would like to say that your post was much much better. No just quality but you weren't a jerk in it either. I apologize for being a dick to you earlier. I did explain why and I think you got my point and I genuinely appreciate that. You gave a little so I will give a little.

Originally posted by Devil King
In regards to this specific question? Yeah, you claiming you were arrogant. In regards to the thread, it has something to do with all this:

This is where you injected yourself into the conversation. All your other posts were simple interaction, before this point. I asked how you were so good at telling he was being truthful; to which you replied by asking how I knew he was lying.

Well, I can assume it because he hasn't backed it up, which he could easily do, but he is saying I have inspired him not to trust anyone and you're saying he seems to know what he's talking about, so it must be true. (In turn, ignoring everything I have said about it up to this point in teh argument.)

Well, I can't respond to the above because my response doesn't fit right until later.

Originally posted by Devil King
Then why imply that it is so easy and obvious? Remember, "I don't know why DK doesn't believe him."?

He sounds consistently legit. You and I both know that that is hard to fake on the internet. One would make a blunder eventually. My above statement is not exactly what you think it is. I thought that after all the conversations you and he had, you would have believed him by now because it looked like he more than satisfied your quest for truth on the matter. You obviously did not get the complete truth you were looking for so your "jury" is still out on the "decision". (Lest you misinterpret my quotation marks, let me explain. I put them there because they are the perfect metaphor for this situation...it is not passive aggressive sarcasm.)

Originally posted by Devil King
Would Queeq like to say once and for all that he is NOT a subscriber to the bible being the divine word of god? He can settle it, and I'll have to eat my words. And if he believes in the god of the bible, he is a creationist. And like I said, if a person wants to pretend that Intelligent Design isn't creationist propoganda, he's full of shit.

I would hope that he would be able to view the data as objective as possible IF he was a believer in the presence of the divine relative to the bible.

and to your second point...

I believe that there is a God who created the universe slowly over billions of years. I believe that God created humanity through evolution...and not an instant "poof!" from dust. In fact, let me take a step further...

I don't believe God intervenes very often with humanity and that He created the entire universe and humanity all at once.

He did not have to do anything right after He created the universe because in it already was the perfectly prepared design for humanity that would eventually come of the universe's creation. He did ONE thing at the beginning and that is all He had to do because His intelligence is so developed. He wasn't on the side lines creating it step by step...it was an instant of perfect brilliance until humanities inception. I could keep going on and on, but you get the picture, right?

Originally posted by Devil King
But, he, again, won't address it; opting for crying abut how I made him distrustful of the forums.

I thought he had closed the book already on two of them and one you couldn't find enough information on? I keep reading from your posts that two of them are DEFINITELY not his and he keeps saying that you fail because you don't see something?

Originally posted by Devil King
But, if you believe that he directed those films, then maybe you should sit down and watch them, or look them up. Each and every one of them are presented as clearly furthering the various concepts set forth by the bible. One addresses the Shroud of Turin being a legitimate relic, proving the divinity of Jesus; the next is literally called A Biblical Quest; and the third is about Goliath and David.

So when I claimed that you were defending him because you agree with him abou the existence of god, I based it off of this"

HOLY SHIT!!! Now that totally makes sense why you were accusing me of that. I did not know that and I didn't think that that was the significant factor behind your accusation. I literally thought you were pulling things out of your ass. Now that I know more about the content of the films, I can understand your motives behind your accusation. Can you now see why I thought you were making stuff up for the sake of being right? You still are not correct with your assumption, but now I know that you weren't fabricating just to be right.

But what were his motives with his work on those films? Was he doing to try and validate the divine or was he doing it to validate the historical significance of the bible? If it was the latter, then there should be nothing wrong with his interest in a directing collaborative role on these films. His motives will validate or invalidate his objectivity, won't they? Of course, he could say what we want to hear...but at that point, we just have to trust him.

Originally posted by Devil King
When I asked you why you were a mormon if you were sooo close to being an atheist, you said:

That's not on the verge of atheism, neither is it [b]not implying you sit around having conversations with a mythical super being that lives in the sky. (Which, correct me if I'm worng, but you said you didn't say you'd said) [/B]

No, it is close to atheism. Even AFTER I "heard" the answer to my prayer, I still doubted it and rationalized it with plenty of atheistic logic. Enough to satisfy myself completely. I have turned over the idea of atheism so many times in the past. I even rationalized with science that there is no need for a Creator for the universe to exist. (It was a very complicated extension of why black holes evaporate.)

I do not have conversations with God hardly ever. I certainly do say prayers...but a conversation implies a two way communication, doesn't it? I have prayed for heavenly messengers and did not get them. I have prayed for all sorts of direct signs and have not received them. Can you see why I have tossed the idea of atheism around?

Because you were real nice in you post to me, I told you a lot more about personal things. "You gave a little so I will give a little."

Did I miss a point of yours that you wanted me to cover? If so, name it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Considering you've dedicated yourself to just posting on how stupid this thread is, why bother contributing at all?

Like I said, you can easily end it and make Devil King eat crow by substantiating your claims, if you have already, as you've said, simply quote yourself, rewrite it or post a direct link.

Point is, two of them are rather old, like some 10 years ago or more. Internet was not hot then. The only way I can substantiate it in a satisfactory way (maybe, although I doubt it) is to let him come here, show him the films and/or scripts and the credits. All on glorious VHS.

See, internet is not the source of all knowledge, as some of you may think. Ask the production companies and you'll get a more truthful answer. But again, it goes waaaay to far. That kind of methodology is more fitting in a court case. But even there one is innocent until proven guilty.

I just find it strange that an unsubstantiated accusation seems to get such following, while DK's incessant twisting, misquoting and putting words in people's mouths (and not just with me, several people complained about that) is considered normal and can count on support for his accusational quest. But I guess that's just me again.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Please don't start. That's not what's happening here.

It's pretty much exactly what's happening here. You flip your wig and talk about giving Jesus head and loving every drop of his cum, every time someone says the bible clearly states that homosexuality is wrong. We could be talking about cloning shower curtains and you'd make it about gay sex or what a cock-whore you are.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
DK makes a habit of directly antagonizing people. You can't deny that, and if you do, then you're blind. He can easily make his same points, without constantly insulting everyone he debates with. He makes it into a personal issue, and then when you comment on how personal and serious he makes the issue to be, he denies it.

He has no place calling anyone disrespectful or inappropriate when his own attitude on this forum blows.

That's the pot calling the kettle black, don't you think? I don't antagonize most people, maybe you, but not most people.

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:droolio:

I haven't called anyone disrespectful or inappropriate, except you. And don't forget ignorant, attention-whore and irritating.

Originally posted by dadudemon
First, I would like to say that your post was much much better.

The post was no harder or easier to understand than were 99% of my others. One post confused you and you want to act like I've been typing with my toes for the last 17 pages; it's a weak argument for why I'm wrong.

Originally posted by queeq
Point is, two of them are rather old, like some 10 years ago or more. Internet was not hot then. The only way I can substantiate it in a satisfactory way (maybe, although I doubt it) is to let him come here, show him the films and/or scripts and the credits. All on glorious VHS.[/quote

You made the claim, you come here. And the further point is, that you claimed to have directed all three biblical documentaries, yet refuse to admit to being a believer in the validity of the bible as the word of god. As you said, this is because "I wouldn't care anyway", or "my trust in this forum is ruined by DK".

[QUOTE=10216918]Originally posted by queeq
I just find it strange that an unsubstantiated accusation seems to get such following, while DK's incessant twisting, misquoting and putting words in people's mouths (and not just with me, several people complained about that) is considered normal and can count on support for his accusational quest. But I guess that's just me again.

Never misquoted you.

Never put words in your mouth that you hadn't already claimed, directly or indirectly.

This thread has NEVER been about history

"Several people" include yourself and Dadudemon, both claims are untrue.

I started no "accusational quest". You claimed to have the credentials to address the question at hand with more credibility than the next poster, I simply asked that you validate your own claims. You "twisted" this thread into a straight forward historical question; it is not and was never intended to be.

Let's not forget how you managed to twist being a documentray film maker into being an archaeologist, and Dadudemon is eating it up. At one point, I totally ignored the lack of proof for your claims and I asked you to post a picture from your long history of adventures through out the middle east, but you won't. In fact, I've never seen you post a picture, period. Everyone else involved in this argument has, but you won't; and I don't know if that's because you think these tween girls you flirt with won't talk to you anymore, or becuase the pictures don't exist. So you've either visited the Pyramids and the Holy Land and never once had the presence of mind to snap a shot of yourself or you're lying.

Originally posted by queeq
Point is, two of them are rather old, like some 10 years ago or more. Internet was not hot then. The only way I can substantiate it in a satisfactory way (maybe, although I doubt it) is to let him come here, show him the films and/or scripts and the credits. All on glorious VHS.

See, Internet is not the source of all knowledge, as some of you may think. Ask the production companies and you'll get a more truthful answer. But again, it goes waaaay to far. That kind of methodology is more fitting in a court case. But even there one is innocent until proven guilty.

I just find it strange that an unsubstantiated accusation seems to get such following, while DK's incessant twisting, misquoting and putting words in people's mouths (and not just with me, several people complained about that) is considered normal and can count on support for his accusational quest. But I guess that's just me again.

To the contrary, the Internet is just about the source of all knowledge. Tens or even twenty years isn't all that long for a film, certainly, the directors name can be found on-line.

If you had just mentioned that you directed such and such films casually and not used it to make your view a view of being professional or semiprofessional, I doubt anyone would ask you to substantiate it. I had initially asked you to name the films, as I am an avid documentary viewer and I was/am genuinely curious; as you can see, I have watched two; possibly three of the ones you've named.

You did use your documentary making background to support your claim in a debate though, so, be willing to substantiate that claim. Inimalist pointed out that you asked him for proof, when he claimed something in a debate, only fair you do the same.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I dunno, I thought about staying out of this one . . .

You should have done more than thought about it.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
. . . but from personal KMC experience, it seems Devil King likes to antagonize people and call them out on "being fake" as if any of us have to prove anything to him.

He also seems like an extremely angry person. Could just be a misunderstanding on my part.

DK...., why don't you chill out ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
DK makes a habit of directly antagonizing people. You can't deny that, and if you do, then you're blind. He can easily make his same points, without constantly insulting everyone he debates with. He makes it into a personal issue, and then when you comment on how personal and serious he makes the issue to be, he denies it.

He has no place calling anyone disrespectful or inappropriate when his own attitude on this forum blows.

If that is not the pot calling the kettle black:

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Did you lose your virginity yet ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Suck my Dick

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Are you stupid ?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Jesus cums in my mouth droolio

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I love Meat droolio

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
cry

[b]BOOO HOOOOOO

NOOOO

I CANT HANDLE THE TROOOOOFFFFFF

IM GONNA BURN IN HELL CUZ IM GAYYY

BOOO HOOOOO

BOOOO HOOOOOO [/B]

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
These are my questions in life:

1) How can I make a billion dollars really quick ?

2) How can I lengthen the span of Orgasm ?

3) How can I experience multiple orgasm without my penis getting too sore ?

4) How can I grow taller ?

5) How can I get cheap, but effective Nipple enlargement ? (I already have big brown nipples, but I want them bigger. I have a big nipple fetish).

6) How can I flatten my stomach without losing my hott sexxy bubble ass ?

I mean these are just some of the Life Questions I have. The Bible doesn't answer these.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
You like anal sex, don't you ?

How does it feel to be a hypocrite and a troll?

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
Please don't start.

Take your own advice.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
That's not what's happening here.

Actually, that is exactly what is happening here.

Originally posted by Devil King
Never misquoted you.

Never put words in your mouth that you hadn't already claimed, directly or indirectly.

Never misquoted me???

Remember this? My Original quote:

Originally posted by queeq
I will yet stress again, I NEVER EVER made any claims that the Bible is reliable because it's called the Word of God, or that'the stories in the Bible are true because they talk about God. This label, my friend, is what you try to stick on me.

Your version:

Originally posted by Devil King
[QUOTE=10163132]Originally posted by queeq
I NEVER EVER made any claims that the Bible is reliable

Not only does my post make it clear you force statements upon me or put words in my mouth, it also shows you miquoting me intentionally. That, my friend, makes you an official liar.

For everyone who doesn't believe me, read pages 4 and 5 of this thread and it becomes clear to everyone how two-faced DK is. And mind you, this was long before the whole documentary business got started.

Originally posted by queeq
Never misquoted me???

Remember this? My Original quote:

Your version:

Not only does my post make it clear you force statements upon me or put words in my mouth, it also shows you miquoting me intentionally. That, my friend, makes you an official liar.

For everyone who doesn't believe me, read pages 4 and 5 of this thread and it becomes clear to everyone how two-faced DK is.

And this is why I asked you to state, once and for all, that you were not a subscriber to the divine nature of the bible, or that it implied the intervention of an all powerful god. You refused.

Originally posted by Devil King
Never put words in your mouth that you hadn't already claimed, directly or indirectly.

You wouldn't want to address anything else in my post, would you?

Originally posted by queeq
This thread is getting better by the minute. 💃

And we've gone down from there

Originally posted by Devil King
The post was no harder or easier to understand than were 99% of my others. One post confused you and you want to act like I've been typing with my toes for the last 17 pages; it's a weak argument for why I'm wrong.

It was never an argument for "why [you're] wrong". I never said ALL your posts were not understandable either. I was simply being a dick to be a dick because you were being a dick when I was originally addressing this subject with respect. Yes, one post was wack and I did get the general points but I wanted you to correct it so I didn't screw up what I was going to say.

I made my comment to let you know that I appreciated the extra work you put into that post because I genuinely appreciated it. You, instead, interpreted it in a negative way. Dude, pregnant women do that too!!! 😆 😆 😆 Sorry man, I had to say that....you have no idea what its like trying to communicate with a pregnant woman.

I can understand your skepticism of my intentions and went with a negative interpretation on my motives. I am a sneaky bastard with hidden meanings and words traps...what can I say? I try to keep myself entertained on teh interwebz.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
You should have done more than thought about it.

If that is not the pot calling the kettle black:

How does it feel to be a hypocrite and a troll?

Take your own advice.

Actually, that is exactly what is happening here.

I don't make personal attacks on people, unless they have made personal attacks on me. I have never insulted you or your angry boyfreind on your looks, personality, etc. You both have towards me.

Not that I care...I forgive it...I don't care what some idiots from other states think of me online.

But my point is, I never make personal attacks on someone, unless I'm pushed to that point. You and DK make a frenzy out of it.

My jesus jokes are not attacking anyone. So you fail there 👇

Originally posted by dadudemon
I made my comment to let you know that I appreciated the extra work you put into that post

I put no extra effort into the post. You simply want to imply I did because you want to antagonize me into saying I made an effort to communicate with you or made an effort to please you.

No, I don't know what it's like to communicate with a pregnant woman. The beautiful part of that is that when I leave, they're someone else's problem. But, I'm not missing the underlying jist of your slight. My hormones have nothing to do with the dispute. (being the second time you've compared me to a woman, and followed it up with an "I'm just joking", and laughing at how clever you think you are.)

And if you don't want to deal with a pegnant woman, I doubt the abortion clinic is that far away.

Originally posted by SpearofDestiny
I don't make personal attacks on people, unless they have made personal attacks on me. I have never insulted you or your angry boyfreind on your looks, personality, etc. You both have towards me.

Not that I care...I forgive it...I don't care what some idiots from other states think of me online.

But my point is, I never make personal attacks on someone, unless I'm pushed to that point. You and DK make a frenzy out of it.

My jesus jokes are not attacking anyone. So you fail there 👇

He and I are no longer dating one another.

As far as I'm concerned, your existence is a personal attack on every one here.

I also do not recall anyone asking for your forgiveness.